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There's been an odd turn around here, for the first 48 hours people were demanding all sorts of Old Testament style justice and now it's been dispensed it's an overreaction.

SHAME!!!

NATIONAL DISGRACE!!!

WON'T SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!


STONE THE BASTARD!!!!


NAH..........BETTER STILL.......CRUCIFY HIM!!!!.......TWICE!!!


*Later*


"OH *sob* ......it's so sad":rolleyes:
 

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Is 'real men' still a thing?

#toxicmasculinity

Smith and Bancroft have owned up, being honest and contrite and are serving their penance. Even Lehman fell on his sword for allowing the culture to exist and showing genuine sorrow for it.

What more do people f***ing want? I feel genuinely sorry for them because, well, people stuff up. When that happens all you can really hope for is that you/they take responsibility for it, serve your punishment as penance for it and move on.

I'm very interested to hear Warners take.
 
There's been an odd turn around here, for the first 48 hours people were demanding all sorts of Old Testament style justice and now it's been dispensed it's an overreaction.

Pretty standard for this sort of thing, hound them till they break them show some fake concern to alleviate any guilt you might feel then move onto the next target with a clear conscience.
 
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Every cloud has a silver lining, his new sponsors are loving the free exposure.
 
Did anyone else notice that, at Smith's press conference, while he pretended to cry, and looked like he was crying, there were no actual tears? His face remained dry the whole time. Did he fake cry?
Looked like the media adviser told him to shed a few tears to get the public behind him, but the harder he tried, the weirder it looked.
 

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The term 'real man' in itself is such a toxic masculine construct. He faced the music and expressed genuine emotion and remorse which a lot of 'real men' wouldn't be able to do.

Is 'real men' still a thing?

Disagree in that being a real man is toxic. It is about being a mature adult who owns their behavor and on that front Smith, Bancroft and Lehman have owned their parts, and as a result, there can still be a place in the game for them. Making an error is one thing but how you deal with the error is what really matters and those three seem to have handled it properly.
 
does anyone else feel that Smith is unfairly taking a lot of the blame for this especially in the light of these comments from Lehmann from a few weeks ago?


The whole camp knew about it and used these methods for a while.
Lehmann suddenly felt guilty that the other guys had been thrown under the bus , for something he probably organised or gave the go-ahead to.
 
The whole camp knew about it and used these methods for a while.
Lehmann suddenly felt guilty that the other guys had been thrown under the bus , for something he probably organised or gave the go-ahead to.

More likely it was pre-organised so he wouldn't implicated. If he was thrown in the same boat as the other 3 then a) you couldn't really deny the whole team knew about it and b) his future as a coach at all levels would pretty much be over.
 
He should resign immediately.

The 'other countries have done it' excuse is pathetic.

He has left the reputation of Australian Cricket in tatters and dealt a blow to the precarious future of Test Cricket.

A clean-out is the only acceptable answer.

Other countries have done and and got off light because that is the ICC penalty. ICC don't see it as a huge issue as it's only a level 2 offence, same as umpire dissent.
 
they will lose money in sales because the best player in the world isn't playing this summer

they have massively over done it

There's no I in team. If the public want to go and support the team they still can regardless of a player suspension or three.

Smith was severely overrated as captain and in way over his head with the responsibility.

Cricket attendance and tv ratings were already on a downward spiral.
 

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