Should we send Smith to the Draft

[MYOB]

Pretty simple question. If Geelong don't offer more than pick 17 (20) should we send Smith to the draft.

 

[54Bulldog16]

Would love to send a message, but no, it would only set us back. Effectively lose Smith and a first round pick in the cold light of day.
Would rather target one of Geelongs out of contract sml forwards/lock down defenders next year, and repay the favour.

 

[ScragCity]

Yes

 

[Bulldogs85]

I just can’t wait for 7.30 Wednesday night because Smith won’t be the club’s problem anymore

 

[DiamondDogs8]

No. Would be a nice middle finger to those campaigners down in Geelong and give Sm*th some deserved panic, but come draft night we’ll regret not taking their first rounder.

We’ll hold a hard bargain and hopedully squeeze their 2025 second rounder too.

 

[Anja_Nees]

Posted my opinion elsewhere, but short point is that it depends on how likely he is to get to Geelong in the draft.

If it’s a certainty then angle for more but take the pick. You gain nothing by sending him to the draft.

If it’s not likely he’ll get there then play hardball and demand a further pick in the 20s. They’ll up their offer.

In a strong draft where we have no pick in the first 30, letting him go for nothing only to get to Geelong anyway would be insane.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

I probably wouldn't be too mad either way

I think the smart play is to just take it if it comes to it. We still need quality young players coming through and pick 20 gives us a chance to do that

I'm not totally convinced putting your foot down and sending him to the draft deters this situation happening down the track anyway

I'm confident that Power will blink last and we will get a little add on to that first round pick but I don't think it'll be quite what we want

 

[dogwatch]

It's a shit sandwich just like it was in 2014 when Griffen got lured to GWS. What we need is a reprisal raid on Geelong, like we did with GWS in 2014. Max Holmes for instance. Or Gryan Miers

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The 2014 ructions worked out OK in the end. A repeat would be nice, like a one goal win over Geelong in the 2026 PF.

 

[DogDays]

Yes, I still believe Richmond, North or St Kilda will pick him up.


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[dergert]

My level of pettiness is beyond reasonable.
Id send him to the draft, make sure we get a pick before Geelong and draft him.

 

[Guido]

My level of pettiness is beyond reasonable.
Id send him to the draft, make sure we get a pick before Geelong and draft him.

Then we lose the Pick 17 offered, plus all the assets to gain the first rounder to pip them, and have a uncomitted player taking up ~$750k who's seemingly on the nose with the rest of the squad, footy department and our fan base, on our list for the next 12 months (possibly longer).

If there was a "guarantee" that a North, Tiges or other team could grab him rather Geelong, I'd be happy to stand our ground and f him off for nothing if they don't meet us half way in trade.

In isolation, I'd argue that a scenario of them missing out on 7-8 years of a likely AA lvl player (+ missing the off-field juggernaut) + possibly a premiership or two he'd contribute to, for the sake of not giving up a couple of second rounders (with picks coming back) hurts them much more than us missing out on a 1 in 3 chance of getting a top level player.

But ... if we let him walk and he ends up at the Cats anyway, it's embarrassing.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Yes, I still believe Richmond, North or St Kilda will pick him up.


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It doesn't matter if you believe it, it only matters if the Cats do. It only helps us as a threat, once it happens we've lost. We might get some satisfaction from another team taking him but it doesn't actually help us.

 

[RWnBluey]

It’s impossible to answer this without knowing the final offer on the table.

Either way, there’s zero chance we do it unless Sam is given indication from other list managers that they’re prepared to take him before the cats first pick.

 

[Doggy Dan]

The AFL won’t let this happen, it will blow up the system. Mediation will take place and an agreement will be made, no doubt.

 

[Fossie 32]

Would be nice to send him to the draft but questionable whether it would make us stronger in future deals so probably go with their 17 and hopefully some extras

 

[DognBones]

Unfortunately we have to accept Geelong's scraps. We can push hard to get a cherry on top but the reality is we need something to take to the draft. We must bring in some young talent and at least pick 20 gives us a chance.
Of course, it's a shitty situation for us and the angst will last a long time. We need to have long memories and at some stage exact some payback.

 

[maddog37]

Trade him and then go public with his behaviour.

 

[Scottish Bob]

Honestly its mental if we did. it's not proving a point; it just makes us look stupid.

What it does expose is the absolutely flawed system that free agency is. How can a player in Battle who has played 2 more years than Smith and will get less money that Smith will get at Geelong get 1st round compensation? and we get nothing because he's not a free agent? the irony is Smith is the definition of free if he goes into the draft.

 

[CarnTheScray]

The AFL won’t let this happen, it will blow up the system. Mediation will take place and an agreement will be made, no doubt.

I think that is a bit of an overreaction. If Jade Rawlings didn’t blow it up, this wouldn’t.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

The answer to the question being asked on a fan forum is obvious.

The real question is will we?

 

[Next Waiting]

No. We take 17. The fact Sniff is leaving us and going there already makes us stronger and them weaker.

 

[Charlie Bucket]

If it was almost guaranteed another club would pick up in the draft, absolutely. Because I’m a spiteful campaigner.

If not, I’d leave the little balding campaigner hanging until the last minute before doing the deal.

Crystal balling it, I’m tipping we get 17 and F2 with steak knives going back. Unders, but not a lot we can do.

 

[Golden_6]

I think we should take 17 + something else (Cats will relent a little bit) but I wouldn't begrudge the club if they sent him to the draft.

Dealing with this should of bad faith just shouldn't be happening. You look around the league and clubs are coming to the party when it comes to handing over at least reasonable value for players they've courted to come into their clubs.

 

[Foxman98]

If they don't budge off just 17 **** the little campaigner he can go play for the saints

 

[King Harold]

Heart says
Head says

But start the white anting of a cats target now, with the promise of luxury, no expenses spared annual holidays for the entire extended family to Cancun .
All as the the guest of Mission Foods