Southern Football League 2007

[Hoax]

Thanks Blac04 !!

I am interested in everyone's opinion in regards to Div 1 and in particular St Kilda City. Will money buy a flag ???

Who is the assistant coach as I am sure that they will be doing the bulk of the coaching ?

Interested in any comments or am I being to harsh ?

As a current player at StKilda City I can honestly say I've found no problems with the pre-season guidance provided by Richard Houston so far. We've had good numbers on the track and have been doing plenty of work, without demoralising guys by endless running. He's placed a tight line on discipline while still allowing guys to enjoy their time on the track.

Having played in several sucessfull sides myself I'm yet to see a coach at this level make that much difference. In fact I've played in 2 winning premiership sides were the coach was probably below par. Whether Richard proves to be a good coach on game day is yet to be seen but he's got plenty of smart guys around him to assist.

I'd be interested in what other reader think RE: good players VS good coach. Can a good coach make a significant difference at this level or does it all come back to the cattle?

 

[Pining]

I like the weekly quiz question on the "new" SFL site. Not because of the quality of the question itself, or that a weekly prize is offered, or even that they are advertising for someone to fork out the weekly prize.
It's the fact that the question sits on the site for a good month!!

 

[M-Lion]

I like the weekly quiz question on the "new" SFL site. Not because of the quality of the question itself, or that a weekly prize is offered, or even that they are advertising for someone to fork out the weekly prize.
It's the fact that the question sits on the site for a good month!!

Stop "PINING" over it and answer the question,maybe they haven't got the right answer.

 

[M-Lion]

As a current player at StKilda City I can honestly say I've found no problems with the pre-season guidance provided by Richard Houston so far. We've had good numbers on the track and have been doing plenty of work, without demoralising guys by endless running. He's placed a tight line on discipline while still allowing guys to enjoy their time on the track.

Having played in several sucessfull sides myself I'm yet to see a coach at this level make that much difference. In fact I've played in 2 winning premiership sides were the coach was probably below par. Whether Richard proves to be a good coach on game day is yet to be seen but he's got plenty of smart guys around him to assist.

I'd be interested in what other reader think RE: good players VS good coach. Can a good coach make a significant difference at this level or does it all come back to the cattle?

You still need a good coach to guide and control players regardless of how good they are,players can't see whats happening on the ground either, they get too involed in the game,the coach can sit back and make judgements when required to maybe influence the game.

 

[cuttingedge]

As a current player at StKilda City I can honestly say I've found no problems with the pre-season guidance provided by Richard Houston so far. We've had good numbers on the track and have been doing plenty of work, without demoralising guys by endless running. He's placed a tight line on discipline while still allowing guys to enjoy their time on the track.

Having played in several sucessfull sides myself I'm yet to see a coach at this level make that much difference. In fact I've played in 2 winning premiership sides were the coach was probably below par. Whether Richard proves to be a good coach on game day is yet to be seen but he's got plenty of smart guys around him to assist.

I'd be interested in what other reader think RE: good players VS good coach.Can a good coach make a significant difference at this level or does it all come back to the cattle?

How many years have you played there and have you had a leadership role or been involved in match commitee. Also what role does rocket play there, he is mystery man but seems to have an influence over what happens down there one of the better people you will meet anywhere.Now we have a stkilda person on the forum. Who is Brett Mason his name seems to pop up when the saints are supposed to have a good list? Is he the same bloke that walked out at Caulfield mid year early 2000?
Also is Adrian Newman training hard, he could be the difference this year!

 

[Hampton Hammer]

Hammer is matty wardell training at hampton this season or has he chucked it in for good now he has too many work commitments, last time i watched him he was busy punching heads not the ball

Matt has had some demanding work committments with his school and hasn't been training with us of recent date. He would be a handy player for us if he decided to play at the Hammers....

 

[cuttingedge]

Fair chance the councils will do a a bit of watering and ground preparation in the weeks leading up to the opening match.

