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Autopsy Swans beat Dockers by 3 points
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LukeParkerno1
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Were some bad ones both ways, nowadays the HTB is a joke but that one was sort of right, Omeara did vaguely make an attempt, BC didn't
I wonder if some observant soul noticed a few things that I missed:
1) did we have someone(s) specific on Bolton or was it team defence? Either way he again didn't have any real impact in a tough game. Still drooling over Corey's tackle.
2) Was Wicks stationed on someone specific or in general defence?
3) Did Hayward line up on Ryan? 23 possessions vs 7 ouch if so.
Thanks.
1) did we have someone(s) specific on Bolton or was it team defence? Either way he again didn't have any real impact in a tough game. Still drooling over Corey's tackle.
2) Was Wicks stationed on someone specific or in general defence?
3) Did Hayward line up on Ryan? 23 possessions vs 7 ouch if so.
Thanks.
Congrats, Ralphy. Sam is playing an inspired role this year. Is he enjoying it?
Thanks, he is having fun! Though players like Bolton are a real handful!
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I love how he has gone from a fringe best 23 to (I'm sure) one of the first magnets placed down this year. I hope the club re-signs him on a long term deal.
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Two things I took out of this:
1. Freo fans would find this deadset terrible to watch. Their mids were literally asleep at the wheel.
2. Our mids are still a bit off the boil. If our mids were given this much space last year, they'd have absolutely put Freo to the sword.
1. Freo fans would find this deadset terrible to watch. Their mids were literally asleep at the wheel.
2. Our mids are still a bit off the boil. If our mids were given this much space last year, they'd have absolutely put Freo to the sword.
I've always been a fan and it must have been devastating to be bounced backwards and forwards. He's playing like he was born to it right now on both sides of the ball. 3 games with top 10 (or better) performance. Cox must be delighted. Personally I think there's room for both he and Harry with the growth in small forward numbers.
Isn’t the point being made that Campbell’s teammates should be using him more (by sending the ball his way) to take advantage of that beautiful boot rather than expecting him to win his own ball, which, as you say, has not ever been his strength.
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LukeParkerno1
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It’s both, it’s on his teammates yes but BC has to look for the ball and be in a position to get it. Was a mile better last game was his best game for quite a while
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Love FirstUse, provides great insight.
It also shows how much the quality of a ruck is measured by the output of the midfielders. Grundy read those situations perfectly and dropped balls directly where they needed to go, but because our ball use was average and Grundy doesn't do as much flashy stuff around the ground, the story is that he's out of form.
Always needs to be some of both. For mine, I'm happy to see him attacking the play with a lot more intent which should lead to an increase from both sources as his teammates trust him more. Corey is similar and travelling the same road. This year is the first time I've felt, rather than hoped, that both these guys will make it. Each made brilliant tackles recently.
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Having looked at the game again. The first half was Terrible for disposals. We were wasteful. Very wasteful. The bombing to the forward line was just dreadful. If you are going to bomb at least put it to your forward's Advantage. Stop kicking the call to your opponents. Frustrating. Grrrr.
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I might be way off here and this is just my observation, but I feel like there is a direct correlation between our clearances and our forward entries. Like I am convinced our disproportionate amount of clearances that are won out the back of stoppages, rather than out the front or out wide...
... give the opposition defence more time to set up against our forwards, because...
... we require more possessions to get it to someone in a position to actually send it forward, which...
... invites more pressure onto the eventual player sending it forward, leading to a rushed entry.
The 15-20m between a ball getting out the front or back of a stoppage can be the difference between a composed entry or a rushed entry, a deep entry or a shallow entry, a Chad Warner charging into an open 50 or a Chad Warner throwing it on the boot off one step on the back of the centre square. I know which I prefer!
Just my thoughts, I'm not saying I'm right
... give the opposition defence more time to set up against our forwards, because...
... we require more possessions to get it to someone in a position to actually send it forward, which...
... invites more pressure onto the eventual player sending it forward, leading to a rushed entry.
The 15-20m between a ball getting out the front or back of a stoppage can be the difference between a composed entry or a rushed entry, a deep entry or a shallow entry, a Chad Warner charging into an open 50 or a Chad Warner throwing it on the boot off one step on the back of the centre square. I know which I prefer!
Just my thoughts, I'm not saying I'm right
You are 100% correct BUT I think the sideways/backwards clearance requires a plan B type of entry rather than the high hack.
Wider, possibly shorter, ie two or even three kicks to get inside 50. Requires the right reaction from wingers, HFF, possibly even HBF and the CBA midfielders plus the forwards leading to the right places at the right time.
Like everything else, they need to train for it.
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Hard to imagine that a year ago some were whining that Amartey would never rise to the heights of Jugle Hagan and/or wasn't worth keeping. It's great to have a player who can kick as many goals in a season as U-Hagan and still seeks to improve every year. Joel's obviously worked hard in the preseason to build up and get fitter. Three games in and Joel's marking and kicking are already ahead or on par his average of last year. He seems to be more consistent, clunking marks with more confidence and kicking at 63% accuracy. Amartey's also playing more time on ground, despite the sweltering conditions. By contrast, he was subbed off in the first two games last year and it wasn't until after the second bye that his TOG was near his 77% average of the first three games of 2025.
He could have another break out year but I'm pretty confident he'll improve and continue to do so each year. Being able to step up and nail a decider is a big plus.
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Chad Warner throws it on the boot off one step at the back of the centre square. It sails through the goals, half post high above a muddied-blob of stunned defenders who can only flap their jaws in awe as the ball sails into the opposition crowd and slaps a cold hard falcon to the face of the loudest prick in their cheer squad.
Insult with injury. That's what I prefer to see!
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I think the issue though is that the backwards clearance often tends to invite so much pressure that it doesn't allow a plan B. It becomes just a "get it out of here" situation. Which feels wasteful and the opposite of what should be happening if you've started the play on your terms by winning the clearance.
But an example of what you're talking about in terms of a successful "backwards" clearance could maybe be for the rover to cut out the middle men around him (ie. his fellow mids) and get it directly to a running half back who can propel it forward with speed. It'd require a Blakey or a Bice knowing instantly when to push up for a receive, and then a Heeney or a Rowbottom identifying that that half back is a better target for the receive than one of their fellow mids.
But as you say, if they train it enough, you just never know...
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Sideways, backwards, higher, wider, fast entry? Yewk guys, get a chess-board
I'm glad you understand!
I thought Fremantle were very Dogs like in the way they ‘threw’ the ball forward at every tackle. My only question is - why aren’t we doing that?
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I think you make a lot of sense.
People on here criticising us bombing into the forward line like it’s never occurred to the players and coaches to not do it.
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Cripps is the best at the moment at this.
LukeParkerno1
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Libbatore and it's not even close, the bloke plays rugby out there. least Cripps handballs it sometimes
Being at the ground, it was clear that this was at least partly an issue with lack of movement from the forwards (and to be fair it was brutally hot). On the plus side, the winning goal came from an outstanding kick to advantage from Jimmy R - when it counted, they finally got it right!
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