St Kilda v North Review

[gringo2011]

The ruck rule is clearly confusing. The way I see it you can either run in and jump at the contest or you stand under the toss of the ball and make body contact with your opponent. If both make the same choice there's not a problem.

However if one decides to run and jump at the contest and the other decides to stand under the toss of the ball and makes body contact with the jumper as he comes in then he is deemed as blocking. And when I say make body contact the umpires seem to have no problem with arms and hands being used.

How the hell is that rule going to work?

At one of the ruck contests Goldy had Hicks in headlock bent down at his waist but that was okay but don't stand still.

 

[BarkerFan]

Wait, why are you bringing up Whispers in the Sky? Do you really believe that AFL games are currently being rigged by AFL umpires?

Look regardless of whether it was the right call, I am saying that it should never have been down to that call. Had we played well in the first half we could have been 20+ points up at half time. It's pointless to look only at a single umpiring decision and say "that's why we lost" and ignore the multitude of mistakes we made in the first half which are somehow forgotten in the wake of a contentious umpiring decision towards the end of a match.

The complaint is not about 1 call... a 50-50 one that went against us (many times that same thing is not paid).. it was a series of calls in the last quarter where we ended up getting 6 less frees in the game than them... including a clear push of Hickey in a marking contest just prior to that one against him.. and a dive by Ziegell into Greshams legs given "too high" which should have been a free TO Gresham

If the number of frees per side was even at the end.. there would be no compliants.. I can see no reason, on the game, why we deserved 6 less frees than them.. just a few 50-50's were called against us but not too many for us.. and that difference can change a game

 

[StFly]

Wait, why are you bringing up Whispers in the Sky? Do you really believe that AFL games are currently being rigged by AFL umpires?

See Mav's tweet? In the response where infallible no, fair yes, reference was given to prior instance where this was also not the case as noted by several individuals not related to either club at the time.

Look regardless of whether it was the right call, I am saying that it should never have been down to that call. Had we played well in the first half we could have been 20+ points up at half time. It's pointless to look only at a single umpiring decision and say "that's why we lost" and ignore the multitude of mistakes we made in the first half which are somehow forgotten in the wake of a contentious umpiring decision towards the end of a match.

Oh I'm not for or against your discussion with Joffa, that was more in line with the second question you posed to him.

 

[George]

Mav is happy with his tweet, and is keeping it on Twitter.

Legendary stuff

 

[blktreacle]

love the commentary on that "mark" to north
lethal: "well done ... took Hickey out of the marking contest then, but ah he got away with it"

 

[Verdun]

love the commentary on that "mark" to north
lethal: "well done ... took Hickey out of the marking contest then, but ah he got away with it"

yep - Lethal had a very insightful call

 

[blktreacle]

Mav is happy with his tweet, and is keeping it on Twitter.

Legendary stuff

so he should, nothing wrong with it

besides if he gets a fine in I'll chip in to pay for it

 

[Hubnester]

Gotta be proud of the boys after their effort. Against the odds they will themselves to the comeback and fully deserved the win.

A few quiet players in the first half but by the end I would say we didn't have a passenger. Lonie, Minch, Gresh a little quiet if you look at the stats but all good involved in some good plays, particularly late. Shame they couldn't impact the scoreboard.

Webster, Dunstan... It would take me too long to list who I was impressed with. The team is really starting to gel, our younger players are starting to become more consistent and things are starting to click. Once we can really put it all together, become a little bit more composed and efficient... We're going to start winning these ones.

Heartbroken for the lads who fought so hard to claw their way back only to have it pinched from them in the dying stages. Hope they get fired up, use this loss as motivation and drive themselves to never let it happen again.

 

[Masquerade]

Mav is happy with his tweet, and is keeping it on Twitter.

Legendary stuff

Has someone asked him to delete it?

 

[George]

Has someone asked him to delete it?

Yes, but he wont... lol

 

[SAINTsincebirth]

THIS GUY! his f@#$n hardness and tackling! What a ripper player. PROUD!
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bring in Murdoch and put him in the mid field.

 

[dct66]

... And to top it off that idiot was allowed to stand there with his hands on his hips and run the last 20 seconds off the clock.. WHAT THE **** IS GOING ON AFL!!

I can only assume that the AFL thought the 30 shot clock on the screen after a mark inside the forward 50 would add to the excitement but all it has done is ensure that every player takes 27 seconds before they start their run up. Wood today was just the most obvious one I have seen. The AFL will will remove it, if not next week that certainly next year.

 

[Tommy Wigs]

Lot of negativity on that performance. It wasn't perfect and we ultimately lost again, but this is a long game. I liked the group of players who drove the comeback.

 

[CHBench]

Luke Dunstan you are an absolute champion.

Heroic effort, wouldn't have gotten back in the game without his 4th quarter performance.

