Play Nice Still no evidence against Melbourne re: tanking

[demon_dynasty13]

All we have had this week is a series of laughable articles from such literary luminaries as Caroline Wilson, Jon Ralph, Jay Clark, Mark Robinson and other battlers that struggle to string two words together.

All they have given us is crap articles filled with blatant lies, smut and innuendo, quotes from bitter ex players that prove nothing, unnamed sources, vague unproven quotes, unsubstantiated claims, blatant lies, laughable speculation and pure hyperbole.


Show us a paper trail. Show us emails that prove Melbourne threw games.

Show us proof. Show us evidence.

Oh wait - there is none, and there never will be.

Playing players out of position is part of footy. Changing tactics midway through a season is something every coach has a right to do. Putting players in for surgery early is smart, if your team is out of contention.

So to Caroline Wilson and the other media morons who are trying to milk this for all its worth and stick the boot into the MFC at every opportunity - show us something concrete, or please kindly **** off.

Until then, keep frothing at the mouth over this non-story.

 

[Malifice]

Show us a paper trail. Show us emails that prove Melbourne threw games.

It doesnt matter if you threw games.

It only matter that you tried to, with the intent of doing so.

Which quite clearly, you did.

Show us proof. Show us evidence.

Your CEO and Board members are on record as directing the club to lose games to secure a priority pick, and attempting to hide such a directive from the AFL by conducting a secret meeting.

Your coach admitted to doing 'the best he could to secure that priority pick' presumably in accordance with that directive.

Your players had a revolt because they knew what was going on.

There are literally dozens of witnesses to the above.

Give it up, youre screwed.

 

[daniel_4tw]

Witness testimonies isn't evidence now? Just because you can't find the murder weapon doesn't mean you can't convict.

 

[Drummer_19]

Keep on fighting the good fight bro.

 

[Black Diamond]

Show us a paper trail. Show us emails that prove Melbourne threw games.

Show us proof. Show us evidence.

Oh wait - there is none, and there never will be.

As the AFL continues its exhaustive and potentially explosive inquiry it has emerged that league-appointed IT experts moved into the Demons' headquarters last month to investigate club email trails dating back to 2009 and possibly earlier.​

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/jobs-on-line-dees-warned-20121101-28mx2.html#ixzz2B0o2LOyf​

 

[demon_dynasty13]

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Your CEO and Board members are on record as directing the club to lose games to secure a priority pick, and attempting to hide such a directive from the AFL by conducting a secret meeting.

Your coach admitted to doing 'the best he could to secure that priority pick' presumably in accordance with that directive.

Your players had a revolt because they knew what was going on.

There are literally dozens of witnesses to the above.

Yeah, keep taking Caroline Wilsons tabloid articles as gospel.

Good work.

 

[galindez]

you should be raging at your club's administration, not the media

 

[demon_dynasty13]

you should be raging at your club's administration, not the media

I will rage at them when there is something to rage at.

Right now theres nothing but speculation from shitty journalists.

 

[Malifice]

Yeah, keep taking Caroline Wilsons tabloid articles as gospel.

Good work.

Youre saying she's lying?

Youre saying that there was no directive from your administration to tank, that no players, administrators and coaches have come forth/ rolled over with corroborated evidence of such a directive (and meeting) and there was no player revolt?

Its all just made up?

Man, you are in for a rude shock in a few days.

 

[Numbered Days]

Playing players out of position is part of footy. .

Why have a thread saying there is no evidence and then post some? It's not proof but is certainly evidence ... along with all the other stuff you are choosing not to believe ...

 

[Bosk]

Witness testimonies isn't evidence now?

/thread

 

[Bleeeeeeeeep]

If the journos are lying i would expect a law suit from Connolly and co.

 

[Tulip]

If the journos are lying i would expect a law suit from Connolly and co.

Yep. I don't think they're lying myself, but it will be serious if they are.

 

[swansfan51]

Where/when is this demon dynasty your username refers to? You won 1 match for the entire year against a club that wasn't GWS or the Gold Coast. I guess the dynasty must be coming from all the high draft picks, as that strategy has lead to recent success.

 

[100action]

melbourne football club pepperth thine angii

 

[Northworth]

Do you really think that if Wilson was just making this stuff up - about the AFL's investigation - and it was COMPLETELY fabricated and incorrect - that the AFL wouldn't correct the public record? Has there been any down-playing remark from the league saying - "this is all speculation and it is far too soon to comment, but it will all be revealed shortly." Or laughably "The AFL has complete confidence that the Melbourne Football Club has acted appropriately and the investigation will confirm that."

No

There has been nothing.

Andy D is just too shy to front the media?

Or - more plausibly, the AFL has gathered the evidence and is now selectively releasing info to the Age/HS in a gradual, case-building fashion to build momentum and pressure remaining witnesses to join in?

Which is more plausible?

 

[The Prosecutor]

All we have had this week is a series of laughable articles from such literary luminaries as Caroline Wilson, Jon Ralph, Jay Clark, Mark Robinson and other battlers that struggle to string two words together.

All they have given us is crap articles filled with blatant lies, smut and innuendo, quotes from bitter ex players that prove nothing, unnamed sources, vague unproven quotes, unsubstantiated claims, blatant lies, laughable speculation and pure hyperbole.


Show us a paper trail. Show us emails that prove Melbourne threw games.

Show us proof. Show us evidence.

Oh wait - there is none, and there never will be.

Playing players out of position is part of footy. Changing tactics midway through a season is something every coach has a right to do. Putting players in for surgery early is smart, if your team is out of contention.

So to Caroline Wilson and the other media morons who are trying to milk this for all its worth and stick the boot into the MFC at every opportunity - show us something concrete, or please kindly **** off.

Until then, keep frothing at the mouth over this non-story.

I think the likes of your former coach, former recruiting officer, three players and a few other personnel is pretty damning.

Are you saying Melbourne didn't tank?

 

[SaintsManMat]

LOL Melbourne fans on the back foot....You guys are stuffed, like others have said, aim your anger at the melbourne board, not the media and big footy

 

[Hoffy95]

It's going to be almost impssoble for the AFL to prove that Melbourne deliberately lost games because they've shown an unprecedented ability to be consistently terrible at football and lose games for years now.

There should be an investigation into the opposition every time they get beaten by Melbourne instead.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

This tanking thing is getting ugly, but I really admire the OP's front foot approach. Footy clubs need passionate fans like this.

 

[Quivorir]

And this is why I love Melbourne fans, in every thread they do this. It is hilarious. Cant wait to see them do a 180 and try to justify the tanking when they are found out.

 

[BananaOnTheRun]

denial, the first stage of grief. just have a cry and you'll feel better.

 

[Blue1980]

Their screwed simply because they were too dumb to cover it up and have left a large amount of evidence.

Also Schwab and Connolly being incompetent tools who have pissed people off has led to people showing no loyalty towards them.

Other clubs tanked but were at least smart enough to keep it to just a few quiet words not organise code names for secret meetings.

 

[IanW]

The level of self-delusion is amazing.

 

[Matching Mole]

There should be an investigation into the opposition every time they get beaten by Melbourne instead.

Two years later we won the flag. Tanking works!

N.B. Sitting in the crowd and watching this game was among the more surreal, baffling, and infuriating afternoons of my existence.