Sunraysia Football league

[GeeBruz]

Wellsy watched a little bit of your game on the weekend and it seemed as though some of your more senior players just don't look interested. It was late in the game so maybe just a bit buggered. Even if that was the case still doesn't set a good example for the young blokes though.

Good to see Simmo in the best!

 

[Rabbito]

How's Bennet Deale slotted in out there? High hopes earlier in the piece haven't heard of him since?

 

[Wells Train]

How's Bennet Deale slotted in out there? High hopes earlier in the piece haven't heard of him since?

Haven't seen much of him playing. We go into the rooms at quarter time so i don't get to see much. Is pretty vocal at training a seems to give 100 percent. I'd say fitness would be the biggest hurdle although has been doing most trainings of late.

 

[Wells Train]

Wellsy watched a little bit of your game on the weekend and it seemed as though some of your more senior players just don't look interested. It was late in the game so maybe just a bit buggered. Even if that was the case still doesn't set a good example for the young blokes though.

Good to see Simmo in the best!

Yeah little simmo is hard at it and relentless. I think in the last quarter we were made to pay for our own pitfalls. We went so hard getting it back to i think 18 points just before 3 quarter time after being 50 odd down. It gets a little disheartening to give them 5 goals all day from careless and undisciplined acts aswell. Also with such a young side a physical game (as it turned into in the 3rd) can take its toll on younger bodies. We don't actually have too many "senior players" agewise with only half a dozen or so of us over 25 years old. We did gel a lot better and with fritz and davis to come back this week hopefully we will continue to improve. Should be a big build up this week to play the tiges out home. Need that win......

 

[Dirty Jamahl]

Bit worried at 1/4 time! Finished the game off well though. 11 goals should give the boys some confidence heading into the big one this week versus Irymple. How did Jason go at the tribunal last night?

 

[zinger]

Thats embarassing, Elstone...........

 

[godsofrichmond]

How's Bennet Deale slotted in out there? High hopes earlier in the piece haven't heard of him since?

Im not sure how high the hopes where.? Do you know him Rabbito as i see you take a fair interest in the Mallee League aswell, where he is from.
I can tell you that he has secured a position at center half bench at the moment. Hopefully as the season goes on he can get some more game time.

 

[Skeeterman]

Thats embarassing, Elstone...........

I thought the article was well written and made some very good points but basically he is saying that it was deliberate and that is not on.
With conflicting views from 5 metres away I don't understand how he gives his opinion from another state.
Any news on the investigation or if there is even one being conducted still?

 

[GeeBruz]

Yeah little simmo is hard at it and relentless. I think in the last quarter we were made to pay for our own pitfalls. We went so hard getting it back to i think 18 points just before 3 quarter time after being 50 odd down. It gets a little disheartening to give them 5 goals all day from careless and undisciplined acts aswell. Also with such a young side a physical game (as it turned into in the 3rd) can take its toll on younger bodies. We don't actually have too many "senior players" agewise with only half a dozen or so of us over 25 years old. We did gel a lot better and with fritz and davis to come back this week hopefully we will continue to improve. Should be a big build up this week to play the tiges out home. Need that win......

Should be a pretty good game! Hopefully you blokes don't fade out like the South game! Didn't pay much attention to Mildura last week, did Slorach play? If so did anyone give him s hit?

 

[Rabbito]

Im not sure how high the hopes where.? Do you know him Rabbito as i see you take a fair interest in the Mallee League aswell, where he is from.
I can tell you that he has secured a position at center half bench at the moment. Hopefully as the season goes on he can get some more game time.

Eariler on some from Merbein talked him up as a recruit, when I questioned it, I was informed he'd kicked 100 goals in jnr, even beat a young jared arentz to an u/16 goal kicking award. I know bennett well he is a computer head, I was surpised he got a kick when he was younger!!
Not having a go at him, I was having a shoot at who put him up as a recruit. Bennett's a good bloke.

 

[Rabbito]

I thought the article was well written and made some very good points but basically he is saying that it was deliberate and that is not on.
With conflicting views from 5 metres away I don't understand how he gives his opinion from another state.
Any news on the investigation or if there is even one being conducted still?

Agree! I too was a little quick off the mark pointing the finger, i wonder how long ago it was written, I know it's in todays paper but when was it written? Was he asked to comment? or was it off he's own bat?

 

[Back Pocket Assassin]

I thought the article was well written and made some very good points but basically he is saying that it was deliberate and that is not on.
With conflicting views from 5 metres away I don't understand how he gives his opinion from another state.
Any news on the investigation or if there is even one being conducted still?

I thought it was a pretty inflammatory article and that he has pre-empted the results of any investigation. He must have good eyesight if he saw it from Adelaide. It read as a very negative article and once again has basically accused the Demons coaching staff of ordering "the hit".

 

[deano46]

I thought it was a pretty inflammatory article and that he has pre-empted the results of any investigation. He must have good eyesight if he saw it from Adelaide. It read as a very negative article and once again has basically accused the Demons coaching staff of ordering "the hit".