Don't be fooled by the assumption that grounds will be watered to get footy going, if your gound is shot now ,it will remain that way unless there is plenty of rain.Stage 4 water restrictions will be in place by April 1 or thereabouts, conversely the grounds that are being watered now are running under a stage 2 exemption, once we move from Stage 3 to 4, this exemption will be lifted and the grounds will left to survive naturally, if we go by whats happened in the last 3 years we have had dry winters this will kill the season , the grounds need massive rainfall in March or the season is in jeopardy. The state & federal governments have a lot to answer for they have been aware for 5 years that water is in rapid decline.
The simple answer is for the relevant parties to get together and provide recycled water to all sporting clubs . I think this should be funded federally. I think BOOROOndara have had this system installed at some grounds but I'm not sure who paid for it.
IF local footy loses a season it will destroy the game and the fabric of footy in this state.

 

[cuttingedge]

Cuttingedge

Is James McDonald training? Throught I noticed someone matching his description as I was jogging past the other evening.

Not sure

 

[Injury prone]

I have to say with the start of the season being delayed until the 28/4/07 interest at some clubs will be waning. Some clubs have been running around since before Xmas last year.
Realise many of you would not have had the chance to speak to many of your team mates about it, but what will clubs be doing aside from praccy games, which most of us still can't even manage to keep interest up?

 

[flying dutchman]

Not sure

I doubt it, as James was an All-Australian in the AFL last season it would be abit of a fall from grace , i think it would have james's older brother Anthony he use to play at Old Xavs and collingwood i think.

 

[The_Cat]

IF local footy loses a season it will destroy the game and the fabric of footy in this state.

It's not just the footy that will suffer, but there is a large economic factor involved as well.

Think of all the businesses that rely on sport, in particular 'local' footy, like jumper manufacturers, merchandise & apparell, footy record printers, pies, beers, canteen lollies, strapping tape etc etc. plus all the small businesses...

If you think of hour much your club spends on these items alone and then multiply that by how many clubs there are in your league (let alone the state) and it starts to become quite a lot of money that may not be spent this year, which could hurt a lot of businesses.

Local footy means a lot more to a lot of people than just a Saturday afternoon.

 

[Frankencow]

Can only help South Yarra. We're still getting new blokes every week and a few down there could use the extra 2 weeks of getting fit (mainly that Lachy guy with the awesome tat...)

 

[stylin]

I doubt it, as James was an All-Australian in the AFL last season it would be abit of a fall from grace , i think it would have james's older brother Anthony he use to play at Old Xavs and collingwood i think.

anthony was also on the demons list, if its the ex - magpie ur talking bout, then it would be Alex Mcdonald (their other brother)?

 

[PeterDean]

As a current player at StKilda City I can honestly say I've found no problems with the pre-season guidance provided by Richard Houston so far. We've had good numbers on the track and have been doing plenty of work, without demoralising guys by endless running. He's placed a tight line on discipline while still allowing guys to enjoy their time on the track.

Having played in several sucessfull sides myself I'm yet to see a coach at this level make that much difference. In fact I've played in 2 winning premiership sides were the coach was probably below par. Whether Richard proves to be a good coach on game day is yet to be seen but he's got plenty of smart guys around him to assist.

I'd be interested in what other reader think RE: good players VS good coach.Can a good coach make a significant difference at this level or does it all come back to the cattle?

I've been part of premiership sides with coaches who were poles apart in their ways, but still added their own value. For success at any level there are so many things that have to come together, but a hell of a lot of it relies on the players (and a bit of luck helps too)

Having said that, a coach who also brings a few quality players with him is invaluable, if not expected in our league.

 

[Hoax]

I've been part of premiership sides with coaches who were poles apart in their ways, but still added their own value. For success at any level there are so many things that have to come together, but a hell of a lot of it relies on the players (and a bit of luck helps too)

Having said that, a coach who also brings a few quality players with him is invaluable, if not expected in our league.

