Current Slasher Murders of Four University of Idaho Students - US *Bryan Kohberger Arrested

[Kurve]

Here's the probable cause docs.

 

[Sir_Loin]

No photos there?
Or you talking about somewhere else?

Somewhere else. Can’t recall where but it was an external shot of one of the rooms.

 

[Kurve]

The defence has filed for a change of venue, out of the state of Idaho. So the trial is a way off.

 

[Munich]

Did anybody watch the hearing last week re: The survey done by the defence?

It was probably the most heated hearing thus far.

AT accused JJJ of violating due process and he was pissed.

A few legal experts think she's trying to cause a change of venue via this survey. Interestingly Andrea Burkhart saw no issue with the survey.

 

[faible]

Did anybody watch the hearing last week re: The survey done by the defence?

It was probably the most heated hearing thus far.

AT accused JJJ of violating due process and he was pissed.

A few legal experts think she's trying to cause a change of venue via this survey. Interestingly Andrea Burkhart saw no issue with the survey.

Article about it - didn't realise this had occurred.

Bryan Kohberger’s attorneys scolded for contacting potential jurors ahead of trial

Kohberger’s attorney claimed phone surveys were vital part of efforts to seek a change of venue for the high-profile trial

www.independent.co.uk

Seems real sketchy, almost like they're trying to taint the jury pool to get it moved.

“Your honour … those questions are disseminating, by means of communication, evidence expected to be presented (and) evidence that could be or would be inadmissible at trial,” Mr Thompson told the judge.

He added that some of the questions contain “representations of fact that are not true or that would not be offered at trial.”

“That’s completely reckless,” he shouted. “We have a group of at least 400 people in Latah County who have been exposed to this in violation of the non-dissemination order.”

Mr Thompson was made aware of the phone surveys when a local resident contacted his office with some of the questions they received.

One asked: “Have you read, seen or heard that Bryan Kohberger stalked one of the victims?”

Another asked: “Have you read, seen or heard if police found a knife sheath on the bed next to one of the victims?”

It was followed up with: “Have you read, seen or heard that DNA found on the knife sheath was later matched to Bryan Kohberger?”

Next hearing date:

The judge did not make a ruling but set the next court date for Wednesday 10 April.

The judge said he also wants a “hearing at least every month,” noting the importance of “cleaning up” the legal proceedings.

 

[Munich]

Article about it - didn't realise this had occurred.

Bryan Kohberger’s attorneys scolded for contacting potential jurors ahead of trial

Kohberger’s attorney claimed phone surveys were vital part of efforts to seek a change of venue for the high-profile trial

www.independent.co.uk

Seems real sketchy, almost like they're trying to taint the jury pool to get it moved.



Next hearing date:

The survey is above board - they are sometimes done in high profile cases.

JJJ just had an issue with the defence doing it without his permission/forewarning. And in a brief AT accused him of violating due process which he was notttttttt happy about.

At one point JJJ said he'd be happy to do a weekly hearing from now on!

 

[TheDudeAbides]

The survey is above board - they are sometimes done in high profile cases.

JJJ just had an issue with the defence doing it without his permission/forewarning. And in a brief AT accused him of violating due process which he was notttttttt happy about.

At one point JJJ said he'd be happy to do a weekly hearing from now on!

Normally the survey is above board.

I think the prosecution (and Judge) were miffed on 2 further points to yours.

• The fact that questions were so direct containing evidence that may or may not have officially released to public
• The fact that they have worked so hard to protect the fairness of the trial with stacks and stacks of non-publication orders, only for the defence to do this.

The prosecution was saying (without saying it) that the defence has tainted the potential jury pool now with 400 people contacted in this survey out of the 40,000 county residents.

The defence put their arms up and said they werent aware of the questions being asked, they engaged this expert to do it and he went off on his own to carry it out. The defence said it needed to survey in order to put forward an argument to move the trial to another county for a fair trial.

Very interesting argument on a very interesting tactic of the defence...

 

[Munich]

Normally the survey is above board.

I think the prosecution (and Judge) were miffed on 2 further points to yours.

• The fact that questions were so direct containing evidence that may or may not have officially released to public
• The fact that they have worked so hard to protect the fairness of the trial with stacks and stacks of non-publication orders, only for the defence to do this.

