Survivor: Dragon Island

[Morganashlee]

You approached me, but I didn't need you to say his name, I was the 1st to say Tarks was the danger one. At the time you approached me, I was also trying to figure out who JWS would side with, me or Tarks and felt he would have sided with tarks.

So I am glad you approached me. I would have had to approach you soon. But to me you were also a huge threat, due to who I thought jury would vote for, so even though we helped each other for a bit, you were also just behind Tarks as the target.


Edit - If I didn't say Tarks - is that who you were going to say we should vote for? genuinely interested in that.

Just spotted the edit. We were going for Tarks, you were the last to know it. Even if it was going to be a split vote that is what was happening.

 

[U2tigers]

Anyone with eyes could have seen he was a threat so you don’t get points for that. I am just trying to decipher what made you instrumental in the move.

Imo, you weren’t instrumental. You were the last person included on the plan and all you did was vote him. Did you orchestrate my vote? Maybe that’s what you should be taking credit for.

I can only see things from my point of view, please see my edit in last response.

Did you start that PM - to get me to vote Tarks, as I am the one that raised it, and then you agreed. I didn't know what was in your mind, who you were thinking of voting for.

And as the PM went on I know, you pushed hard for it.

 

[U2tigers]

Just spotted the edit. We were going for Tarks, you were the last to know it. Even if it was going to be a split vote that is what was happening.

All that means is we both had the same idea, but I didn't know that.

So to me I was first in the plan. Does that make sense.

Basically its the same idea coming together.

 

[Morganashlee]

All that means is we both had the same idea, but I didn't know that.

So to me I was first in the plan. Does that make sense.

Basically its the same idea coming together.

No. You got nobody else on board, I coordinated it and you are taking the credit.

That’s cool if you think like that but it’s not correct.

 

[Morganashlee]

I want you to show me what you did, not show me what I did repackaged as your own move.

I want you to win my vote here U2

 

[U2tigers]

No. You got nobody else on board, I coordinated it and you are taking the credit.

That’s cool if you think like that but it’s not correct.

With only seeing things through my eyes and not being a mind reader, I had no idea of your plans, and I gave Tarks as an option, I had no idea who you had in mind beofre I said it.

But you did start the PM, so happy for you to say you got me to vote Tarks.

 

[U2tigers]

I want you to show me what you did, not show me what I did repackaged as your own move.

I want you to win my vote here U2

This is where I am trying to explain it.

I raised Tarks and you agreed. You would have said Tarks, no doubt about it now, and I would of agreed. You started the PM, so you did bring us together, but I am not sure you can claim you made me vote Tarks.

When I raised Tarks, I had no idea who you would have put forward. I guess its something I should have picked up on.

Things just came together with us thinking the same target.

 

[U2tigers]

Anyway - we can only see things through our own eyes, and once things have past they can look a bit different when we see it from everyones views.

 

[Morganashlee]

This is where I am trying to explain it.

I raised Tarks and you agreed. You would have said Tarks, no doubt about it now, and I would of agreed. You started the PM, so you did bring us together, but I am not sure you can claim you made me vote Tarks.

When I raised Tarks, I had no idea who you would have put forward. I guess its something I should have picked up on.

Things just came together with us thinking the same target.

But that’s two people. Who got the others?

 

[U2tigers]

But that’s two people. Who got the others?

We only needed 3, Everyone knew you and Chappy were a team.

anyway like I said its easy once its all happened to see it from all views, but when its only through your own eyes and what you know only, events happen as you see them only.

Until this morning I had no idea you were coming to me about Tarks, in my eyes I raised him as a target, I sort of wish you would have replied, that thats who exactly you came to me about.

 

[U2tigers]

But that’s two people. Who got the others?

I can't even remember how many voted for him to be honest.

But if its you, then thats good, you got the lynch on him, but in the game how am I to know that?

Anyway, thanks for the 'in hindsight' lesson

 

[ChappyUK]

Chappyuk woukd you have ever turned on me?

No.

 

[NinjaSwan]

U2tigers were you instrumental in any moves prior to the final 5/6?

 

[U2tigers]

U2tigers were you instrumental in any moves prior to the final 5/6?

No. And I didnt need to be really. Why do it if you don't need to.

Puts a target on your back like SM.

like I said before I had a idol for quite a few weeks and didnt need it. why would I want to change that

 

[NinjaSwan]

JoshWoodenSpoon what do you think the biggest weakness in your game was?

 

[NinjaSwan]

No. And I didnt need to be really. Why do it if you don't need to.

Puts a target on your back like SM.

like I said before I had a idol for quite a few weeks and didnt need it. why would I want to change that

In terms of making it to the end yes that’s true, but I’d much rather go out when SM did with a very strong chance of winning had he made it all the way than make it to the end and have very little chance.

 

[U2tigers]

In terms of making it to the end yes that’s true, but I’d much rather go out when SM did with a very strong chance of winning had he made it all the way than make it to the end and have very little chance.

Yeah its a good point. Pretty sure my gamestyle would be different if I play again.

But thats why I really started voting for those the jury would love.

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

JoshWoodenSpoon what do you think the biggest weakness in your game was?

Great question, NinjaSwan. My most vulnerable stretch was once we reached the final six. At this juncture I could well have perished in the same manner as fellow power players Morganashlee and Tarkyn_24, but was fortunately able to produce some results in the immunity challenges as well as having access to U2's idol as backup. Another tenuous period was a few votes prior, where a lot of communal trust was required among the rekindled Pink Tribe, in this any one of us could have made a move but evidently much of the reliance was well-placed, and saw the ascendance of a group in which I felt comfortable and smartly established.

