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I reckon if you guys do this you'll win, Medhurst is a big game player & makes good decisions, i would take the punt Davis has had his chances.
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I reckon if you guys do this you'll win, Medhurst is a big game player & makes good decisions, i would take the punt Davis has had his chances.
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I couldn't believe we didn't dominate the ruck after Gardiner went down - very disappointed.
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In Goldy
Leon was a dud but I think he would offer up more in the midfield than Blair who sadly has run out of puff.
Would've liked Meds in for Leon but he's not match fit. Shame
In Goldy
Leon was a dud but I think he would offer up more in the midfield than Blair who sadly has run out of puff.
Would've liked Meds in for Leon but he's not match fit. Shame
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Blair was good in the first half but dropped off in the second, like most of our players. His ability to extract and dodge was negated by how the game became a big rugby scrum - there was no space, something which our mids thrive on. The only omission I would have is Leon. I'm torn between whether Medders or Goldsack come in. Our defensive unit was excellent apart from Harry, so unless Sack is going to tag Goddard I think we need the firepower from Medders, even if he has been out of the game a while.
To be fair to our small forwards, the forward line was being flooded which limited the opportunities for the smalls and most of the delivery was aimed at Cloke and Dawes who couldn't capitalise. They both missed several gettable chances each. We should have been about 12-5 to about 5-3 for the Sts early in the third but we were something like 7-11. That would have dealt Sts a psychological blow and given us a lift but instead they got a sniff. Hopefully there'll be less nerves next week and the boys can all bring their "A" game.
Earlier in the game I saw Dawes on the wing ignore a lead from Leon on the boundary near the 50 arc and instead bomb it long into a half forward pack only for the ball to rebound down the other end. That seemed to impact on Leon mentally. If it did he needs to harden up even if he was a better option that was ignored. He might be a bit too mentally fragile. I don't how you'd fire him up but he certainly needs a bit more ginger.
Davis seems to be the favorite scapegoat here but the way the game was played didn't do any of our small forwards any favors and all their stats show that. I'd say we had about 12 players who were below average. I'd keep the same team but tweak forward entry strategy a bit and ask for a bigger work rate all round. With a 62-35 inside 50 advantage we should have smashed them.
We've had a reprieve from GF nerves, can we just play our game and blow them away next week?
Earlier in the game I saw Dawes on the wing ignore a lead from Leon on the boundary near the 50 arc and instead bomb it long into a half forward pack only for the ball to rebound down the other end. That seemed to impact on Leon mentally. If it did he needs to harden up even if he was a better option that was ignored. He might be a bit too mentally fragile. I don't how you'd fire him up but he certainly needs a bit more ginger.
Davis seems to be the favorite scapegoat here but the way the game was played didn't do any of our small forwards any favors and all their stats show that. I'd say we had about 12 players who were below average. I'd keep the same team but tweak forward entry strategy a bit and ask for a bigger work rate all round. With a 62-35 inside 50 advantage we should have smashed them.
We've had a reprieve from GF nerves, can we just play our game and blow them away next week?
I actually think that the free was paid before Goddard dropped to his knees.
IN: Goldsack
OUT: Davis
The only reason Leon will stay in the team is because he can kick important goals at important times, as he showed yesterday. But didnt do enough to earn selection for mine. So in comes the versatile Goldsack who should be used as a defensive forward to stop S.Fisher's input on the game.
Lockyer and Medhurst are also options to come in for Davis. Cant see presti getting a run as N. Brown did a great job on Riewoldt.
OUT: Davis
The only reason Leon will stay in the team is because he can kick important goals at important times, as he showed yesterday. But didnt do enough to earn selection for mine. So in comes the versatile Goldsack who should be used as a defensive forward to stop S.Fisher's input on the game.
Lockyer and Medhurst are also options to come in for Davis. Cant see presti getting a run as N. Brown did a great job on Riewoldt.
IN: Goldsack
OUT: Davis
The only reason Leon will stay in the team is because he can kick important goals at important times, as he showed yesterday. But didnt do enough to earn selection for mine. So in comes the versatile Goldsack who should be used as a defensive forward to stop S.Fisher's input on the game.
Lockyer and Medhurst are also options to come in for Davis. Cant see presti getting a run as N. Brown did a great job on Riewoldt.
I agree. If Brown pulls up ok and his body/legs are healthy enough to run with Reiwoldt for 4 quarters he'll get another crack. If he is sore and leg weary and Presti is fresh and OK, then the decision could be interesting.
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Will Riewoldt know Brown's style of play? Is it wise to play him on him if Presti is available?
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It goes both ways though.
Will Brown now know more about Riewoldt and how he plays?
Unless there is something physically wrong with Nate, he plays, Presti has had too many little niggles and missed too much footy to come straight in and take Roo now.
And with Kosi playing more in the ruck, if Riewoldt started to tear Presti apart, he would have no one to play on for periods of the game.
Stick with Brown and Reid, they were very good yesterday.