To see how much he cared at the end gives me so much faith that he, and the rest of these blokes, will get us to the top

Couldn't have a more fitting player wearing the 7.

I think Lukey took the loss harder than anyone on this board.
Was great to see, really endearing to see so much raw emotion and passion. Hopefully not much fanfare is made about it in the media

 

[Geary Is GOAT]

In other news, I'm gonna need a gif of Jimmy Webster molesting Waite

 

[Joffaboy]

Yes, but he wont... lol

He will never get a free again.

The umpires are small minded vindictive little people

 

[Glen Buterol]

We played ok especially in the last 15 mins. North are better than us however I can't recall a worse 7-0 team. They'll get found out soon enough & bow out in another prelim.

 

[L_W_P]

If you look back at the last quarter there were about 25 potential frees not paid. The technical calls that have not impeded anyones ability to contest the ball don't need to be called at really important times. That is an exceptionally poor judgement call that ruined the look and feel of one of the better games of the year. It's not their job to be a player in the outcome of the contest.

If they dont need to be called at really important times then when should they be called?

The umpires job is to pay the free kicks they see. The ump saw Hickey take his eyes off the ball, make front on contact with Goldstein and impede his jump in the ruck contest.

Was it a 50/50 call that could be let go? Sure. Was is wrong of the ump to pay it? No. Should the umpire have let it go because it was the last 2 minutes of a really close game? No ****ing way!

The umpire isnt there to impact the outcome bt design (although Troy Panell might be a different story) but to say that the Hickey free was a mistake because it impacted the outcome of the game is laughable.

Hypothetical for you - 2020 Grand Final. Saints vs GWS. Paddy McCartin marks the ball 55m out as the final siren goes. Saints down by 4 points.

As Paddy is walking back to the top of his run up Tom Scully walks through the 10m zone. Hell, he wanders across the mark.

Now Paddy hasnt even started his run up. Scully has had NO impact on the shot for goal. Should the umpire ignore paying a technical 50m penalty because it will influence the outcome of the contest?

 

[King_Steele]

Yes, but he wont... lol

Good.

Something needs to be said. rather than swept under the carpet. week after week.

 

[TheKanga]

Umpiring was fine the vast majority of the game. Hickey Free was there. Our inside 50's were shit house the entire match. Umpire whinging is embarrassing.

Apologies for the intrustion
Only read the first page of this thread so far.
But i was shocked at how sensible and classy the posts here were regarding the Goldy free kick.
Compared to on the main board people are saying the umps had money on us and it's a conspiracy, etc.

Anyway credit to the fight you guys showed.
Heart was racing in those final mins.

 

[Joffaboy]

So why did they not pay the potential 5 frees in the lead up to the onecthey did?

Do they just pick and choose when they will pay one?

 

[George]

He will never get a free again.

The umpires are small minded vindictive little people

I've been chatting to Mav the last hour, he is a really laid back bloke, he loves the club, I think things will turn when we are winning more games.

 

[gringo2011]

If they dont need to be called at really important times then when should they be called?

The umpires job is to pay the free kicks they see. The ump saw Hickey take his eyes off the ball, make front on contact with Goldstein and impede his jump in the ruck contest.

Was it a 50/50 call that could be let go? Sure. Was is wrong of the ump to pay it? No. Should the umpire have let it go because it was the last 2 minutes of a really close game? No ******* way!

The umpire isnt there to impact the outcome bt design (although Troy Panell might be a different story) but to say that the Hickey free was a mistake because it impacted the outcome of the game is laughable.

Hypothetical for you - 2020 Grand Final. Saints vs GWS. Paddy McCartin marks the ball 55m out as the final siren goes. Saints down by 4 points.

As Paddy is walking back to the top of his run up Tom Scully walks through the 10m zone. Hell, he wanders across the mark.

Now Paddy hasnt even started his run up. Scully has had NO impact on the shot for goal. Should the umpire ignore paying a technical 50m penalty because it will influence the outcome of the contest?

To tell you the truth I wouldn't have known there was anything wrong with that passage of play and would be stoked to get a soft **** free like that- it's like saying you fell off your bike imagine if you fell from a plane. I'm sure there wouldn't have been many Roos fans who knew that he was "blocking".

 

[Joffaboy]

Apologies for the intrustion
Only read the first page of this thread so far.
But i was shocked at how sensible and classy the posts here were regarding the Goldy free kick.
Compared to on the main board people are saying the umps had money on us and it's a conspiracy, etc.

Anyway credit to the fight you guys showed.
Heart was racing in those final mins.

It wasn't there and we were cheatedcout of the game by the umpires.

There you go just for balance

 

[Joffaboy]

I've been chatting to Mav the last hour, he is a really laid back bloke, he loves the club, I think things will turn when we are winning more games.

Didnt for Schneider.