Scandal Tarryn Thomas charged with 'threatening to distribute intimate image' + driving with suspended license

[perplexed]

Club Statements

Dr Sonja Hood stands with Tarryn Thomas through serious DV allegations - Club Statement

North Melbourne President Dr Sonja Hood has issued the following […]

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UPDATE: Tarryn Thomas "to take time away from the club"

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Fined, no conviction recorded:

Tarryn Thomas - North Melbourne club statement

Tarryn Thomas appeared in Broadmeadows Magistrates’ Court today where an […]

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[the big lebowski]

I think the Dusty one was a once off which helps him. Thomas had a string of incidences and issues that make it easier to judge him.

Wait, so you’re saying dusty shouldn’t have been thrown in jail from his death threat?

 

[perplexed]

“I’m too scared … i know he’s (Thomas) gonna kill me.”

Apparently the victim was wrong to think TT wanted to kill her.

You are defending him, and you’re telling us all that this young woman was wrong to feel like her life was being threatened.

I have done nothing of the sort, but you know that. You just like making stuff up to annoy people. I have said nothing about the victims or specifics of any of these incidents because I, like you, don't have all the information. Those that do have reached different conclusions to you.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I have done nothing of the sort, but you know that. You just like making stuff up to annoy people. I have said nothing about the victims or specifics of any of these incidents because I, like you, don't have all the information. Those that do have reached different conclusions to you.

You’ve said that TT didn’t make any death threats.

Was this woman wrong?

 

[perplexed]

I like how every non-North supporter post after this is people agreeing with SYL. But sure, he's the one posting garbage.

"TT is a piece of s**t!"

"But, but, Dusty!"

I agree that the Dusty stuff has no place in this thread. And that Thomas is a piece of work.

But agreeing with SYL? I find that hard to believe, even here. You might want to scroll back to read the knuckle-dragging claims he made to kick this off.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Wait, so you’re saying dusty shouldn’t have been thrown in jail from his death threat?

Ha! I’m saying that he got a free pass for being Dusty.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I agree that the Dusty stuff has no place in this thread. And that Thomas is a piece of work.

But agreeing with SYL? I find that hard to believe, even here. You might want to scroll back to read the knuckle-dragging claims he made to kick this off.

Knuckle dragging? For pointing out that Thomas is a scumbag who threatened young women and their families.

You’re just a fanboy, making excuses for a scumbag because he wears your colors.

 

[perplexed]

Knuckle dragging? For pointing out that Thomas is a scumbag who threatened young women and their families.

You’re just a fanboy, making excuses for a scumbag because he wears your colors.

For ignoring the results of two police investigations and claiming someone should be jailed because you thought that would get some likes.

 

[Sixpence]

I agree that the Dusty stuff has no place in this thread. And that Thomas is a piece of work.

But agreeing with SYL? I find that hard to believe, even here. You might want to scroll back to read the knuckle-dragging claims he made to kick this off.

You find it hard to believe?! The posts are literally written on the last page, what is there to "believe"?

 

[Forward Press]

Threatening to kill is an indictable offence. Thomas has been investigated by police twice in relation to these claims and both times they found that he hadn't done this. But you guys know better.

"He wasn't charged with an indictable offence of a threat to kill!" isn't the big win you think it is.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

How is it not?

That is simply not a death threat, or a "threat to kill," in Legal Terms.

That wouldn't even constitute a "threat to inflict serious injury."

It is certainly threatening language, most likely said with the intention of causing fear, and would absolutely be enough to allow for immediate intervention orders to be taken out.

But a "threat to kill" needs to be a lot more direct than "your time will come," in order to qualify.

Prosecutors may have run with that charge initially and ultimately settle for a lesser charge. The "threats to kill" charge would 100% get thrown out by the Magistrate, based on what was said by TT.

 

[the big lebowski]

That is simply not a death threat, or a "threat to kill," in Legal Terms.

That wouldn't even constitute a "threat to inflict serious injury."

It is certainly threatening language, most likely said with the intention of causing fear, and would absolutely be enough to allow for immediate intervention orders to be taken out.

But a "threat to kill" needs to be a lot more direct than "your time will come," in order to qualify.

Prosecutors may have run with that charge initially and ultimately settle for a lesser charge. The "threats to kill" charge would 100% get thrown out by the Magistrate, based on what was said by TT.

Exactly. And to be clear Thomas was never charged with anything other than one count of threatening to release an intimate image. That was the charge that was downgraded later on.

Everything else was investigated. The other party wasn’t happy, went to the media, it was investigated again, and again no additional charges were laid.

 

[perplexed]

"He wasn't charged with an indictable offence of a threat to kill!" isn't the big win you think it is.

There are no winners here. I have simply pointed out what Thomas has and hasn't been charged with and convicted of. Apparently these facts are inconvenient for some.

 

[perplexed]

Exactly. And to be clear Thomas was never charged with anything other than one count of threatening to release an intimate image. That was the charge that was downgraded later on.

Everything else was investigated. The other party wasn’t happy, went to the media, it was investigated again, and again no additional charges were laid.

There is also the driving stuff. Which is pretty bad by itself.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

You’ve said that TT didn’t make any death threats.

Was this woman wrong?

Read above. As pathetic, weak and disgusting as the comments are, they would not qualify as "threats to kill."

