Brisbane the premiers are about to get the best player in the draft basically free.
Port, Richmond, Melbourne, St Kilda and Freo are the only clubs that do not have advantages in the AFL.
How would y'all make the AFL as a competition fair?
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St Kilda President Andrew Bassat tees off on the AFL draft system, specifically father/son and the Northern Academies
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Brisbane the premiers are about to get the best player in the draft basically free.
Port, Richmond, Melbourne, St Kilda and Freo are the only clubs that do not have advantages in the AFL.
How would y'all make the AFL as a competition fair?
Yet drafted Billings and McCartin over Petracca and Bont.
Imagine what Windhager and Owens were thinking when this weird whinging President was having this pathetic rant?
Could only imagine every Commissioner was like
as they walked off.
Imagine what Windhager and Owens were thinking when this weird whinging President was having this pathetic rant?
Could only imagine every Commissioner was like
as they walked off.
Making excuses to feed the fan base.
How come Hawthorn is so fricken good all the time?
How come Hawthorn is so fricken good all the time?
Father Son is such an odd thing to whinge about given the randomness of it.
Sometimes it works out (Daicos x 2, Ashcroft, Hawkins etc), other times sons don’t want to play for Dad’s club (Dunkley, Marc Murphy etc) and other times they are just low risk busts (at Lions, Shane Morrison, Josh Clayton) and other times they don’t make the grade (Casey Voss and no doubt many others) or you have a lot of players having girls.
Doubt you’d also find many northerners complaining about NGA’s either for legitimate kids that clubs put development into like Essendon have done with the kid they’ll pick up.
Sometimes it works out (Daicos x 2, Ashcroft, Hawkins etc), other times sons don’t want to play for Dad’s club (Dunkley, Marc Murphy etc) and other times they are just low risk busts (at Lions, Shane Morrison, Josh Clayton) and other times they don’t make the grade (Casey Voss and no doubt many others) or you have a lot of players having girls.
Doubt you’d also find many northerners complaining about NGA’s either for legitimate kids that clubs put development into like Essendon have done with the kid they’ll pick up.
Toump Ass
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Good on him.
F/S entitlements are a rort. Not only do you skip the draft which is meant to equalise the comp, you don't even have to pay the full price (in points). Bundling up junk picks for a Top 3 player is ridiculous.
The advantages they give clubs are excessive.
F/S entitlements are a rort. Not only do you skip the draft which is meant to equalise the comp, you don't even have to pay the full price (in points). Bundling up junk picks for a Top 3 player is ridiculous.
The advantages they give clubs are excessive.
mighty_lions
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and the advantage of having a home grand final every year is excessive, quit your whinging
don't see him advocating for the grand final to be moved
Toump Ass
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The **** are you on about.
You literally won a grand final at a neutral venue like 3 days ago lmao.
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Northern academies are an inequitable allowance. F/S is something 16/18 have access to, and in time GCS and GWS will get some F/S become eligible.
List the advantages the rest have.
mighty_lions
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the competition is full of inequalities, Melbourne teams get the ultimate advantage of have a home grand final
mighty_lions
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? woop de doop, we also lost last year by under a goal, its a clear advantage for victorian teams every year
The Lions being able to draft Levi Ashcroft for a handful of beans this year is ridiculous. All clubs should have to pay fair value for their F/S selections.
It was ridiculous when Tom Hawkins was drafted at pick 41 in the 2006 draft and nothing has changed.
Apart from the stupid Nintendo points system they have concocted.
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Gee he goes all Brighton when he pronounces ‘designed’.
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I'm sure the saints will do a 180 when guns like Farrey Ray or that other player from the early 00's have sons. 
mighty_lions
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the system has changed, strange complaining going on
mighty_lions
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maybe they waiting for the Riewoldt loughnan baby jesusI'm sure the saints will do a 180 when guns like Farrey Ray or that other player from the early 00's have sons.
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Bullshit.
Having priority access to the best talent and getting discounts on drafting them is a much bigger advantage than having to travel a few hours for the grand final.
See, it’s working already
mighty_lions
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the father son rule is the same for everyone.....GWS and Gold Coast have the disadvantage only
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To a club with three All Australian father sons and one NGA player lmao
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we haven't had any father sons until now, say hi to jack for me you pelican
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Father/son rule is great for the game and club supporters. It's not all superstars, you're more likely to get an average or below average player than genuine guns.
Good luck to the lions and the Ashcroft brothers, love to see it. It's an added bonus that they're both guns.
Good luck to the lions and the Ashcroft brothers, love to see it. It's an added bonus that they're both guns.
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Wonder what his thoughts are on taking advantage of Northern clubs going through a crisis and offering peanuts for high draft picks.
Oh wait, didn’t Saints do that for Billy Longer?
Pretty amateur comments from an amateur club. No wonder professional outfits like Hawks will go past them.
Oh wait, didn’t Saints do that for Billy Longer?
Pretty amateur comments from an amateur club. No wonder professional outfits like Hawks will go past them.
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What a shocking president to have a sook on stage like that. St.Kilda have been incredibly unlucky with FS sure but that's no ones fault, just the luck of the draw.
If you want to talk acadamies that's one thing and clearly the AFL are looking into solutions to fair it up but father son complaints are bizarre to me, I'll never understand it.
Lions F/S's from 1997 up to 2021: Jonathan Brown (Tick), Shane Morrison (X) & Josh Clayton (X). What a rort! Since 1990 almost all clubs have benefited to a pretty solid degree if you go and have a look back. St.Kilda being the outlier.
The Saints didn't complain when they benefitted from players wanting to return to Victoria. So no the system is not setup to keep you down St.Kilda, you guys do that yourself by poor list management & club management.
If you want to talk acadamies that's one thing and clearly the AFL are looking into solutions to fair it up but father son complaints are bizarre to me, I'll never understand it.
Lions F/S's from 1997 up to 2021: Jonathan Brown (Tick), Shane Morrison (X) & Josh Clayton (X). What a rort! Since 1990 almost all clubs have benefited to a pretty solid degree if you go and have a look back. St.Kilda being the outlier.
The Saints didn't complain when they benefitted from players wanting to return to Victoria. So no the system is not setup to keep you down St.Kilda, you guys do that yourself by poor list management & club management.