I actually thought it was a very good article the only people who wont like it are Mildura people. Im not associated with either club but all i will say is accident or not Alvey has a broken jaw and that means there should be a suspension. Perhaps Mr Alvey is the only one who can and should answer this and tell us the truth as to how he sustained his injury. No doubt he will have his say.

 

[Skeeterman]

Deano, we all said the majority of the article was very good but the only critique would be that it reads as though he is pointing the finger which he is clearly not in position to.
As far as suspension what a stupid statement....... yes if he was dealt with outside the rules fine the player should pay a penalty, a substantial one at that due to the time Alvey will miss.
But for example what if someone is slung into an opponents knee and injures themselves..... should the opponent then be suspended just because the player is seriously injured. Think before posting!

 

[island breeze]

for daniel elstone's letter in the paper today to be labelled 'embarressing' is pretty disappointing. he wrote the piece on the weekend just gone so he, as has everyone else, had time to take in all the happenings of the last ten days or so and have a well imformed view. ofcourse he didn't see the incident but niether did most of you, but its fine for you to all make judgement on alvey, carmichael, and the investigation. he didn't condemn the young dee or say he was guilty, he had an oppinion on what has happened to many gun country players and more recently alvey in the first 2 games this year. its a view shared by most normal people in this league (except probably most of mildura). and personally knowing daniel pretty, i'd say he wrote this article as he loves his footy, the mildura area and the league, and wants it heading in the right direction. what he has done could only go towards achieving that. if, as it has been hinted, mildura gave orders in regards to alvey, then not only alvey is a victim here but so too is carmichael.

 

[Roar38]

Iv any coach ordered that sort of stuff then the player should be a bit smatter then that an relieze its wrong, i know one of the coachs at mildura pretty well and if he ordered such it would be completly out of charecter, i know there are always 2 sides to every storey, but reading some of teh stuff on here there are more then 2 sides to this storey. maybe ith issue should be dropped an lets get back to footy

 

[Delray]

I actually thought it was a very good article the only people who wont like it are Mildura people. Im not associated with either club but all i will say is accident or not Alvey has a broken jaw and that means there should be a suspension. Perhaps Mr Alvey is the only one who can and should answer this and tell us the truth as to how he sustained his injury. No doubt he will have his say.

Deano that is absolute crap get with it!! If u were not there please dont comment u didnt see it and u dont know how the injury happend. Now i wasnt there but from what i have been told, all the Mildura people say it was fair and all of the W/Worth people say it was dirty and thats the only thing that the investigation is going to find, 2 conflicting stories.

Broken jaw does not = suspension. In most cases yes but not in all cases. Football is a contact sport and people do get hurt and somethimes its within the rules.

And Island Please Mark Alvey is not the only Gun Recruit/ Gun Player the SFL has ever Had.

Chis Leng - R/Vale
Paul Evans - R/Vale
Don Falvo - R/Vale
R Lindsay - R/Cliffs - Imps
D DeAngelis - Iry
B Eaton - Iry
S Garner - Imps
B Hards - Imps
J Arentz - W/Worth
L Gathercole - Sth
McMasters - Merb
J Ansty - Mild
D Obree - Mild

I have no doubt that the attention that these players have received over the years is no different.

 

[island breeze]

Deano that is absolute crap get with it!! If u were not there please dont comment u didnt see it and u dont know how the injury happend. Now i wasnt there but from what i have been told, all the Mildura people say it was fair and all of the W/Worth people say it was dirty and thats the only thing that the investigation is going to find, 2 conflicting stories.

Broken jaw does not = suspension. In most cases yes but not in all cases. Football is a contact sport and people do get hurt and somethimes its within the rules.

And Island Please Mark Alvey is not the only Gun Recruit/ Gun Player the SFL has ever Had.

Chis Leng - R/Vale
Paul Evans - R/Vale
Don Falvo - R/Vale
R Lindsay - R/Cliffs - Imps
D DeAngelis - Iry
B Eaton - Iry
S Garner - Imps
B Hards - Imps
J Arentz - W/Worth
L Gathercole - Sth
McMasters - Merb
J Ansty - Mild
D Obree - Mild

I have no doubt that the attention that these players have received over the years is no different.

mate i agree, good players get more attention and thats football. the players you mentioned are all gun players but none of of them have come fresh from a 60-70 game afl career to their home town where not only will they have a large number of supporters, but obviously a number of people who would like to see him fail. i saw him play both games this season and he was under massive physical pressure both games. the guy was targeted, he has a damning report from a head doctor in melbourne about what happened to his jaw, mildura's story from what i've heard doesn't agree with it. surely evidence and experts opinion's can overcome some half baked mildura cover up story to save this young kid's reputation and justice prevail. i and all of us have said enough, lets now wait to hear the league's decision.

 

[Delray]

mate i agree, good players get more attention and thats football. the players you mentioned are all gun players but none of of them have come fresh from a 60-70 game afl career to their home town where not only will they have a large number of supporters, but obviously a number of people who would like to see him fail. i saw him play both games this season and he was under massive physical pressure both games. the guy was targeted, he has a damning report from a head doctor in melbourne about what happened to his jaw, mildura's story from what i've heard doesn't agree with it. surely evidence and experts opinion's can overcome some half baked mildura cover up story to save this young kid's reputation and justice prevail. i and all of us have said enough, lets now wait to hear the league's decision.

