Who pays for it shagger?
Opinion Sydney Swans Academy and Rebuild
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Who pays for it shagger?
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I'm interested to hear what advantages Melbourne have been given over Sydney.
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the grand final always being played at your own deck if you make it there (barring unforeseen circumstances) is a rather significant advantage i would say
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The AFL gave 2 reasons for this:
1. The clubs are the ones funding it
2. More importantly, the academies are competing against academies like this in league and soccer where the kid is tied to the club. It's seen as a reason for it's success. If a talented kid has to make a choice between codes the parent is more likely to pick the sport knowing where the kid will end up
Also worth reminding - this is not the AFLs first attempt at developing kids in NSW. Just prior the AFL introduced the NSW Scholarship program but most clubs were not picking players through it or were just picking kids from the Riverina.
Walker and Witts are 2 wins from that program but the sheer number of players picked up for the program amounted to very little return.
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Using your logic, the AFL is really pfhukcing up with their secret scheme for GWS and GC.
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Try a quick scan of the previous 103 pages. Sheesh.
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Nope. Heeney Mills Blakey v no one.
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Yes, and this has been discussed endlessly.
"No-one" LOL. Are you pretending you don't know the stated purpose of the northern academies?
Bloody hell.
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Big piles of garbage to not equal diamonds.
Reckon Sydney & GWS get advantage of Melbourne based players with huge profiles wanting to get out of the limelight.
We don't get that in Perth, nor does the Adelaide clubs.
Brizzy probably get an advantage here as well.
Just think if Freo had an academy, Jackson and Chad would be a tantalising combo
We don't get that in Perth, nor does the Adelaide clubs.
Brizzy probably get an advantage here as well.
Just think if Freo had an academy, Jackson and Chad would be a tantalising combo
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You are either obtuse or disingenuous if you think the entire matter is that the Swans got "given" three players and that's all folks! Not really interested in continuing this dull discussion. Bye.
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Yep they are. They stuffed up their initial setup and are dealing with the legacy of that. Even so GWS competed for flags for a few years.
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"If you make it there" - that's the crux, the hard part is making it. Something that the Swans get a leg up with with their academy priority picks every single year.
Home ground advantage didn't seem to matter in 2020 and 2021. Perhaps it's just the better team with the better players and coaches who prevail once it gets to the pointy end rather than where the game is played
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in the 2020 and 2021 grand final's neither team had a home ground advantage so im not sure what your point is there. i also explicitly put a caveat on those years in my post"If you make it there" - that's the crux, the hard part is making it. Something that the Swans get a leg up with with their academy priority picks every single year.
Home ground advantage didn't seem to matter in 2020 and 2021. Perhaps it's just the better team with the better players and coaches who prevail once it gets to the pointy end rather than where the game is played
it's disingenuous to say that the swans get a leg up with academy priority picks every year. how many of their best 22 come from the academy? they are a very well run team both on and off field similar to geelong and make the most of what they have. i would say the academies break about even with the inherent advantages that the more prominent melbourne clubs get in regards to go home free agents and trade, as well as being able to offer more post football opportunities generally
the only change i would make to academies is removing the points discount on matched bids
if you want to talk about clubs that are truly disadvantaged, the small victorian clubs that dont generally draw free agents would be where i would start (north, footscray and st kilda)
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Weird then that they slapped that trade ban on us for doing too well.
So do they want all the northern clubs to win flags equally, or do they want some northern clubs to win more flags than others, or did they want some northern clubs to win more flags than others but now they've decided they'd prefer other northern clubs to win, or do they want a judicious mix of northern clubs and clubs in traditional Aussie Rules states winning flags in specified years, or do they want...
As I have stated several times in this thread, there are literally dozens of structural inequalities in the AFL. There are a number of equalisation measures in place, and the northern academies are one, but if you really feel strongly about the many inequalities, there are plenty of other measures that could be considered. We could do away with the fixture, and all marquee matches for starters. We could move the grand final every year.
But no, there are always such good reasons why we can't do any of those (and some of them are valid.)
So let's just put about the notion that the Swans are the AFL's favourite child.
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Given that its true I'd suggest you just thank the AFL for the leg up.
Already been explained plenty of times that to get Mills Sydney had to pay our first rounder, second rounder and Craig Bird. Probably still unders but he was anything but free and suggesting he was is completely disingenuous.
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How many goals he kick?
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I love how people from Melbourne, a city which is dominated by one code, of one sport, in a way that is almost unique in the world, complain that someone else gets a "leg up". Bye.
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