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Catsace said:
Any other sides be so lop-sided from the old 'phone book' split like this?
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Carlton's team of 18 in R6 1902 begins with Joe Marr.

AFL Tables - Carlton v Fitzroy - Sat, 7-Jun-1902 3:00 PM - Match Stats

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Next "latest" first names are Herring, Healing, Hart, Harding & Hamilton.

In modern times the latest start is Adam Goodes in R16 2011.

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St.Kilda's teams in R1 & R7 1915 ended at Harry Moyes.

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Next are O'Brien, O'Halloran, Orchard, O'Rourke, Outram & Owen.

Earliest end to the alphabetic order in modern times is Darcy Parish, R16 2016.

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On the subject of player surnames, I was curious if there have been any club lists or even particular games that feature a number of players with surnames starting with the less common letters I, Q, U, X, Y & Z?
 
emuboy said:
On the subject of player surnames, I was curious if there have been any club lists or even particular games that feature a number of players with surnames starting with the less common letters I, Q, U, X, Y & Z?
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Hawthorn had an I and four Y's in 1958.

Richmond had an I and four Youngs in 1988.

I & Q - 224 games
I & U - 64
I & Y - 435
I & Z - 273
Q & U - 31
Q & Y - 163
Q & Z - 116
U & Y - 80
U & Z - 41
X & Z - 4
Y & Z - 248

I/Q/Y - 32
I/Q/Z - 27
I/U/Y - 10
I/U/Z - 10
I/Y/Z - 58
Q/U/Y - 2
Q/U/Z - 1
Q/Y/Z - 37
U/Y/Z - 5

I/Q/Y/Z - 10
I/U/Y/Z - 1
 
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Hawthorn had an I and four Y's in 1958.

Richmond had an I and four Youngs in 1988.

I & Q - 224 games
I & U - 64
I & Y - 435
I & Z - 273
Q & U - 31
Q & Y - 163
Q & Z - 116
U & Y - 80
U & Z - 41
X & Z - 4
Y & Z - 248

I/Q/Y - 32
I/Q/Z - 27
I/U/Y - 10
I/U/Z - 10
I/Y/Z - 58
Q/U/Y - 2
Q/U/Z - 1
Q/Y/Z - 37
U/Y/Z - 5

I/Q/Y/Z - 10
I/U/Y/Z - 1
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That's amazing, thanks Ron the Bear. I was curious about the Q/U/Z combination which came up only once, do you have any details on which game this was?
 
emuboy said:
That's amazing, thanks Ron the Bear. I was curious about the Q/U/Z combination which came up only once, do you have any details on which game this was?
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North would have had a handful of games with Zurhaar and Ziebell i'm sure. Essendon with Zerk-Thatcher and Zaharakis.
 
emuboy said:
There has obviously never been a football game played on Halloween (31st October), but if there ever was one by the scores this match between St. Kilda and Carlton in Round 10 2004 would be perfect:

St. Kilda 31.10-196 d. Carlton 13.10-88
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Had me check, what is the latest game in the season a game has been played

Before today
October 20 1923

So yeah, never a halloween game

But it made me wonder
October premiers. Will it be Collingwood

1909 - South Melbourne 4.14.38 def 4.12.36 Carlton
1910 - Collingwood 9.7.71 def 6.11.47 Carlton
1919 - Collingwood 11.12.78 def. 7.11.53 Richmond
1920 - Richmond 7.10.52 def. 5.5.35 Collingwood
1921 - Richmond 5.6.36 def. 4.8.32 Carlton
1922 - Fitzroy 11.13.79 def. 6.14.68 Collingwood
1923 - Essendon 8.15.63 def. 6.10.46 Fitzroy
1925 - Geelong 10.19.79 def. 9.15.69 Collingwood
1926 - Melbourne 17.17.119 def. 9.8.62 Collingwood
1927 - Collingwood 2.13.25 def. 1.7.13 Richmond
1930 - Collingwood 14.16.100 def. 9.16.70 Geelong
1931 - Geelong 9.14.68 def. 7.6.48 Richmond
1932 - Richmond 13.14.92 def. 12.11.83 Carlton
1934 - Richmond 19.14.128 def. 12.17.89 South Melbourne
1935 - Collingwood 11.12.78 def. 7.16.58 South Melbourne
1936 - Collingwood 11.23.89 def. 10.18.78 South Melbourne
1946 - Essendon 22.18.150 def. 18.9.87 Melbourne
1948 - Melbourne 10.9.69 drew 7.27.69 Essendon
1948r - Melbourne 13.11.89 def. 7.8.50 Essendon
1963 - Geelong 15.19.109 def. 8.12.60 Hawthorn
1972 - Carlton 28.9.177 def 22.18.150 Richmond
1977r - North Melbourne 21.25.151 def. 19.10.124 Collingwood
1990 - Collingwood 13.11.89 def. 5.11.41 Essendon
1994 - West Coast 20.23.143 def. 8.15.63 Geelong
2010r - Collingwood 16.12.108 def. 7.1.52 St Kilda
2011 - Geelong 18.11.119 def. 12.9.81 Collingwood
2015 - Hawthorn 16.11.107 def 8.13.61 West Coast
2016 - Western Bulldogs 13.11.89 def. 10.7.67 Sydney

So October premier tally
8 - Collingwood
4 - Richmond
4 - Geelong
2 - Melbourne
1 - Fitzroy
1 - Essendon
1 - South Melbourne
1 - Carlton
1 - North Melbourne
1 - West Coast
1 - Hawthorn
1 - Western Bulldogs
 
Despite the 16-minute quarters, this year's grand final aggregate of 131 is only 8 less than last year's aggregate of 139.
 
