Dylan Ford appointed New Norfolk Coach
Callen Daly appointed Huonville Lions Coach
Very interesting choices.
Callen Daly appointed Huonville Lions Coach
Very interesting choices.
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Southern Football League (Tas) Thread
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Gersman
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Spreyton just announced they are gone, can't find a coach and lost too many players.
East Devonport trying to come out of recess have a coach but can't get enough players, might not make it back onto the field.
Grand Uncle Horace
Shake down the thunder
Sad reading.
TassieAFLexpert
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I don’t believe many of the others that had been there for a while are going back either. Wonder what is happening up there.
Daniel Gray.
Played 190 games for the Tigers from 1995-2007.
Life Member. Was the Senior captain from 2003-2005 and played in the club's last senior premiership in 1999.
Later went on to coach St Virgils in 2008-09.
Heard a rumour that there were upto 10 ex Hobart players who had played a fair chunk of senior footy up there that were keen to go back, the president was told of this to try and secure them and didn't contact any of them and now they're all signed up at other clubs. Only just found this out from a mate who's son was one of them going to go back.
TassieAFLexpert
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That’s a bit strange isn’t it? I wonder how the numbers are looking for them. Hopefully can get two sides
I heard that they had to field a senior side in 2024, seen on Facebook that one of their better players Lachy Plummer signed with a Myrtleford over in Melbourne.
Played TSL according to the Myrtleford post he’s shared. Well, he would have if he wasn’t incredibly lazy. Hope I’m wrong for the kid’s sake, but he threatens to be one of the all time great wastes of talent unless he develops a liking for hard work.
Gersman
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I have a good mate that's tied up with them that told me during the season that they were being heavily targeted and had shown interest at board level to join the new Premier League, so it's not a surprise.
As it stands now, neither Hobart or New Norfolk are in any position to play at that level.
Cygnet and Huonville Lions are absolutely not interested and I'm not sure Lindisfarne are either for that matter.
The original SFL Premier League setup in 2002 was Clarence, Glenorchy, North Hobart, Hobart, New Norfolk, Brighton, Kingston (Kingborough) and Sorell.
Sorell pulled out in the 2002/03 off season after being unable to form a committee and sat out the 2003 season, whereby they resumed in 2004 in the Regional League and their position in the Premier League was filled by Lauderdale who had just stitched up an AFL partnership with Essendon.
Brighton had actually made the 2001 preliminary final when the SFL was a 15-team competition and consisted of five former TFL clubs but didn't have a particularly good setup underneath, and eventually when their good players from that 1996-2001 era when they were up the top part of the ladder in those years either retired or moved on, they had nothing coming through underneath and they fell in a screaming heap for years and years after and have still never reached those heights again.
My guess is that their junior setup seems to have been quite successful in recent years and appear to have quite large numbers so that's likely the reasoning behind it.
Whether or not they'll be able to keep up with the likes of the former TSL sides is anyone's guess, personally I can't see them playing finals for a fair few years yet.
So it seems that the Premier League would contain Clarence, Lauderdale, North Hobart, Kingborough, Glenorchy and Brighton.
The Regional League would contain New Norfolk, Hobart, Claremont, Lindisfarne, Dodges Ferry, Sorell, Cygnet and Huonville Lions.
I see Brighton like Kingborough was when they joined the TSL.
Yerp it will be hard early.
But they have juniors in every grade, many quality senior players that have gone to say a Clarence in the past that may stay now.
With the highschool being built they will gain those boys that would have currently go to Newtown High and walk across to the bike track for training for NH.
They have a major advantage with their access to their ground.
I just believe it should be promotion/relegation every year.
Yerp it will be hard early.
But they have juniors in every grade, many quality senior players that have gone to say a Clarence in the past that may stay now.
With the highschool being built they will gain those boys that would have currently go to Newtown High and walk across to the bike track for training for NH.
They have a major advantage with their access to their ground.
I just believe it should be promotion/relegation every year.
Promo-Relegation - never ever! It's the best way to completely fxxx a professional sporting league and entrench a privileged few into positions of extended dominance.
I'd go so far as to have four teams up top, protected from demotion and with privileges - the entire point being that if you're going to design a league intended for elite pathways going higher, you have to protect that structure. A team sport takes time to develop team players, so there could be nothing more destructive for a pathway than constant demotion of teams...
Additionally, Tasmanians and travel...bloody hell, I had no idea what a road trip was until I was commuting between Brisbane and the GC three times a week when I moved up 28 years ago, and I've just accepted a job with a 60km distance every day thinking nothing of it...we used to think our uni lecturer was (even more) mad when we discovered he travelled to Newnham from Deloraine every day. In the north, a Scottsdale player might be discouraged from playing if his team was suddenly the only one in the old NEFU area, and he was playing old Esk teams every week...I could imagine a Dodges player thinking the journey to old Huon teams would be not so far short of that. If you've never lived outside of Tassie, you have no idea what a long distance is, but this issue is not solved through education, it's about accommodating. The lower divisions should be geographically aligned...throw in a few extra sides down below, and make it a Premier League structure (full S/R/U, just a few sides) supported by two equal lower divisions (just seniors, as many teams as you can get), NS or EW or whatever works...separate kids league or an U19's, whatever is most cost effective and gets tons of them onto the field...
