Suns in the Media - Part I

[SandyToes]

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If you want to read something that is very close to the bone and clearly has been well researched this is good

Reasonable info but the usual Warner mocking us as"laughing stock" just makes it "meh"
if you're a journalist using those cliches there's an agenda-and with him it's not about promoting us
He must have been licking his lips waiting to churn out those column inches
All Clubs have this stuff going on
Our continued lack of success makes us an easy target
You'd hope this sort of piece would at least give some credit to East for having there balls to finally take Cochrane on-and hoe it's about changing culture here- not team culture-organisational
To some extent it does by acknowledging the previous Board was basically a disaster control mechanism for Cochrane
I have to say though I thought we had lucked out getting Mark Evans
Now I'm starting to think he's just another Auld/Ashcroft
Using us to feather his nest and underperforming because he's not answerable to anyone
But I've rabbitted on about this for years
Who's answerable to who from the Board down?
Certainly we supporters have zero input and I have to say after 14 years and thousands of dollars forked over I'm starting to get over it
I'm hoping East can change that perception
Again I really don't understand this "botched"sacking ?
There was no way Dew could just be given to the end of the season
And despite the hand wringing there were no guarantees given to him
That was just the spin from Dew and his media mates

 

[kreglze]

Also going to Kennett for special comment really doesn't add to the article the gravitas that Warner thinks it does.

 

[MarcLocksCrustySock]

Was gonna purchase to get past the paywall then heard the name Warner. No thanks lol.

 

[thurls64]

I thought Evans was the goods, but know more about him now, he will need to go for us to reach our potential

 

[Supersuns]

Getting Jeff Kennetts opinion kills the whole article

 

[ajhgcs]

Getting Jeff Kennetts opinion kills the whole article

Definitely not ironic since Jeff's handling of the Alastair Clarkson to Sam Mitchell transition was so seamless and definitely not botched in any way.

The beat up of the Suns by the media is pretty ridiculous, how many coaches are sacked that are also "backed by the board"?

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[Young_Guns]

Mick Warner has a negative opinion of the Suns? I’m shocked.

However, as long as the AFL have their fingerprints all over the decision making of the club trying to manufacture things, nothing will change. They’ve got no idea when they actually have to work for something.

 

[Stroppy]

I saw the heading of the article and figured it had to be Warner.
Rinse and repeat.
He has some legitimate things to say about the establishment of the Suns and the decison making around that, and how much of a Circle Jerk the AFL has been, but can't seem to look past that. Only interested in sticking the boot in.

 

[SandyToes]

I thought Evans was the goods, but know more about him now, he will need to go for us to reach our potential

I think in retrospect my thoughts when he was appointed that he was responsible in some major way for Hawthorn's success was unfortunately back to front and that he would bring some magic beans blueprint formula for success were wildly optimistic
Front office at Hawthorn then could probably have been on autopilot
No-one wanted to leave.
The coffers were full.
Audi was buying cars for our players and their girlfriends
Now starting to think the challenges of building success here may be beyond him
Maybe just another rent seeker like Auld Ashcroft et al

 

[OB11]

I think in retrospect my thoughts when he was appointed that he was responsible in some major way for Hawthorn's success was unfortunately back to front and that he would bring some magic beans blueprint formula for success were wildly optimistic
Front office at Hawthorn then could probably have been on autopilot
No-one wanted to leave.
The coffers were full.
Audi was buying cars for our players and their girlfriends
Now starting to think the challenges of building success here may be beyond him
Maybe just another rent seeker like Auld Ashcroft et al

While I don't know much about what sort of job he's been doing I do recall that he was the guy who took King, Luko, Rowell and Anderson into his home when they got here so he obviously has relationships with these guys.

Unless retaining his job is untenable I wouldn't want to destabilise the off field vibes any further right now.

 

[SandyToes]

While I don't know much about what sort of job he's been doing I do recall that he was the guy who took King, Luko, Rowell and Anderson into his home when they got here so he obviously has relationships with these guys.

Unless retaining his job is untenable I wouldn't want to destabilise the off field vibes any further right now.

I've had conversations with him
He seems to genuinely want success for the Club and is a very nice man
I think Iva Bigun would concur
I'm just starting to think the job might be too much for him and at that point you need to self assess and move on for the good of everyone
Agree though that the last thing we need is to lose a Chairman Coach and CEO in 6 months !!!

 

[OB11]

I've had conversations with him
He seems to genuinely want success for the Club and is a very nice man
I think Iva Bigun would concur
I'm just starting to think the job might be too much for him and at that point you need to self assess and move on for the good of everyone
Agree though that the last thing we need is to lose a Chairman Coach and CEO in 6 months !!!

If Hardwick came in and players love him then you have the ability to do whatever like off the field

 

[SandyToes]

FFS though
Craig Cameron must have the world's best Ghillie suit
Where does the guy hide?
We're never playing finals or contesting until we augment the playing group with a couple of A+ graders
As I've mentioned-natural player progression just keeps pace-it doesn't leapfrog other teams
His best has been Chol, Atkins and Long
Look up the road
Rayner Daniher Cameron Neale Gunston and a host of high end homegrown talent and they're still struggling to get to the last week in September
We have to get Hardwick because its the only way realistically we're going to start attracting anything decent
It's why I'd take Dusty if he was on the table
He would immediately raise our " destination Club" ranking points
Maybe not to a Collingwood or Carlton but maybe we could at least become unsubmerged

 

[Kwality]

Getting Jeff Kennetts opinion kills the whole article

As long as you dont take it as gospel, its fine.
Supportive of Dew, suggesting Evans should consider his position is spot on imho.

