Taylor Adams vs Josh Caddy

[TheJaegerBomb]

It is completely irrelevant to the discussion of whether or not Mckenzie is a midfielder

He had 30% of a pre-season so of course he was not going to spend 2013 in the midfield. He can play a wing position very well but he is too valuable down back. Still a useless discussion and comparison.

 

[Mateyman]

He had 30% of a pre-season so of course he was not going to spend 2013 in the midfield. He can play a wing position very well but he is too valuable down back. Still a useless discussion and comparison.

Which I pointed out... until Adam H/The Finger and another Suns poster started the rubbish about Mckenzie being a midfielder

 

[Adam H]

You can work out who kicks in often for a side (like Mckenzie), as opposed to those who do it if they're standing need the kick-out. It's not very hard. Just like it's not hard to work out that Mckenzie isn't a midfielder

He is a mid fielder though and as Ive posted there are differant roles and diffrant types of mids.

 

[TheJaegerBomb]

Which I pointed out... until Adam H/The Finger and another Suns poster started the rubbish about Mckenzie being a midfielder

He naturally is a midfielder. I would not pigeonhole him to either. He is just as much a mid as he is a defender. As I said, useless comparison and discussion honestly have no idea why your getting so worked up. Most of our squad play multiple positions because in our first few years Mckenna played certain players in positions they did not grow up playing to ensure we have a versatile squad when we become a finals team.

 

[Mateyman]

He naturally is a midfielder. I would not pigeonhole him to either. He is just as much a mid as he is a defender. As I said, useless comparison and discussion honestly have no idea why your getting so worked up. Most of our squad play multiple positions because in our first few years Mckenna played certain players in positions they did not grow up playing to ensure we have a versatile squad when we become a finals team.

We he's barely played midfield at AFL level, so you can't really judge him at all. Why it so hard to accept that he is currently a HBF?

 

[Adam H]

We he's barely played midfield at AFL level, so you can't really judge him at all. Why it so hard to accept that he is currently a HBF?

That plays through the mid field why dont you accept that?

 

[TheJaegerBomb]

We he's barely played midfield at AFL level, so you can't really judge him at all. Why it so hard to accept that he is currently a HBF?

What sport are you watching? Barely any players just play one position. He actually played deep defensive roles a lot of 2013 so do you even watch him play? Bit different to a flanker. As I said he is a mid and played almost half his career so far off a wing. Not really sure what your on about.

 

[the distributer]

Anyone trying to compare Taylor Adams and Trent Mckenzie are really not that well schooled in the game. What an absolutely useless exercise which will bear no answer.

All that said no one in their right mind would take Adams over Mckenzie. Mckenzies unique combination of the biggest leg in the AFL, height, leg speed and ability to rebound are as rare as hens teeth. Name one other player with that combination.

Adams will be very good but inside mids with crap disposal certainly hold far, far less currency. Regardless of how much of the ball he finds.

Agreed.

 

[Adam H]

Agreed.

Finally.

 

[the distributer]

That plays through the mid field why dont you accept that?

The entire argument was about a Suns poster stating McKenzie made his name as a midfielder, and as a midfielder Caddy and Adams are far inferior, clealy that argument has been put to rest, it was never about who's the better overall player.

 

[Adam H]

The entire argument was about a Suns poster stating McKenzie made his name as a midfielder, and as a midfielder Caddy and Adams are far inferior, clealy that argument has been put to rest, it was never about who's the better overall player.

You starting post stat averages though which really proves nothing.

 

[Mateyman]

What sport are you watching? Barely any players just play one position. He actually played deep defensive roles a lot of 2013 so do you even watch him play? Bit different to a flanker. As I said he is a mid and played almost half his career so far off a wing. Not really sure what your on about.

Well, for someone who's played so much midfield time, his stats are pretty rubbish. You'd expect someone who had played most of 2011 and 2012 apparently in the midfield to average more than 17 and 16 disposals respectively, but I suppose at least his great ball usage set up numerous goals from the midfield... oh wait, it didn't. Oh, maybe he's not such a good player after all.

 

[Mateyman]

That plays through the mid field why dont you accept that?