True True. Mark is a great footballer and extremly professional i have no doubt he will be back. But without video evidence i cant see the investigation uncovering anything.


Thoughts on Rnd 4 winners???

I think Irymple V W/worth will be a cracker our side is starting to settle and the way the roos finished last week Im tipping no more then a goal either way.

Red Cliffs V Merbein: havent seen either team;

Sth V Mildura: Mildura 8 goals :top 2 in 07

Imps V R/Vale: if imps lose they go to 1:3. they would not be happy with that. i recon that will get them over the line B Hard still out is a massive loss still.

 

[godsofrichmond]

Eariler on some from Merbein talked him up as a recruit, when I questioned it, I was informed he'd kicked 100 goals in jnr, even beat a young jared arentz to an u/16 goal kicking award. I know bennett well he is a computer head, I was surpised he got a kick when he was younger!!
Not having a go at him, I was having a shoot at who put him up as a recruit. Bennett's a good bloke.

So can you give some insight into him. Did you play against him or know him since?

 

[Nakriel]

mate i agree, good players get more attention and thats football. the players you mentioned are all gun players but none of of them have come fresh from a 60-70 game afl career to their home town where not only will they have a large number of supporters, but obviously a number of people who would like to see him fail. i saw him play both games this season and he was under massive physical pressure both games. the guy was targeted, he has a damning report from a head doctor in melbourne about what happened to his jaw, mildura's story from what i've heard doesn't agree with it. surely evidence and experts opinion's can overcome some half baked mildura cover up story to save this young kid's reputation and justice prevail. i and all of us have said enough, lets now wait to hear the league's decision.

what has a 60-70 afl career have to do with it, I have seen gathercole belted from pillar to post, with no assistance from referees, spivey has copped the same, i am sure that falvo and the other players mentioned by delray are treated the same, mate the incident has happened, wenty have their side of it and mildura have their side of it, all this talk on this forum in relation to the incident will have no bearing on the outcome so just let it go and get on with it

 

[Dirty Jamahl]

for daniel elstone's letter in the paper today to be labelled 'embarressing' is pretty disappointing. he wrote the piece on the weekend just gone so he, as has everyone else, had time to take in all the happenings of the last ten days or so and have a well imformed view. ofcourse he didn't see the incident but niether did most of you, but its fine for you to all make judgement on alvey, carmichael, and the investigation. he didn't condemn the young dee or say he was guilty, he had an oppinion on what has happened to many gun country players and more recently alvey in the first 2 games this year. its a view shared by most normal people in this league (except probably most of mildura). and personally knowing daniel pretty, i'd say he wrote this article as he loves his footy, the mildura area and the league, and wants it heading in the right direction. what he has done could only go towards achieving that. if, as it has been hinted, mildura gave orders in regards to alvey, then not only alvey is a victim here but so too is carmichael.

Did I read the same article? Basically the article stated that the incident was illegal and that the senior coaches at Mildura instructed their players to target Mark illegally, I have some legal background and I assure you this could go further if pursued. Daniel and the paper might be in trouble.

 

[deposit]

what has a 60-70 afl career have to do with it, I have seen gathercole belted from pillar to post, with no assistance from referees, spivey has copped the same, i am sure that falvo and the other players mentioned by delray are treated the same, mate the incident has happened, wenty have their side of it and mildura have their side of it, all this talk on this forum in relation to the incident will have no bearing on the outcome so just let it go and get on with it

Please people move on

 

[Dirty Jamahl]

mate i agree, good players get more attention and thats football. the players you mentioned are all gun players but none of of them have come fresh from a 60-70 game afl career to their home town where not only will they have a large number of supporters, but obviously a number of people who would like to see him fail. i saw him play both games this season and he was under massive physical pressure both games. the guy was targeted, he has a damning report from a head doctor in melbourne about what happened to his jaw, mildura's story from what i've heard doesn't agree with it. surely evidence and experts opinion's can overcome some half baked mildura cover up story to save this young kid's reputation and justice prevail. i and all of us have said enough, lets now wait to hear the league's decision.

Just heard on the radio that the investigator found no malice in the incident and that it was an unfortunate accident. Word around the traps last night was that the umpire (not sure which one) backed the Mildura version stating he was in a perfect position. Lets hope this is put to rest now and both clubs (and the players involved) can move on.

 

[Dirty Jamahl]

I thought it was a pretty inflammatory article and that he has pre-empted the results of any investigation. He must have good eyesight if he saw it from Adelaide. It read as a very negative article and once again has basically accused the Demons coaching staff of ordering "the hit".

I wonder if any apologies will be forthcoming? I was here when Ash coached us and I do doubt any instructions were placed on the Demons. I spoke to a Mildura official yesterday who said their coaches are seething at being accused by the roos. Right, lets move on. Big one tomorrow the swallows. Isnt the rain lovely. I wonder what weeds I'll be able to grow now.