I would love to know Cochranes real opinion.
As a student of his time at V8 Supercars, I know he has the commercial nous to put your club on the right track, but I was amazed how 'quiet' he was, inhibited by not really holding the purse strings meaning the 'take no prisoners approach' (that I often disagreed with, but he got the results) was not seen at the footy club.

Parachuting Melburnians into non heartland States is always risky & using your club as a tool of the very Melbourne centric AFL administration needs to cease immediately. That requires the AFL Commissioners showing some integrity by directing the new CEO, not rubber stamping decisions that USE the Suns (e.g the China FIXture).

I'd be putting Wayne Campbells contribution under the spotlight to see if he is an asset, or not. Having been at GWS, also with the AFL holding the purse strings, who knows where his allegiances lie.

Hang in there guys & good luck.

 

[MarcLocksCrustySock]

It's so incredibly difficult to assess the performance of Mark Evans without being within the club walls but his communication has left a bit to be desired of late and he seems nervous.

I don't think we need to rush making a change here. Stability is key in this period. Let's reassess in 12 months.

 

[lommy]

Small gripe of mine. Our sponsor wall makes us look like a 3rd rate club, just pay a little extra and get a bigger one.. check every other team for reference


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[Iva Bigun]

Small gripe of mine. Our sponsor wall makes us look like a 3rd rate club, just pay a little extra and get a bigger one.. check every other team for reference


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Our history would suggest it’s been apt to this point but a new era, a new sign, logo, Guernesey. Let’s go

 

[Choppers]

Didn't know where I should post this but here'll do I guess....

Here's a little gripe of mine......I read somewhere that the Chief of our Football Dept....lives in Sydney and commutes to the GC. let me say that family comes 1st and should always be 1st consideration.............but if this is true, then I reckon the the Football Dept Chief should be avail 24/7 on the Gold Coast....
So imo Campbell should either re-locate his family to GC or surrounding areas, or look for another job....
This Club deserves a hands on approach from all Staff and you can't do that if you're spending a fair whack of your time 1000klms away...facetime and zoom calls and phone calls don't hack it.........

 

[Jirik13]

Didn't know where I should post this but here'll do I guess....

Here's a little gripe of mine......I read somewhere that the Chief of our Football Dept....lives in Sydney and commutes to the GC. let me say that family comes 1st and should always be 1st consideration.............but if this is true, then I reckon the the Football Dept Chief should be avail 24/7 on the Gold Coast....
So imo Campbell should either re-locate his family to GC or surrounding areas, or look for another job....
This Club deserves a hands on approach from all Staff and you can't do that if you're spending a fair whack of your time 1000klms away...facetime and zoom calls and phone calls don't hack it.........

Lives on GC and visits family on off days according to one media. How often no idea.

 

[robo_1]

It's so incredibly difficult to assess the performance of Mark Evans without being within the club walls but his communication has left a bit to be desired of late and he seems nervous.

I don't think we need to rush making a change here. Stability is key in this period. Let's reassess in 12 months.

Off the field it seems Mark has done a very good job in stabilising the club it was pretty bad when he arrived don’t forget. The back office,corporates ect seem to be in a reasonable spot. Getting fairly decent assistance packages from the afl also. But the football department seems a little bit amateurish still which may change with a new coach depending who comes in and what experience they have

Didn't know where I should post this but here'll do I guess....

Here's a little gripe of mine......I read somewhere that the Chief of our Football Dept....lives in Sydney and commutes to the GC. let me say that family comes 1st and should always be 1st consideration.............but if this is true, then I reckon the the Football Dept Chief should be avail 24/7 on the Gold Coast....
So imo Campbell should either re-locate his family to GC or surrounding areas, or look for another job....
This Club deserves a hands on approach from all Staff and you can't do that if you're spending a fair whack of your time 1000klms away...facetime and zoom calls and phone calls don't hack it.........

Lives on GC and visits family on off days according to one media. How often no idea.

Wayne’s family still live in Sydney he travels there on days off and the odd day here and there and in between games so after giants game Sunday he will goto Sydney and return to club Monday. I bet people didn’t know Rodney Eade also had a similar living arrangement

 

[Choppers]

Lives on GC and visits family on off days according to one media. How often no idea.

OK then fair enough....

 

[robo_1]

I found a cool interview you guys might be interested in.

Check out the podcast The Footy with Broden Kelly (of Aunty Donna fame). This week they interviewed Rosco Elliott the writer of the Suns song.

There was an interesting part where he alluded to the club name too. He submitted the "Suns of the Gold Coast Sky" before the Suns name even came out, so he may be the reason for the Suns name (or it could be purely a coincidence).

The co-host Tom is also a Suns fan, so each episode has a lot more Suns content than your average footy podcast.

Also an older interview here

The story behind the Gold Coast Suns club song - ABC listen

Self-confessed AFL nut Rosco Elliott wrote the Suns song - but had only been to the Gold Coast once

www.abc.net.au

 

[eppo67]

Off the field it seems Mark has done a very good job in stabilising the club it was pretty bad when he arrived don’t forget. The back office,corporates ect seem to be in a reasonable spot. Getting fairly decent assistance packages from the afl also. But the football department seems a little bit amateurish still which may change with a new coach depending who comes in and what experience they have








Wayne’s family still live in Sydney he travels there on days off and the odd day here and there and in between games so after giants game Sunday he will goto Sydney and return to club Monday. I bet people didn’t know Rodney Eade also had a similar living arrangement

Why the f... would you live in Sydney Yuk

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[Iva Bigun]

Why the f... would you live in Sydney Yuk

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Lived there for 5 years 2015-20 and was not a fan, too busy and traffic is a nightmare

 

[eppo67]

Lived there for 5 years 2015-20 and was not a fan, too busy and traffic is a nightmare

It's much worse now.
So l'm told.

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