Prosecutors would never be able to get up on that charge unless TT himself admitted that -
a) he had intended them as a death threat
and
b) had sent them with the intention of scaring the victim

Now maybe he really meant them as a death threat as maybe he's said things like that, or was even more direct to the victim, in the past. Which is likely the case. But if those messages are the only evidence that is being dealt with then any good defence lawyer or legal aid will get him off that, even though he most certainly meant to cause the victim to be fearful.

 

[Forward Press]

There are no winners here. I have simply pointed out what Thomas has and hasn't been charged with and convicted of. Apparently these facts are inconvenient for some.

I completely agree that he likely does not meet the legal threshold to be charged with an offence that could lead to significant jail time. The police are more well versed in this than you and I, anyway, and they made the decision not to proceed with that charge.

But the text messages quoted - if true - are still a damning indictment on Tarryn Thomas. I guarantee I would say the same thing if he wore blue and gold. And SYL and others are very much entitled to make the legitimate statement that they would not want their daughters around TT or that they think he deserves severe punishment (such as jail) anyway for his conduct, even if the police do not. This is not a minor thing if what is alleged is true.

 

[ferball]

Read it. I don't see how it's not a threat to kill. Sure, if the cops gave it their stamp, trust that. Not sure I do.

Are you trying to tell me the cops wouldn't be all over charging a blackfella with threats to kill that involved white women?

When i was young they'd hang aboriginal men in cells with their hands still cuffed if they spoke to the wrong girls in some towns in Australia.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Read above. As pathetic, weak and disgusting as the comments are, they would not qualify as "threats to kill."

Prosecutors would never be able to get up on that charge unless TT himself admitted that -
a) he had intended them as a death threat
and
b) had sent them with the intention of scaring the victim

Now maybe he really meant them as a death threat as maybe he's said things like that, or was even more direct to the victim, in the past. Which seemingly is likely the case. But if those messages are the only evidence that is being dealt with then any good defence lawyer or legal aid will get him off that, even though he most certainly meant to cause the victim to be fearful.

The last sentence sums it up.

He wanted her to be fearful. She was fearful for her life.

Forget about the wriggle room that can be found in his comments that couldn’t land a serious charge against him, the person he intended to harm was fearful for her life.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

I completely agree that he likely does not meet the legal threshold to be charged with an offence that could lead to significant jail time. The police are more well versed in this than you and I, anyway, and they made the decision not to proceed with that charge.

But the text messages quoted - if true - are still a damning indictment on Tarryn Thomas. I guarantee I would say the same thing if he wore blue and gold. And SYL and others are very much entitled to make the legitimate statement that they would not want their daughters around TT or that they think he deserves severe punishment (such as jail) anyway for his conduct, even if the police do not. This is not a minor thing if what is alleged is true.

It simply does not meet the threshold for a criminal charge.

But it absolutely meets the threshold for immediate Police intervention - via either a Safety Notice or, ultimately, an Intervention Order (executed following a Warrant being issued by Court + some other things would need to be done).

Either way both are immediate options that could be undertaken, they really just depend on whether his whereabouts is known at the time.

 

[perplexed]

But the text messages quoted - if true - are still a damning indictment on Tarryn Thomas.

Completely agree with this. But it is another thing although to claim these amount to death threats to the victims and their families (and where does his families bit come from at all?). Another again to talk of jail time. It is totally unnecessary and deliberately inflammatory.

 

[boncer34]

You’ve said that TT didn’t make any death threats.

Was this woman wrong?

perplexed why are you replying to everything but this post?

 

[perplexed]

perplexed why are you replying to everything but this post?

Fine. I didn't think it necessary to respond because I thought it a silly question based on a willful misrepresentation.

That women is not wrong. She is saying that she fears Thomas will kill her. She is not saying that Thomas threatened to kill her - which is what the poster alleged.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

The last sentence sums it up.

He wanted her to be fearful. She was fearful for her life.

Forget about the wriggle room that can be found in his comments that couldn’t land a serious charge against him, the person he intended to harm was fearful for her life.

Yes, I agree. It's pathetic and he most certainly said what he did with the intention of her being fearful - my speculation is that other things had been said previously and were likely said in person, which is why she had become fearful for her life after receiving these messages.

Luckily she got out in time. Again this is speculation, but history shows that this kind of controlling and threatening behaviour only escalates over time.

FWIW anyone who is interested, as per the Crimes Act:

Threats to kill
A person who, without lawful excuse, makes to another person a threat to kill that other person or any other person—

(a) intending that that other person would fear the threat would be carried out; or

(b) being reckless as to whether or not that other person would fear the threat would be carried out—

Is guilty of an Indictible Offence.

 

[boncer34]

Fine. I didn't think it necessary to respond because I thought it a silly question based on a willful misrepresentation.

That women is not wrong. She is saying that she fears Thomas will kill her. She is not saying that Thomas threatened to kill her - which is what the poster alleged.

And why do you think she feared that?

 

[the big lebowski]

I completely agree that he likely does not meet the legal threshold to be charged with an offence that could lead to significant jail time. The police are more well versed in this than you and I, anyway, and they made the decision not to proceed with that charge.

But the text messages quoted - if true - are still a damning indictment on Tarryn Thomas. I guarantee I would say the same thing if he wore blue and gold. And SYL and others are very much entitled to make the legitimate statement that they would not want their daughters around TT or that they think he deserves severe punishment (such as jail) anyway for his conduct, even if the police do not. This is not a minor thing if what is alleged is true.

Of course. People can be as ignorant as that want.

 

[Gralin]

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