Swans supporters should ask their coach for an explanation

[mark73]

Want some cheese with your whine?

You've used that already. It's now stale.

if sydney did play free flowing, they would of absolutly smashed the roos, so you should thank roo's for the 2 points you scraped away with today

Sydney tried to play free flowing to get back in the game. And low and behold it worked. They managed a draw in what should've been a loss. What you're talking about is anyone's guess. Are you just trying to psyche yourself up for when your mob cops their annual 60pt flogging from them?

 

[.Shotties.]

Lol @ North supporters getting all teary. Jesus Christ, people, it's been six years. The milks congealed on the ground by now.

 

[Doctor Jolly]

Forget about a West Sydney team when the worst advertisement for the game is all they have promoting the game in NSW.

Rubbish football.

You've already stuffed football in Sydney, Canberra and now Gold Coast, so please keep your cancerous nose out of Western Sydney.

FWIW, it takes 2 teams to make a boring game. No doubting Sydney did its part, North had a choice. They chose to join in.

 

[timthetoolman]

It's ironic that a north supporter is complaining about the swans gameplan when its very similar to the Laidley match-plan.

A lock-down gameplan based around getting players behind the ball; creating multiple ball-ups and backing themselves in these contested situations; play down the wings endeavouring to hit up teammates and if the opposition has the numbers behind the play throw in a little sideways movement; and ah yea and throw in a bit of tempo football when sides get a run on, and use it again in icing the clock at the end of quarters, games, or to hold a lead.

It is the style of football played by teams that are less skilled to bring back to the field the more skillful teams and is currently engaged in by the saints, north and the swans.

That my friend, is 100 percent correct. If you do not posess a dominant midfield or players who can consistently win those contested situations in the midfield, one on one, why would you consistently move the ball on to a contest. What people who hate the Swans are asking Sydney to do is play like Essendon are playing; blast away turn the ball over and get smashed week in and week out.
I'm not interested in seeing that.
as for the continual "oh my god there are 30 players in Sydneys defensive 50"
for gods sake don't blame Roos for that. I learnt in the under 10's that regardless of where my opponent is I did not enter the forward line if we had to many players in there clogging up our space.
Perhaps this is where Sydneys opponents need to back themselves and either hit a target inside the 50 or be confident enough that they will create a turnover and prevent Sydney from getting out of their defensive 50. If Sydney has nobody further up the ground surely they will be able to do that.

Sydney are a good football team and I would love to see Paul Roos coach a side that was blessed with the talent at say Hawthorn or Geelong. Or a full strength Sydney side in a couple of years when a few of our kids have had a chance to develop at this level, Malceski, Jack, Bird, Barlow, Moore etc. I think you might suddenly realise that Paul Roos is infact a great coach and forms a game plan around what he has. Funnily enough working with what he has and being competitive week in week out is his job.

 

[TheBloods]

I don't see how any Swans supporters can defend that rubbish style of game plan. The Swans were boring and terrible yesterday - I can't remember the last time I was so bored at a game.

The frustrating part is that we know we have a good side. We know we have the players to match it with any team in the competition. We know we can score goals - we see it time and time again when the game opens up we can run the ball forward and kick a score in a hurry.

Even without Hall we have a pretty talented forward line, but we have no offensive structure. Hardly surprising our forwards have little impact on the game when our forward 50 entries are few and far between and when they do go in there they are often poor. Swans fans love ripping into Davis, but he presented really well in the first half, taking three good marks and making a number of other leads. Kicked poorly, obviously very down on confidence. MOL had a tough matchup on Firrito and the midfielders did him no favours with rubbish delivery.

Roos needs to stop this lock down game and open it up.


(ps: comments in this thread that Roos is an overrated footballer are just ignorant).

 

[Pessimistic]

Give roos the west sydney job and let him recruit bum sniffers to play AFL

That way he'd be in his element

 

[The Zebra]

I don't mind Sydney games generally, but yesterday's flooding was ridiculous and the game suffered.

The only way we could score was on the rebound - and when we did it properly we scored easily, but what a terrible game to watch.

I have really never seen flooding anything like that.

 

[Pessimistic]

Can anyone at north kick it 50m plus ?

Seriously at the dome you have as much chance taking a kick from 50 out dead in front than 25m out on a big angle.

If sydney flood so badly just leave your best kickers in the center square and feed it to them from the side

 

[mango]

Paul Roos' coaching style is a disgrace. At more than one stage this afternoon there were 36 players in one third of the ground. His coaching style is bringing the game into disrepute.

as i have said before the sooner roos' is out of the game the better, & we can only hope not too many others are infected with his appalling approach to our wonderful game

he brings absolutely nothing positive to a side that, lets face it, still has a fair whack of talent running about & should be able to manage a competitive contest without such a negative & boring game plan

 

[Doctor Jolly]

Year in year out, sydneys most boring games are usually against:
1) St Kilda. - Just do something else that weekend. Under Lyon, and Corn flakes.
2) North - Generally not as bad, but if the lawn needs mowing...
3) Adelaide.

