Steve Harmison

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Stripes666 said:
I think he will be the singly biggest threat to Australia this coming series.

The single biggest threat to Australia in this coming series is the weather. If it rains England will escape with a 4-0 loss.

Harmison is the worst bowler i have seen. And i am including that kid i played against in U13/a's who bowled four wides in a row.
Why?
Because Harmy in his first match in Australia (2002 at Lilac Hill) bowled 7 wides in a row and 16 wides for the game. He left the field for 'treatment' after his 14 delivery fourth over.

...

to be honest -- that guy who bowled four wides in a row was Englands first choice bowler but he had to pull out because he went to Marist and was in year 7.
 
How harmison got to number one in the world is beyond me... i think his statistics speak for themselves when talkin about harmison being a fantastic bowler...
 

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Sanguinarius said:
changing the topic? classic case of "my argument is ****"
Changing the topic? I was just providing a perfectly good example of how Harmison ****s on Lee as a Test bowler. Harmison and Lee are compared all the time on this site, and still somehow Lee is considered a bigger threat :thumbsdown:
 
Sanguinarius said:
so you agree that Lee would fit in well with the English one day side? :rolleyes:
:confused::confused: ODI cricket, sorry i dont remember saying anything about that?

I would love Lee in our ODI side, he is a great One Day bowler, what side in the world wouldnt want him in there ODI side? :confused:

But i wasn't talking about Lee in One Dayers was I? You wernt changing the topic were you? Classic case of "The arguement of Lee > Harmison in Test match cricket" is a **** house one. :eek:

You couldnt have ****ed up more with consecutive posts then you did there.
 
Browney2006 said:
Changing the topic? I was just providing a perfectly good example of how Harmison ****s on Lee as a Test bowler. Harmison and Lee are compared all the time on this site, and still somehow Lee is considered a bigger threat :thumbsdown:

you'd hope so, Harmison leads the English attack - or at least he's supposed to. Lee on the other hand, if what, our third or fourth bowler?

and as for comparison, the only thing they have in common is they're both **** away from home. Personally I find the comparison fairly accurate in that respect. Otherwise they are completly differnt bowlers. :rolleyes:
 
Browney2006 said:
:confused::confused: ODI cricket, sorry i dont remember saying anything about that?

I would love Lee in our ODI side, he is a great One Day bowler, what side in the world wouldnt want him in there ODI side? :confused:

But i wasn't talking about Lee in One Dayers was I? You wernt changing the topic were you? Classic case of "The arguement of Lee > Harmison in Test match cricket" is a **** house one. :eek:

You couldnt have ****ed up more with consecutive posts then you did there.


.... you can't seriously be that thick....:confused:
 
Sanguinarius said:
you'd hope so, Harmison leads the English attack - or at least he's supposed to. Lee on the other hand, if what, our third or fourth bowler?

What are you on about? So you think Harmsion leads the English attack, well i will tell you for a start that i would rate him our 4th best FAST BOWLER. I dont know what sort of pathetic arguement you have going by trying to pass off that Harmison is our number 1 bowler. And sorry Lee isn't your third or fourth bowlerr at all, he is clearly your third best bowler and miles ahead of the 4th option (does anyone acutally know who this is yet??)

Sanguinarius said:
and as for comparison, the only thing they have in common is they're both **** away from home. Personally I find the comparison fairly accurate in that respect. Otherwise they are completly differnt bowlers. :rolleyes:
I wouldnt call them completely different bowlers, but they are different, but im only drawing this comparison because they are always compared on this site because of there similair records.
 
Sanguinarius said:
.... you can't seriously be that thick....:confused:
Care to actually post a response? Or just take the easy way out an attempt and result to abuse, just like many others do on here?? And dont change the topic to Pyjama cricket either ;)
 
Browney2006 said:
Care to actually post a response? Or just take the easy way out an attempt and result to abuse, just like many others do on here?? And dont change the topic to Pyjama cricket either ;)

I think he was more referring to you saying Lee is a proven hack and him saying that means he'd fit well in the England side, which in effect says the England team's a bunch of proven hacks, too
 

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Has there been any evidence that harmison is a good bowler yet, or are we just gonna stick with, "number one in the world, must be a great bowler" argument... any proof or statistics...
 
Browney2006 said:
Care to actually post a response? Or just take the easy way out an attempt and result to abuse, just like many others do on here?? And dont change the topic to Pyjama cricket either ;)

Cooldude said:
I think he was more referring to you saying Lee is a proven hack and him saying that means he'd fit well in the England side, which in effect says the England team's a bunch of proven hacks, too

seems as though everyone else was able to figure it out....
 
Browney2006 said:
And sorry Lee isn't your third or fourth bowlerr (sic) at all, he is clearly your third best bowler and miles ahead of the 4th option (does anyone acutally know who this is yet??)

Ok, I'm giving up on you and if you really want to know why you can read this sentence back to yourself.
 
So i take it that there is no statistical agrument even implying that harmison is a "fantastic" bowler...

How about this.... A sign of a "fantastic" bowler...

The first ball that Steve Harmison delivered in this Champions Trophy, with Virender Sehwag on strike and two staggered slips in place, could probably end up as the widest wide in the tournament, and maybe even in the history of one-day cricket. Had a third leg-slip been in place, the inevitable five wides might have just been averted.

and thats just the opening paragraph to this article....

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/iccct2006/content/current/story/263697.html
 
The only teams harmison has bowled "well" against, are the West indies, New Zealand and the Bangers... hardly top sides in world cricket...

good bowlers bowl well against good teams...
 
shouldnt a "fantastic" player be able to bowl against the worlds best...


SJ Harmison 4.5 0 45 1 9.31 (1nb, 1w)
 
Once again.

Hes not a ODI bowler, your not proving anything to anyone bringing up ODI stats, its like saying Brett Lee is a good Test bowler and bring up his ODI stats, no point.
 
What does being a Test match bowler rather than an ODI bowler have to do with being too much of a ******* to keep the ball on the damn pitch? That makes no sense.

Some of the Aussies in this thread are being a bit too harsh about this guy. He's not as inconsistant as some are claiming him to be, and good spells from him can and have ripped through many a side.

But when he's bad.. oh boy. No-one comes close in terms of sucktitude when they're having a bad game.
 
The trouble with Harmy is that he hasn't played Domestic OD cricket for about 2 years with injuries and playing for England, i'd like to see him not play ODI's next season in order to learn how to control the white ball, until then i'd drop him.
 

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