Joel Selwood & Harry Taylor join Len Thompson with the most Finals losses by a player in VFL/ AFL history on 16 apiece.

Selwood has now played in 34 finals, just 1 behind Burgoyne on 35 & 5 behind Tuck on 39....Taylor has played in 31 Finals in equal 4th Spot with Gordon Coventry.
 
Longest droughts for premiership coaches

326 Dan Minogue
320 Tom Hafey
268 John Worsfold
250 Jock McHale
242 Ron Barassi
211 Chris Scott
207 Kevin Sheedy
191 Dick Reynolds
186 John Longmire
184 Paul Roos

Chris Scott on 211 now equal with Brad.
 
Highest games totals where last game was a grand final.

GamesPlayerClubretirement-grand finalresult
426Michael TuckHawthorn1991won
357Gary Ablett jrGeelong2020lost
356Bruce DoullCarlton1986lost
332Leigh MatthewsHawthorn1985lost
320Dick ReynoldsEssendon1951lost
318Marcus AshcroftBrisbane Lions2003won
306Gordon CoventryCollingwood1937lost
306Alastair LynchBrisbane Lions2004lost
305Shane CrawfordHawthorn2008won
304Russell GreeneHawthorn1988won
 
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Premierships as captain

4 - Syd Coventry snr,* Dick Reynolds, Michael Tuck
3 - Allan La Fontaine*, John Nicholls, Michael Voss, Luke Hodge, Trent Cotchin*

* no losing GF's
 
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7 of the last 8 flags have been won by a Rioli in the team.

Is there another surname that has a better record across 8 years than this?
 
Dr Awkward said:
7 of the last 8 flags have been won by a Rioli in the team.

Is there another surname that has a better record across 8 years than this?
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Neesham 7 in 11 years in the WAFL 83-93 is pretty good for one person [Gerard]. Best in an 8 year patch was 5.

Shame he couldn't bring that to Freo.
 
Dr Awkward said:
7 of the last 8 flags have been won by a Rioli in the team.

Is there another surname that has a better record across 8 years than this?
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Johnson (6) the next best 1997-03. There were two Johnsons in 2000, so 7 individual medals in 7 years.

Plenty of 5's at Melbourne through the Norm Smith era

Adams 1955-60
Barassi 1955-60
Beckwith 1955-60
Hart 1997-03
Johnson 1904-08
Johnson 1955-60 (3 Johnsons in 1960, 7 in total)
Johnson 2000-07 (2 Johnsons in 2000, 6 in total)
Kennedy 1983-89
Lord 1957-64 (2 Lords in 1963, 6 in total)
Mithen 1955-60
Ridley 1955-60
Smith 2012-16
Williams 1952-59
 
There have been AFL players with every letter of the alphabet, but when was the last time there was a premiership player with a surname for each letter?

As per the list below, 20 have occurred from 2015 onwards, 1 letter a little way back in 2012, 3 letters not for many years and 2 never:

A 2020
B 2020
C 2020
D 2018
E 2020
F 2015
G 2020
H 2020
I 1977
J 2018
K 2018
L 2020
M 2020
N 2020
O 2012
P 2020
Q 1968
R 2020
S 2020
T 2017
U None
V 2020
W 2016
X None
Y 2018
Z 1934

If you were curious, the players for the letters that haven't come up for a while are Steven Icke (North Melbourne 1977), Ryan O'Keefe (Sydney Swans 2012), Bryan Quirk (Carlton 1968) and Eric Zesch (Richmond 1934). Zesch, who was also a Tigers' premiership player in 1932, has the distinction of being the only player whose surname started with Z to play in a premiership team.
 
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"Zesch, who was also a Tigers' premiership player in 1932, has the distinction of being the only player whose surname started with Z to play in a premiership team."

Another interesting fact about Zschech's career is that the four consecutive grand finals he appeared in between 1931 and 1934 resulted in alternating wins and losses - 1931 (loss), 1932 (win), 1933 (loss) and 1934 (win). Has any other played done this?
 
GrahamClayton said:
<Emuboy>
"Zesch, who was also a Tigers' premiership player in 1932, has the distinction of being the only player whose surname started with Z to play in a premiership team."

Another interesting fact about Zschech's career is that the four consecutive grand finals he appeared in between 1931 and 1934 resulted in alternating wins and losses - 1931 (loss), 1932 (win), 1933 (loss) and 1934 (win). Has any other played done this?
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You would need to be looking at teams who had sustained periods of grand final appearances to get consecutive alternations. Surely there are players from North Melbourne's 1970s teams when they had 1974 (lost), 1975 (won,) 1976 (lost), 1977 (won) and 1978 (lost).
In recent times Lance Franklin went 2008 (won), 2012 (lost), 2013 (won), 2014 (lost) but they were not four consecutive years.
 
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Another interesting fact about Zschech's career is that the four consecutive grand finals he appeared in between 1931 and 1934 resulted in alternating wins and losses - 1931 (loss), 1932 (win), 1933 (loss) and 1934 (win). Has any other played done this?
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Hawthorn went loss, win, loss, win from 1985-1988.
Without going over the teams in detail, I would be fairly confident that at least these players were in each GF:
Tuck, Mew, Ayres, Dipper, Brereton, Langford, Greene, Kennedy.
 
Tom Hickey was today traded from the West Coast Eagles to Sydney, and as soon as he plays his debut match for the Swans next year he will become the first player to have played senior AFL football in four different states, Hickey having previously played for the Gold Coast in their early years and then St Kilda.

There have been a number of players who have played for clubs in three different states, but never four.
 

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