I agree. Perhaps my observations have come from playing country footy where the coach is often the best player on the park but provides little in the way of traditional coaching during the match.

This is often left up to the "old heads" on the bench (team manager, assistant coach) who try and switch players around. It's certainly a lot harder for a great coach to win games with a team of scrubbers that it is for a team of good players to run the show themselves with a dud coach.

 

[whowantstoknow]

Doesnt matter how good the coach is if he has no quality players then he is in for a hard job. Ask yourself have you ever seen a team of no hopers win a flag? I think not, where a coach can make a difference is when you have 50% quality players and then take them to a flag. Look at Brisbane Lions....classic example.....if they lose again this year does that make Mathews a dud coach....I think not.

 

[who r u]

***Time for some reality***

I have no real issues with the appointment of coaches, just the ignorance of clubs who are so short sighted and end up looking for a quick result rather than the sustainability of the club and the players who have always supported the club.

The other issue is the leagues ignorance to allow clubs to participate with only 1 side.

Look at Sth Mornington came in won a reserves flag due to only having 1 side then said thank yery much and went to the Amateurs

I believe that the southern football league is lacking in several areas, this being the main area and the recruitment of umpires.

Too many clubs are heading out of the league and looking for better options in other leagues.

I love local footy but as long as the league continues to allow any club to enter and the standard of umpiring to fall, then I suggest we should all get ready to either end up in the Amateurs / EDFL / MPNFL or just close the doors.

The clubs need to ensure that the league is accountable to all of it's paying members !!!

 

[Nobster72]

***Time for some reality***

I have no real issues with the appointment of coaches, just the ignorance of clubs who are so short sighted and end up looking for a quick result rather than the sustainability of the club and the players who have always supported the club.

The other issue is the leagues ignorance to allow clubs to participate with only 1 side.

Look at Sth Mornington came in won a reserves flag due to only having 1 side then said thank yery much and went to the Amateurs

I believe that the southern football league is lacking in several areas, this being the main area and the recruitment of umpires.

Too many clubs are heading out of the league and looking for better options in other leagues.

I love local footy but as long as the league continues to allow any club to enter and the standard of umpiring to fall, then I suggest we should all get ready to either end up in the Amateurs / EDFL / MPNFL or just close the doors.

The clubs need to ensure that the league is accountable to all of it's paying members !!!

Mr Who r u,
In regards to your criticism of recruitment of and the lack of quality umpires in the SFL do you have any suggestions in how we can work on that champ,Maybe if you think you can do better then we would welcome you down to training ,we are always looking out for new umpires.I can tell you that we are working very hard at trying the improve the image of umpiring in the SFL,as well as the quality,Having umpired at various levels in victoria including VFL,I can tell you the quality at the top end of our panel is the equal to any I have been involved with and younger as well,I will agree with you that at the bottom end there is some improvement needed,but with the quality coaching and feedback and the guys wanting to improve, I am sure that it will continue to develop.Maybe the clubs should point the finger at the SFL not the umpires individually by trying to make umpiring more attractive to those who wish to stay involved with our great game and who don't want to play,or have no desire in playing.

 

[MadMan V1.2]

Mr Who r u,
In regards to your criticism of recruitment of and the lack of quality umpires in the SFL do you have any suggestions in how we can work on that champ,Maybe if you think you can do better then we would welcome you down to training ,we are always looking out for new umpires.I can tell you that we are working very hard at trying the improve the image of umpiring in the SFL,as well as the quality,Having umpired at various levels in victoria including VFL,I can tell you the quality at the top end of our panel is the equal to any I have been involved with and younger as well,I will agree with you that at the bottom end there is some improvement needed,but with the quality coaching and feedback and the guys wanting to improve, I am sure that it will continue to develop.Maybe the clubs should point the finger at the SFL not the umpires individually by trying to make umpiring more attractive to those who wish to stay involved with our great game and who don't want to play,or have no desire in playing.