I believe I've missed a few questions but rest assured I will address them.

 

[U2tigers]

Great question, NinjaSwan. My most vulnerable stretch was once we reached the final six. At this juncture I could well have perished in the same manner as fellow power players Morganashlee and Tarkyn_24, but was fortunately able to produce some results in the immunity challenges as well as having access to U2's idol as backup. Another tenuous period was a few votes prior, where a lot of communal trust was required among the rekindled Pink Tribe, in this any one of us could have made a move but evidently much of the reliance was well-placed, and saw the ascendance of a group in which I felt comfortable and smartly established.

I believe I've missed a few questions but rest assured I will address them.

I would just like to point out this man has a Beez, and this award would be lost on him.

Just saying.




Nice guy - pppffffttt.

 

[Morganashlee]

Great question, NinjaSwan. My most vulnerable stretch was once we reached the final six. At this juncture I could well have perished in the same manner as fellow power players Morganashlee and Tarkyn_24, but was fortunately able to produce some results in the immunity challenges as well as having access to U2's idol as backup. Another tenuous period was a few votes prior, where a lot of communal trust was required among the rekindled Pink Tribe, in this any one of us could have made a move but evidently much of the reliance was well-placed, and saw the ascendance of a group in which I felt comfortable and smartly established.

I believe I've missed a few questions but rest assured I will address them.

But what was your biggest weakness.

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

But what was your biggest weakness.

Not hustling enough to have certainty around those positions.
Otherwise, availability for some of the earlier tribe immunity challenges, and negligence of about a third of the participants' workings at that time as well. I didn't know with whom SM, NS, chappy, yourself and likely a few others might be working until later so might have missed opportunities or been vulnerable on account of being insulated from those parties.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Interesting responses.

How much of the game play and strategy that we had devised was u2 aware of? And can you provide an example of a situation where you proactively pre-empted voting patterns and used them to put yourself in an advantaged position? The eliminations I am probably most interested in hearing your perspective on are the ones that involved SM using his legacy idol, the elimination of Ninja and the elimination in which SM wasted his remaining idol?

JoshWoodenSpoon ??

 

[Morganashlee]

Chappyuk why should you win

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

Interesting responses.

How much of the game play and strategy that we had devised was u2 aware of? And can you provide an example of a situation where you proactively pre-empted voting patterns and used them to put yourself in an advantaged position? The eliminations I am probably most interested in hearing your perspective on are the ones that involved SM using his legacy idol, the elimination of Ninja and the elimination in which SM wasted his remaining idol?

The gameplay and strategy components were very often passed on, but not with real specificity. I wanted it to appear to U2 that you were useful to us, but that you and I weren't as close as we were. The fact that you were more likely to be targeted and that U2 had an idol meant that he was my most reliable late-game asset. Your distrust of U2 was helpful here and meant any common arrangements had to be negotiated through me.

For the SM legacy vote, both SM and ND were duds for me and either of them going worked for me. I knew the split was SM/ND so that was peachy.

The NS vote was always going to be a close call, but we had the two of us, U2, Morgs and Chappy. Pink Tribe Rekindled was beginning to strut its stuff. This vote was mostly about keeping you alive, and giving a hit to SM/NS.

Coaxing the idol unnecessarily out from SM was huge, but this was mostly your manipulation as you had some weird not-at-all-friends-but-with-benefits thing with noobz. Noobz anticipating a vote for SM, who drop the idol in response, then we score big on Quiv and noobz is sad. I don't care about that as noobz's game was all over the shop and he was one I had no future with. Another win for Pink.


Feel free to ask for more specifics as that's just what I can recall briefly scanning back through stuff.
In the mean time, we can all enjoy this from U2:

"Hi just caught up.

Happy to team up with you and Tarks and Loons."

 

[Tarkyn_24]

The gameplay and strategy components were very often passed on, but not with real specificity. I wanted it to appear to U2 that you were useful to us, but that you and I weren't as close as we were. The fact that you were more likely to be targeted and that U2 had an idol meant that he was my most reliable late-game asset. Your distrust of U2 was helpful here and meant any common arrangements had to be negotiated through me.

For the SM legacy vote, both SM and ND were duds for me and either of them going worked for me. I knew the split was SM/ND so that was peachy.

The NS vote was always going to be a close call, but we had the two of us, U2, Morgs and Chappy. Pink Tribe Rekindled was beginning to strut its stuff. This vote was mostly about keeping you alive, and giving a hit to SM/NS.

Coaxing the idol unnecessarily out from SM was huge, but this was mostly your manipulation as you had some weird not-at-all-friends-but-with-benefits thing with noobz. Noobz anticipating a vote for SM, who drop the idol in response, then we score big on Quiv and noobz is sad. I don't care about that as noobz's game was all over the shop and he was one I had no future with. Another win for Pink.


Feel free to ask for more specifics as that's just what I can recall briefly scanning back through stuff.
In the mean time, we can all enjoy this from U2:

"Hi just caught up.

Happy to team up with you and Tarks and Loons."

You were a little unkind to Noobz. He and I are definitely friends.

But thank you for your response. To me this indicates that you weren't absent from the strategic side of the game, which is what I was mostly seeking you confirm.