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Whilst retention hasn't been a problem with the swans so far, attracting talent is becoming an issue. I'd also guess the club is paying players very close to the top rate just to get them to stay
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Do we not?
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Bingo. It's why all our competitors have signed talent to push on for a flag next year and we've been using our cap just getting players to sign on again. Papley isn't staying out of the kindness of his heart, we'll have given him a great offer. Contrast with Geelong able to pay unders because players are near home and get to kick back on the farm every other day.
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I still don't understand, after 100+ pages of this discussion, why it is only the Swans academy which apparently is the problem.
I mean, if having an academy is such a huge advantage, where is the focus on the other clubs which have one?
I mean, if having an academy is such a huge advantage, where is the focus on the other clubs which have one?
You had some pretty big burdens on the salary cap, to be fair. Not a lot of wiggle room.
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Bigfooty Legend
Did we? Managed to sign Heeney, Mills and Parker to big deals.
No - Cameron would be the only one close to 900k, and once you hit 30 you take a pay cut, doesn't matter who you are.
We didn't bring anyone big in for this year anyway. We probably had to give a Christmas bonus to meet the cap obligations.
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You brought in Bowes who was a salary dump.. LOL.
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Bigfooty Legend
Umm do you understand that those are examples of big deals we were able to sign despite you claiming we couldn't? Heeney and Mills deals were this year.
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Bigfooty Legend
Your argument was you didn't spend big on any recruits this year. I don't think you know what you're trying to argue.
Ok, I think you are drunk. Bowes doesn't come out of this year's cap.
Same goes with your other reply. Buddy, Heeney, Parker on big contracts from 2016 - 2021, Mills from 2017-2022. You haven't been able to attract any big recruits in that time, right?
But it's got nothing to do with cap burden. You're a genius mate.
I agree. That's why I mentioned the loss of COLA. I actually don't have a problem with it, having lived in Sydney myself for a decade. I didn't think it should have been removed in the first place and think they should bring it back.
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Where on Earth did I say he did? You said you didn't bring in any big hitters this year - i.e. this year's trade period, i.e. the one that just finished. You were seemingly using this as evidence that you have no big hitters that would fill your cap.
You really need to upskill your comprehension or this conversation is going absolutely nowhere.
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It's interesting how the buddy deal handcuffed us, yet having dusty owed 2.6 million for the next two years didn't affect the tigers bringing in 2 players on 750k+
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It's also interesting that we were looking to bring Ryder in and had a way to work it under the cap but were told "You can't have everyone" but Geelong have just brought in Bruhn, Henry and Bowes.
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Between grooming kids to bomb interstate draft interviews
- exploiting the good will and incredible generosity of Victorian born players to play for peanuts and put more emphasis in playing for the pride of the jumper rather than selfish monetary gain like players from every other state
-60-70% of the entire draft pool coming from one locale
-playing away games in your own city and often the same venue as your home ground
-home grand final regardless of opposition or ladder position
- constant pillaging of expansion teams
I'm not sure how they operate in these ridiculous and criminally unfair conditions.
But let's take away the one tool that gives northern teams a fighting chance and if your lucky produce 1 first round calibre player every 5 years
- exploiting the good will and incredible generosity of Victorian born players to play for peanuts and put more emphasis in playing for the pride of the jumper rather than selfish monetary gain like players from every other state
-60-70% of the entire draft pool coming from one locale
-playing away games in your own city and often the same venue as your home ground
-home grand final regardless of opposition or ladder position
- constant pillaging of expansion teams
I'm not sure how they operate in these ridiculous and criminally unfair conditions.
But let's take away the one tool that gives northern teams a fighting chance and if your lucky produce 1 first round calibre player every 5 years
Wish our Academy was actually half as good as Vic Bigfooty fans make out.
As far as I can tell
2021 Academy draftees = Nil
2022 Academy draftees = Nil
Not exactly a footy factory.
As far as I can tell
2021 Academy draftees = Nil
2022 Academy draftees = Nil
Not exactly a footy factory.
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