Yeah O agree, its gotta be hard for these blokes because it isnt appealing, but as long as ego's dont get in the way umpiring is usually fairly good in the sfl!!

Its no different froma ny other league that I have played in!

 

[blac04]

Yeah O agree, its gotta be hard for these blokes because it isnt appealing, but as long as ego's dont get in the way umpiring is usually fairly good in the sfl!!

Its no different froma ny other league that I have played in!

Having played sfl for the last 2 years, i think the umpiring isn't too bad. every now and then you get an idiot who loves the power, but most are fairly consistent and look after the blokes putting their head over the footy. What more can you ask for?

 

[lochee]

Mr Who r u,
In regards to your criticism of recruitment of and the lack of quality umpires in the SFL do you have any suggestions in how we can work on that champ,Maybe if you think you can do better then we would welcome you down to training ,we are always looking out for new umpires.I can tell you that we are working very hard at trying the improve the image of umpiring in the SFL,as well as the quality,Having umpired at various levels in victoria including VFL,I can tell you the quality at the top end of our panel is the equal to any I have been involved with and younger as well,I will agree with you that at the bottom end there is some improvement needed,but with the quality coaching and feedback and the guys wanting to improve, I am sure that it will continue to develop.Maybe the clubs should point the finger at the SFL not the umpires individually by trying to make umpiring more attractive to those who wish to stay involved with our great game and who don't want to play,or have no desire in playing.

l concur with the umpires its easy to sit back and have a go at them but remember that with them we have no game so if any of you can do better get off your arses and go train to be an umpire other wise give them some praise they may make mistakes but players make many more and by the way l am not an umpire just a footie lover

 

[who r u]

Mr Who r u,
In regards to your criticism of recruitment of and the lack of quality umpires in the SFL do you have any suggestions in how we can work on that champ,Maybe if you think you can do better then we would welcome you down to training ,we are always looking out for new umpires.I can tell you that we are working very hard at trying the improve the image of umpiring in the SFL,as well as the quality,Having umpired at various levels in victoria including VFL,I can tell you the quality at the top end of our panel is the equal to any I have been involved with and younger as well,I will agree with you that at the bottom end there is some improvement needed,but with the quality coaching and feedback and the guys wanting to improve, I am sure that it will continue to develop.Maybe the clubs should point the finger at the SFL not the umpires individually by trying to make umpiring more attractive to those who wish to stay involved with our great game and who don't want to play,or have no desire in playing.

Thanks for the feedback Nobster,

Having played and umpired I believed my criticism was leveled at the SFL, but now that you have mentioned the issues you face I do have an idea to assist - Why don't you rotate your umpires through all the divisions ie an experienced umpire with a not so experienced umpire, rather than just putting the crap into the lowest division. All 3 divisions pay fees and therefore are entitled to quality umpires not just the ones that you pull from centre link who then believe that they are bigger than the game.

Umpires should be seen and not heard!!

 

[who r u]

Can anyone shed some light on how Dingley are going and how they might peform in Div 2 ??

 

[scratcha]

Come on Scratcha, get off the doveton grass !

If Corrie was going to come back then he would have already, he has no loyalty to your club.

This he has already shown !

We dont have any grass down at Doveton, well not green grass anyway. hehe One of the better grounds in the comp and gone to waste.
With the hunt situation, he needs money to compensate his busy lifestyle, and with his football ability can get it probabaly at any club that pays players. Good luck to him for it. We at Doveton dont particually like paying players.... We cant afford it!!!

 

[who r u]

We dont have any grass down at Doveton, well not green grass anyway. hehe One of the better grounds in the comp and gone to waste.
With the hunt situation, he needs money to compensate his busy lifestyle, and with his football ability can get it probabaly at any club that pays players. Good luck to him for it. We at Doveton dont particually like paying players.... We cant afford it!!!

Come on Scratcha you would be one of the highest paid players down there !