Sydney's record in grand finals needs scrutinising

[Giant Pete]

A few of them were busy playing for frees while the Lions were just getting after it.
The Lizards one was the perfect example. Heeney tried a few times too.

 

[The Casey Cat]

Longmire’s 1-4 record is flattering.
They were lucky to win the 2012 grand final. Check out the stats from that game.
Contested possessions
Haw 170 Syd 144
Clearances
Haw 58 Syd 35
Inside 50’s
Haw 61 Syd 43
Scoring shots
Haw 26 Syd 21
We have put the Buddy curse on them.
2014 - Hawks smash swans.
2016 - Clarko assistant Bevo.
2022 - Isaac Smith norm smith.
2024 - Clarko assistant Fages.

They were at least prepared to tackle in 2012. Can't stand Kennet but he was actually right in what he said after that game. You don't win a GF unless you're prepared to tackle and chase like a maniac. Swans had 33 in the first 3 quarters today...

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Like the petition that we started banning Essendon from winning a final again? Think that petition started in 2004 from memory

Change.org wasn’t around in 2004, so I don’t know what you’re talking about.

 

[longsuffreosupp]

Lost it at selection again. Reid in 22 and Macdonald in 24. Taylor might've been handy as the Brisbane midfield was rampant..

 

[TheGoatBaron]

Change.org wasn’t around in 2004, so I don’t know what you’re talking about.

Petitions were though

 

[RUNVS]

"What's the use of trying, all we get is pain. When I wanted sunshine I got rain"

 

[Chronz]

Yeah it's such a shame they can't win a flag.

 

[Mootsy]

"What's the use of trying, all we get is pain. When I wanted sunshine I got rain"

I don’t understand why the swans looked so lethargic today, weird.

 

[RUNVS]

I don’t understand why the swans looked so lethargic today, weird.

Did the same in 2022 and 2014 actually.

Result of being smashed in the clearances and the opposition not turning the ball over (which we rely on as Longmire only values the turnover game).

 

[Altum Volantes]

If they shit the bed again…

I don’t think they will…but jeez…again?

So yeah they shit the bed again.

They should be rightfully called out on an inability to close the deal.

Warning signs were there all year.

 

[RUNVS]

So yeah they shit the bed again.

They should be rightfully called out on an inability to close the deal.

Warning signs were there all year.

Yep. The reason why the Swans struggled in first quarters were because of pressure. We could not play the way we wanted to play when the pressure was high, but in normal home and away season games the pressure usually drops off a bit after a quarter or so and it allowed us to take control over the game.

The problem with finals is that the pressure does not drop off like it does for a home and away season game.

 

[Boxhead_31]

Sydney's Grand Final record under coach Longmire is 1 win and 4 losses.

That is a self destructive, horrendous and horrific record. Sydney fans should be embarrassed by that stat.

It just shows that Home & Away footy means absolutely nothing...all it does is set a team up for a Premiership win.

It's Finals Footy that wins a team a Premiership.

Sydney keep turning to water, they keep crumbling like a cheesecake biscuit base. Pathetic really.

Time for Big Cox to take over?

 

[Lunchtime]

Home & Away footy only means a certain amount. Home & Away footy sets a team up for a Premiership but Finals footy is what wins teams a Premiership. It's a small window...only 1 month...but that is when it truly matters. Too much emphasis goes into Home & Away footy. Need to get the job done in Finals too. Sydney now have a 1-4 Grand Final record under Longmire as coach.

All Australians, Coleman Medals, Brownlow medals mean nothing when it TRULY matters most.

 

[Lunchtime]

Time for Big Cox to take over?

They need to make a call at some stage

 

[The Casey Cat]

Sydney now have a 1-4 Grand Final record under Longmire as coach.

All Australians, Coleman Medals, Brownlow medals mean nothing when it TRULY matters most.

Its not just 1-4. It's the manor 3 of the 4 have happened. Not looking like it or giving a help all day. RUNVS has provided some insight. They just are not playing in a way that will hold up to GF level pressure.

 

[dean33]

Premiership window was right again!

 

[Altum Volantes]

Yep. The reason why the Swans struggled in first quarters were because of pressure. We could not play the way we wanted to play when the pressure was high, but in normal home and away season games the pressure usually drops off a bit after a quarter or so and it allowed us to take control over the game.

The problem with finals is that the pressure does not drop off like it does for a home and away season game.

It was honestly the Eagles game in Gather Round where it clicked for me. Couldn’t believe how quickly the Swans went to water with simply ‘big effort’ pressure (no real skill) from a very ordinary Eagles line up.

Sydney brushed them aside eventually but it was there and kept reoccurring throughout the season.

 

[banzai]

They only ever lose because of Vicbias.

 

[RUNVS]

It was honestly the Eagles game in Gather Round where it clicked for me. Couldn’t believe how quickly the Swans went to water with simply ‘big effort’ pressure (no real skill) from a very ordinary Eagles line up.

Sydney brushed them aside eventually but it was there and kept reoccurring throughout the season.

Yep, about that time I was thinking of it too.

It also made a lot of sense as to why Sydney was playing so badly in the first quarters, it wasn't bad luck or anything. It was that our game style was water under pressure, and the pressure is usually highest early in a game.

 

[Daka]

Another reason why it's good not to compete every year like the Swans do.

Imagine getting your heart broken every year?

 

[the harry]

Might have to pull out the green curtain for Horse

 

[RUNVS]

Might have to pull out the green curtain for Horse

and bring out the big Cox.

 

[LoungeLizard]

What is it with Collingwood fans being dicks today? Had around 3 or 4 Collingwood fans who were trolling on the Swans board during the game.

You're always going on about Vicbias, stick that one up your clacker.

How is Longmires words eating into the players minds now?

Sometimes it's just better to keep your big mouth closed, like Ginni and Longmire just found out.

Swandivers forever.

 

[RUNVS]

You're always going on about Vicbias, stick that one up your clacker.

How is Longmires words eating into the players minds now?

Sometimes it's just better to keep your big mouth closed, like Ginni and Longmire just found out.

Swandivers forever.

It was only Collingwood fans though. Wasn't fans of other clubs.

 

[the harry]

and bring out the big Cox.

Would you want that? Surely they're just similar?