Soccer fans meet with FFA and resolve issues - could same happen with AFL?

[Port182]

Do you think so?

Soccer fans boycotted matches which led to a five-hour meeting last night that resolved all the issues.

No doubt fans on here have many issues with the AFL, do you think a similar thing could happen?

 

[Smoky]

Can see Joffa now...



It will never happen.

 

[Mr Ripper]

Too apathetic and/or too parochial.

 

[Randomizor]

More info? Were the issues just related to the banning of the fans?

 

[master bate]

First we'll have to organise in to supporter groups.
Then protest.
Then come up with legitimate demands such as: an appeal process for banned fans, relaxation of police and private security, better fan support.

Major problems with the AFL include:
- tinkering with the rules +/- style of modern football
- fixturing

Is anyone threatening a boycott over those issues?

 

[incubi]

The issues A-league fans were having are a lot different to issues AFL fans have. The AFL is actually quite good to its fans considering its position on the sporting landscape relative to similar siutaitons in Australia and world wide

 

[incubi]

A League fans also had the support of their teams because the teams have their own issues with the FFA in regards to how the league is ran and where the money goes

 

[Topkent]

I wish people had boycotted when they were killing off the Bump a few years ago, much more entertaining game with a big of aggression

 

[Kingfish73]

Nah. Could not seen AFL taking such an extreme stance. TV rights provide biggest $ so one could argue that even if turnstile dollars has small material impact to AFL revenue - would not happen.

 

[im_a_lazy_sod]

Nah. FFA at least has to answer to the AFC and FIFA. The afl answers to nobody

Need an independent governing body to oversee the leagues (all of them) - much like FIFA oversees the FA who oversee the premier league etc.

Be different if the league said to the afl (if they were independent) that fans aren't happy and something should be done, but right now none of that can happen

 

[Underarm]

FFA had genuine issues to deal with.

 

[pinot]

Psychology is totally different.

Soccer games crowds are different more signing and too much focus on tactics of the game and when a team scores the whole stadium goes nuts.. really nuts. When a team is struggling the fans feel more obliged to fire up the team an that could mean flares, harsh chants whatever it takes

AFL is action packed and so much happening where a goal doesn't mean as much as it does in soccer.

I absolutely love seeing flares done the right way - the smokey gaze in night matches in cup type ties or very big games makes it extra special.

I go with the wife and two kids to both AFL and Melbourne Victory two totally different psychology following the sport.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

A-League boycott was about fans being summarily banned and names leaked to the media with no consequence. I don’t see how this translates to the AFL.

No, there won't be a boycott because it's "too expensive" or "it was better in the '90s" or "I don't like the rule changes".

 

[aCunningPlan]

A-League boycott was about fans being summarily banned and names leaked to the media with no consequence. I don’t see how this translates to the AFL.

No, there won't be a boycott because it's "too expensive" or "it was better in the '90s" or "I don't like the rule changes".

Spot on.

The only boycott that could have occurred would be swans fans, and opposition fans for that matter, refused to turn up while the afl was initially silent on the racist nature of some fans at games.

 

[Giants FC]

Soccer people are a paranoid lot. We don't see the identification of the Freo bloke who hit the woman or the girl who called Adam Goodes an ape as being an attack on our game. No-one is going to walk out of games or stay away to protest against them being identified.

 

[Pacman82]

Settle down Suzie..

 

[CotchNCo]

Soccer people are a paranoid lot. We don't see the identification of the Freo bloke who hit the woman or the girl who called Adam Goodes an ape as being an attack on our game. No-one is going to walk out of games or stay away to protest against them being identified.

Whilst the leaking of the names is an issue the FFA needs to deal with the primary reason for the boycott and meeting the other night was about the lack of an appeals process for fans that feel they have been banned unfairly.

It's not about being paranoid, it's about a fair process. I think you'll find most soccer fans think that those who have done wrong should receive lengthy stadiums bans but when you don't know the evidence and are not allowed to view it, you can hardly think the process is fair.

 

[incubi]

Soccer people are a paranoid lot. We don't see the identification of the Freo bloke who hit the woman or the girl who called Adam Goodes an ape as being an attack on our game. No-one is going to walk out of games or stay away to protest against them being identified.

Those are different situations, one of them was caught on camera by the media and the other had criminal charges laid.
The issues with the a-league is that people were banned without knowing what evidence was used and a few of the cases a suggestion that if the CCTV footage was used the person would be proven innocent. Also A-leagiue fans could be banned without a right to appeal that ban.
They were named in the media without context of what they had done and without a right to appeal the decision which led to their name being on that list

 

[Rob]

I doubt many are going to get behind the cause of a bunch of banned supporters.

Freedom for Cody Yarran!

 

[Ozil]

Soccer people are a paranoid lot. We don't see the identification of the Freo bloke who hit the woman or the girl who called Adam Goodes an ape as being an attack on our game. No-one is going to walk out of games or stay away to protest against them being identified.

Innocent fans banned for no reason lost their jobs because of Rebecca Wilson and company's crusade against sokkah hools. It's not paranoia, there are plenty in the media with an agenda against the game and its fans, simply because they don't understand the culture of the code.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Although I think soccer fans are paranoid about the media apparently "attacking" the game; it is an absolute disgusting that those names were leaked when some have been proved to have been not guilty and not being able to appeal well that is just a joke

 

[simba_]

Although I think soccer fans are paranoid about the media apparently "attacking" the game; it is an absolute disgusting that those names were leaked when some have been proved to have been not guilty and not being able to appeal well that is just a joke

that sounds like attacking the game

 

[theyellowsash]

AFL fans arent a bunch of militants so we would never even be bothered to do it, we just wouldnt turn up (as has happened re falling attendances the last couple years). the soccer 'supporter groups' are closer in mentality to the cfmeu than to afl cheer squads.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

that sounds like attacking the game

Well then every single sport is attacked constantly in one way or another

 

[simba_]

Well then every single sport is attacked constantly in one way or another

true that