The biggest issue facing all clubs is player retention, and in essence, you want the best players hanging out in a concentrated high performance environment, and the lower teams overloaded with players and not as many money worries. You will not get that if a concentrated environment team gets no chances to build a side because they got demoted, and the team that replaced them suddenly is getting slaughtered every week...a player exodus would happen for both teams...
I'd go so far as to have four teams up top, protected from demotion and with privileges - the entire point being that if you're going to design a league intended for elite pathways going higher, you have to protect that structure. A team sport takes time to develop team players, so there could be nothing more destructive for a pathway than constant demotion of teams...
Additionally, Tasmanians and travel...bloody hell, I had no idea what a road trip was until I was commuting between Brisbane and the GC three times a week when I moved up 28 years ago, and I've just accepted a job with a 60km distance every day thinking nothing of it...we used to think our uni lecturer was (even more) mad when we discovered he travelled to Newnham from Deloraine every day. In the north, a Scottsdale player might be discouraged from playing if his team was suddenly the only one in the old NEFU area, and he was playing old Esk teams every week...I could imagine a Dodges player thinking the journey to old Huon teams would be not so far short of that. If you've never lived outside of Tassie, you have no idea what a long distance is, but this issue is not solved through education, it's about accommodating. The lower divisions should be geographically aligned...throw in a few extra sides down below, and make it a Premier League structure (full S/R/U, just a few sides) supported by two equal lower divisions (just seniors, as many teams as you can get), NS or EW or whatever works...separate kids league or an U19's, whatever is most cost effective and gets tons of them onto the field...
The biggest issue facing all clubs is player retention, and in essence, you want the best players hanging out in a concentrated high performance environment, and the lower teams overloaded with players and not as many money worries. You will not get that if a concentrated environment team gets no chances to build a side because they got demoted, and the team that replaced them suddenly is getting slaughtered every week...a player exodus would happen for both teams...
Gersman
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True re Brighton High being built. They probably will get a lot of local kids getting involved if its run properly which sounds like it is.
One of my grandsons pals played at NN juniors and his dad reckoned it was a total dogs breakfast and run like a s–––show so he stopped playing footy.
I dont think promoting and relegating teams like the soccer would work either, Huonville and Cygnet wouldn't wanna play in a competition without each other in it. Too much rivalry to ignore.
I hear three teams were interested in the new league. Brighton, Claremont and Lindisfarne.
Claremont have gone to the pack and are a mess, so they werent considered good enough.
Lindisfarne got cold feet and pulled out of talks.
Brighton got the nod because of their new changerooms and fast growing area pretty much by the sound of it.
Heard NN are doing ok numbers wise not sure about quality, Hobart at best 50% chance of ever coming back is the strong tip I'm hearing (can't get enough numbers).
One of my grandsons pals played at NN juniors and his dad reckoned it was a total dogs breakfast and run like a s–––show so he stopped playing footy.
I dont think promoting and relegating teams like the soccer would work either, Huonville and Cygnet wouldn't wanna play in a competition without each other in it. Too much rivalry to ignore.
I hear three teams were interested in the new league. Brighton, Claremont and Lindisfarne.
Claremont have gone to the pack and are a mess, so they werent considered good enough.
Lindisfarne got cold feet and pulled out of talks.
Brighton got the nod because of their new changerooms and fast growing area pretty much by the sound of it.
Heard NN are doing ok numbers wise not sure about quality, Hobart at best 50% chance of ever coming back is the strong tip I'm hearing (can't get enough numbers).
Couldn’t disagree more. Works in VIC.
So Huonville stuck in Div two smacking teams is ok?
Or Brighton stuck in Div 1 getting smacked is ok?
what happens if Nrighton never get good? Or Glenorchy? Or Huonville and Cygnet play for the next 10 flags?
Anyways can agree to disagree?
No point posting if that's the go...
Brighton's job now is to get their shit together and be worthy of the position they applied for. All teams are playing under the same conditions, and next year Huonville might suck. Cygnet did for an extended period up until a few years ago, they're on their second good SFL era, and Lindisfarne were the worst team in the SFL for the first part of this century. New Norfolk were untouchable for ten years after decades as an elite TFL team, and now are in danger of disappearing. Claremont fought them as an elite team before covid, and two years ago achieved the worst record I've ever seen from a senior side, as I research a book aiming to record every game ever played in Tasmania. WL is the least reliable indicator of league strength, silly as that sounds, and is never guaranteed in the long term. Hobart proves what happens when a league doesn't have direction, stability or common sense...you'd be hoping everyone approaches the next one with a more united vision...
Only three teams applied for the sixth position, so you'd assume most of the second division teams wouldn't want the job if they won a flag. You also need to allow an elite side to build a team up worthy of that status, because the point of an elite side is to keep the talent concentrated at the pointy end. The upheaval caused by compulsory axing and premature demotion would be ridiculous and counterproductive...
Hold on, Hobart’s plight is the league’s fault? 