These sides need to take their share of responsibility,

I held little hope for this game, so only caught the last half on TV. Cant comment on the first half, but the last half wasnt bad. Maybe my expectations were low. I think the umpires could have helped by paying a few more free kicks. When you have 5 ball ups in a row, its natural that the pack becomes bigger and bigger.

 

[The Zebra]

Can anyone at north kick it 50m plus ?

Seriously at the dome you have as much chance taking a kick from 50 out dead in front than 25m out on a big angle.

If sydney flood so badly just leave your best kickers in the center square and feed it to them from the side

Yeah, we should have had more pings from distance.

We made the mistake over and over of passing inside the 50 rather than having a shot. You just can't do it when there are 36 people in the forward 50 - and those kind of numbers in there render guys like Campbell and Thomas virtually useless as small forwards.

Jesse Smith was a huge late out. This was the game we needed his run, arrogance and long kicking the most.

 

[.Shotties.]

I have really never seen flooding anything like that.

Neither had I, then I went to the North board after the game and all the tears about tunnelling and shit football had filled it up pretty well.

 

[comrade]

Much prefer watching a game like that to the touch footy Bulldogs & West coast played last night.

Always love it when Swans fans try to call attacking football 'touch football'. As if free flowing footy was a bad thing.

And at least be accurate..Bulldogs rank 2nd behind Geelong for average contested possessions per game with 43.3. Sydney ranks 13th with 34.3.

 

[The Zebra]

Neither had I, then I went to the North board after the game and all the tears about tunnelling and shit football had filled it up pretty well.

Haven't read the tunnelling threads. I guess they are talking about Edwards? I will have to see the repay.

Good for you if you are happy with that game and result.

You should be. You eeked out a draw with a superior team away from home.

 

[The Teflon Dean]

You've already stuffed football in Sydney, Canberra and now Gold Coast, so please keep your cancerous nose out of Western Sydney.

Yeah right, a handfull of interstate games compared to 20 years of AFL funded rubbish.

FWIW, it takes 2 teams to make a boring game.

No, only one.

You obviously lack the basic fundamental understanding of the game to understand this.

Come closer to the monitor, put your ear against it and I will whisper the secret of flooding into it:

"The reason that teams initiate the flood is so they can impede the offensive capabilities of the opposition"

Alright, now make sure you keep that between the two of us, tiger.

No doubting Sydney did its part,

This is the only part of your entire post that is factual.

North had a choice.

Unfortunately, no. We aren't Geelong, and injuries are killing us.

They chose to join in.

Remember our little secret?

 

[The Teflon Dean]

I don't see how any Swans supporters can defend that rubbish style of game plan. The Swans were boring and terrible yesterday - I can't remember the last time I was so bored at a game.

The frustrating part is that we know we have a good side. We know we have the players to match it with any team in the competition. We know we can score goals - we see it time and time again when the game opens up we can run the ball forward and kick a score in a hurry.

Even without Hall we have a pretty talented forward line, but we have no offensive structure. Hardly surprising our forwards have little impact on the game when our forward 50 entries are few and far between and when they do go in there they are often poor. Swans fans love ripping into Davis, but he presented really well in the first half, taking three good marks and making a number of other leads. Kicked poorly, obviously very down on confidence. MOL had a tough matchup on Firrito and the midfielders did him no favours with rubbish delivery.

Roos needs to stop this lock down game and open it up.

Quality.

REAL MEN live and die by the sword.

Our defence has been decimated by injury but instead of exploiting that, Roos chose to play safe.

 

[.Shotties.]

REAL MEN live and die by the sword.

Lol, says the anonymous poster on an internet football forum.

 

[The Teflon Dean]

Lol, says the anonymous poster on an internet football forum.

Strangely, in a football context.

You idiot.

 

[.Shotties.]

Strangely, in a football context.

You idiot.

It was actually more to do with the anonymous poster on the internet thing.

Nice number 2 you're sporting there.

 

[clobba]

i don't think the swans fans need an explanation - if they haven't worked it out after 6 years - no amount of explanation

yes the game style sucks, yes it is boring - but it isn't cheating, it isn't against the rules and it did bag a premiership

however take heart in the way geelong one last year - good ole fashioed football is back in vogue - teams all want to play attacking football again

I f**king wish

 

[unstable punt]

Paul Roos' coaching style is a disgrace. At more than one stage this afternoon there were 36 players in one third of the ground. His coaching style is bringing the game into disrepute.

bit late, this post has come up 5 times a year for the last 5 years, yes it is crap and yes we hate it

 

[The Teflon Dean]

It was actually more to do with the anonymous poster on the internet thing.

Nice number 2 you're sporting there.

What on earth are you on about?

 

[.Shotties.]

What on earth are you on about?

I found it funny that an anonymous poster on an internet forum was going on about REAL MEN!!!1 and living and dying by the sword from a position of absolutely no risk or responsibility.

 

[The Zebra]

I found it funny that an anonymous poster on an internet forum was going on about REAL MEN!!!1 and living and dying by the sword from a position of absolutely no risk or responsibility.

So you are admitting that Roos squibbed it, but saying Teflon shouldn't comment because he might squib it too if in the same position.

 

[jmorg1]

Before bringing the Crows into this discussion, please note that we are 7th in terms of scoring (points for) while every other team mentioned is in the bottom 8.