The prosecution was saying (without saying it) that the defence has tainted the potential jury pool now with 400 people contacted in this survey out of the 40,000 county residents.

The defence put their arms up and said they werent aware of the questions being asked, they engaged this expert to do it and he went off on his own to carry it out. The defence said it needed to survey in order to put forward an argument to move the trial to another county for a fair trial.

Very interesting argument on a very interesting tactic of the defence...

Yes, though JJJ never mentioned the content of the questions when he was discussing his annoyance. Only that he wasn't informed or included in the process.

Everything that was mentioned in the questions is already in the public domain - most of it contained in the PCA but the bit about stalking was actually from a News source and unverified, so that's why it was included in the questions. If it was already out there I agree with Andrea Burkhart, what's the issue?

Interestingly (or not) as I posted Burkhart saw no issue with the questions (she's a defence lawyer) whilst Emily D Baker thought they were too much (she was a prosecutor).

 

[Munich]

Hearing on now with expert who designed the survey.

 

[Munich]

Thompson admitted today that BK did not stalk the victims.

He was not a happy camper! I thought the expert was really good.

+1 for the defence.

 

[croweater 41]

 

[Kurve]

Has the prosecution gone anywhere near to proposing a motive?

 

[OnTheRocks]

Has the prosecution gone anywhere near to proposing a motive?

None so far & if Bryan K is exonerated then a lot of questions will be asked of Moscow PD & their investigation.
Who will answer those questions considering quite a few MPD officers retired soon after the murders?

 

[croweater 41]

 

[X_box_X]

From what I've been reading and listening to over the past week, it seems more likely than not that BK will be found not guilty.

 

[OnTheRocks]

From what I've been reading and listening to over the past week, it seems more likely than not that BK will be found not guilty.

That's if it even gets to trial. With what little evidence the prosecutors have shown, I just can't think that Kohberger will be found guilty & executed. Then again it is the US & innocent people have been put to death before.
Bushy eyebrows, touch DNA and a white car isn't very compelling evidence from what limited amount of evidence the prosecutors have provided the defence.

 

[kaiserchief13]

That's if it even gets to trial. With what little evidence the prosecutors have shown, I just can't think that Kohberger will be found guilty & executed. Then again it is the US & innocent people have been put to death before.
Bushy eyebrows, touch DNA and a white car isn't very compelling evidence from what limited amount of evidence the prosecutors have provided the defence.

If there is insufficient evidence why is he still locked up and not given bail?

 

[Munich]

If there is insufficient evidence why is he still locked up and not given bail?

The Grand Jury was enough to keep him locked up. But apparently they can be a low bar.

I think the prosecution have more evidence but not as much as most think. I don't think they're hiding a truckload or anything.

BK's defence are very experienced they won't leave a stone unturned.

 

[OnTheRocks]

Ummmm 4 dead & I doubt he would be able to afford the the very substantial bail amount, being a student.
More so, imagine the uproar if bail was offered & made?
probs safer for him inside than out

 

[Munich]

Ummmm 4 dead & I doubt he would be able to afford the the very substantial bail amount, being a student.
More so, imagine the uproar if bail was offered & made?
probs safer for him inside than out

He's in protective custody in there as well.

 

[OnTheRocks]

Sounds like a step closer to potentially getting a fairer trial & a new judge

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/09/us/bryan-kohberger-idaho-murders-trial-venue-change/index.html

 

[Munich]

I'm pissed I like Judge Judge

 

[OnTheRocks]

He's in protective custody in there as well.

I've been wondering this for a while too. Is he connected to the killer/s or know them or of them? Is is safer to say nothing and try and beat a death penalty than say something and risk his family's lives?

 

[OnTheRocks]

I'm pissed I like Judge Judge

Only in America, oh well I doubt the next judge will have the same slip of the tongue when it comes to Kopac......Kohberger

 

[Munich]

Only in America, oh well I doubt the next judge will have the same slip of the tongue when it comes to Kopac......Kohberger

Huh?

 

[OnTheRocks]

Huh?

When addressing the court , Judge Judge must have been thinking of Brent Kopacka as he nearly said his name a few times. He had to correct himself and say Kohberger. Some questions are being asked as to why he would have someone else's name & that appears to have no involvement in this case, on his mind?