Cyril Rioli does stints in the midfield... I suppose he is a midfielder

 

[TheJaegerBomb]

Well, for someone who's played so much midfield time, his stats are pretty rubbish. You'd expect someone who had played most of 2011 and 2012 apparently in the midfield to average more than 17 and 16 disposals respectively, but I suppose at least his great ball usage set up numerous goals from the midfield... oh wait, it didn't. Oh, maybe he's not such a good player after all.

Oh yeah cos first year players must always be superstars in a wooden spoon side from day dot without a full pre-season (which to this day Mckenzie has still not done once). Really intelligent comment.

 

[the distributer]

Oh yeah cos first year players must always be superstars in a wooden spoon side from day dot without a full pre-season (which to this day Mckenzie has still not done once). Really intelligent comment.

Have you even read the argument you're contributing to mate? No ones saying Adams is a better player, we all know what The Cannon packs and we'd love to have him, anyone would love to have him, but you can't say he's a better midfielder than Adams ( who's a specialist inside mid) from what we've seen to date, McKenzie obviously has the bigger arsenal overall but that isn't what this ******ed (fueled by the finger's alt's) debates about.

I suggest you go back and read what started this crap.

 

[Billy#25]

Very funny. It appears everybody is right, but they are all arguing different arguments...I feel like I'm watching BlackAdder.

Just to help me out Adam H - what "role in midfield' was the Cannon playing? it might help me understand the discussion more given JaegerBomb had him playing deep in defence.

JaegerBomb - you are 100% right, except you haven't read the thread from the top. With a full pre-season, McKenzie might be an excellent midfielder. Right now, he is simply a bloody great back flanker and one we would love to have.

As for Adams and whether he was worth the debate - time will tell.
Good luck next year everybody.

 

[TheJaegerBomb]

Very funny. It appears everybody is right, but they are all arguing different arguments...I feel like I'm watching BlackAdder.

Just to help me out Adam H - what "role in midfield' was the Cannon playing? it might help me understand the discussion more given JaegerBomb had him playing deep in defence.

JaegerBomb - you are 100% right, except you haven't read the thread from the top. With a full pre-season, McKenzie might be an excellent midfielder. Right now, he is simply a bloody great back flanker and one we would love to have.

As for Adams and whether he was worth the debate - time will tell.
Good luck next year everybody.

Yeah Mckenzie would be an excellent midfielder but I would rather give him a full pre-season and develop him in to an AA HB flanker. Not sure he would push Bennell or Martin off a wing but he could certainly rotate there.

 

[TheJaegerBomb]

Have you even read the argument you're contributing to mate? No ones saying Adams is a better player, we all know what The Cannon packs and we'd love to have him, anyone would love to have him, but you can't say he's a better midfielder than Adams ( who's a specialist inside mid) from what we've seen to date, McKenzie obviously has the bigger arsenal overall but that isn't what this ******ed (fueled by the finger's alt's) debates about.

I suggest you go back and read what started this crap.

I honestly dont think its worth my time reading if it ends up in a comparison between Mckenzie and Adams. Ridiculous waste of time.

 

[the distributer]

I honestly dont think its worth my time reading if it ends up in a comparison between Mckenzie and Adams. Ridiculous waste of time.

Yet you found the time to reply to it? Talk about ridiculous wastes of time.

 

[TheJaegerBomb]

Yet you found the time to reply to it? Talk about ridiculous wastes of time.

I had to make sure it was known what a ridiculous discussion point it was.

 

[the distributer]

I had to make sure it was known what a ridiculous discussion point it was.

What that Adams has more midfield runs on the board? I know it's not an argument worth having.

next you be trying to argue Abletts a better ruckman then Cox.

 

[TheJaegerBomb]

What that Adams has more midfield runs on the board? I know it's not an argument worth having.

next you be trying to argue Abletts a better ruckman then Cox.

What are you even on about? Are you hearing yourself?

 

[the distributer]

What are you even on about? Are you hearing yourself?

Aren't you arguing McKenzies a better midfielder than Adams?

 

[TheJaegerBomb]

Aren't you arguing McKenzies a better midfielder than Adams?

No. I couldnt care less because its a pointless discussion as they are polar opposites. I am simply trying to point this out to you and your mates over there.

 

[the distributer]

No. I couldnt care less because its a pointless discussion as they are polar opposites. I am simply trying to point this out to you and your mates over there.

No ones saying Adams is a better player, clearly he isn't, I must have got you mixed up with someone else suggesting Macca was the better midfielder, sorry bout that.