Davis needs to go out, 5 kicks in 3 grand finals. He's now useless to us. Presti should come in. We lucked out with Brown's game on Roo, Brown plays his 50th game this weekend and Roo's captaining his third grand final. It takes extreme optimism too think Brown can replicate his form. That being said Brown played a ripper game and I thought Kozi got away from Reid a little bit. Maybe Reid's the unlucky one, I don't know. One thing's for sure though if Roo get's a sniff early on neither of Brown or Reid will be able to stop him and St.Kilda are premiers, no doubt about it. Presti is one of the rare players in the league who I'd back to possibly (big if) shut him down mid-match. All of this is assuming Presti is fit enough (no-one here knows if he is, no point in speculating if he is or isn't).
Brown or Reid out. Big call but it's just a big a call to assume that Brown can do the same job on Roo this week. If Reid get's dropped then Brown to Kozi. As for who to bring in for Davis. The options seem to be Goldsack or one of Medders/Jack/Tarks. I actually wouldn't mind Goldy coming in and Johnson to play more forward. He can find the goals and will be more useful than Davis, something a bit different. The other three all can bring something to the forward line. Medder's can be a big game player and put pressure on their backs in the process. We kicked 9 goals yesterday, putting the ball in Jack's hand 2-3 times and we might kick 10-12 goals and win a flag. Tark's is the vet, he's been there before.
In summary:
IN: Presti (if fit), Goldsack/Medders/Anthony/Tarks (leaning torwards the first 2)
OUT: Davis (no matter what), Brown/Reid (dependant on Presti, very unlucky but we need our best team out there. No room for sentimentality)
Brown or Reid out. Big call but it's just a big a call to assume that Brown can do the same job on Roo this week. If Reid get's dropped then Brown to Kozi. As for who to bring in for Davis. The options seem to be Goldsack or one of Medders/Jack/Tarks. I actually wouldn't mind Goldy coming in and Johnson to play more forward. He can find the goals and will be more useful than Davis, something a bit different. The other three all can bring something to the forward line. Medder's can be a big game player and put pressure on their backs in the process. We kicked 9 goals yesterday, putting the ball in Jack's hand 2-3 times and we might kick 10-12 goals and win a flag. Tark's is the vet, he's been there before.
In summary:
IN: Presti (if fit), Goldsack/Medders/Anthony/Tarks (leaning torwards the first 2)
OUT: Davis (no matter what), Brown/Reid (dependant on Presti, very unlucky but we need our best team out there. No room for sentimentality)
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Personally would have had the Inanimate Carbon Rod in this week...especially after another employee of the month award at the nuclear plant.
Davis is gone - Goldsack in. Would like to see Goldy go with Goddard whether Goddard is on the HBF or in the middle. Maybe Maxwell could share duties to give Goldy a break.
On a couple of occasions Kozi was able to beat him on a lead. Then again, it may have been another player and I've mistaken it for Kozi/Reid. Reid's been fantastic this year but Presti's better.
I had a chat with a few club greats today (won't name them as I feel it isn't relevant) and they were all of the opinion that, along with Davis, Blair has to go...From all reports the season is catching up with him and he is fatiguing. It was evident yesterday imo.
In: Goldsack, Lockyer
Out: Davis, Blair
They also mentioned Tarks was very close to selection this week, VERY close. He is a hard body and importantly can spot up a target inside 50.
I'm not sure what the club will do with Presti, but I agree with these changes that many of the greats were suggesting. Also the hard body of Medders wouldn't go a miss.
In: Goldsack, Lockyer
Out: Davis, Blair
They also mentioned Tarks was very close to selection this week, VERY close. He is a hard body and importantly can spot up a target inside 50.
I'm not sure what the club will do with Presti, but I agree with these changes that many of the greats were suggesting. Also the hard body of Medders wouldn't go a miss.
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Davis Out, Goldy in. Maybe even Beames out with Medhurst in. Beames was TERRIBLE.
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Malthouse should get over his personal feelings towards Medders and play him.
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You wouldn't want to change too much, I don't think. Medhurst should have been played more this year, so I don't think you should just plop him into a grand final. Lockyer has also missed too many matches IMO.
From all the suggestions in this thread, I tend to agree with DAVIS out, GOLDSACK in. You really need someone to restrict Goddard/Hayes, and you've proved you have the firepower to score goals without Medhurst. You win the inside 50 count again, and players like Swan, Pendlebury and Didak lift, you'll win. It's too risky to make too many changes. I think a lot of Collingwood players will be eager to make up for their last performances.
St Kilda were very good at restricting the way you play, so it'll be interesting to see if they can replicate that next week.
Edit: Forgot to mention that most of the Collingwood players will be better prepared for the grand final next week. Macaffer, Beams, Wellingham, Dawes, Blair, O'Brien and others (all playing their first grand final) will want to improve, so they should be given that opportunity.
From all the suggestions in this thread, I tend to agree with DAVIS out, GOLDSACK in. You really need someone to restrict Goddard/Hayes, and you've proved you have the firepower to score goals without Medhurst. You win the inside 50 count again, and players like Swan, Pendlebury and Didak lift, you'll win. It's too risky to make too many changes. I think a lot of Collingwood players will be eager to make up for their last performances.
St Kilda were very good at restricting the way you play, so it'll be interesting to see if they can replicate that next week.
Edit: Forgot to mention that most of the Collingwood players will be better prepared for the grand final next week. Macaffer, Beams, Wellingham, Dawes, Blair, O'Brien and others (all playing their first grand final) will want to improve, so they should be given that opportunity.
100% agree.
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B: Toovey - N. Brown - Maxwell
HB: Shaw - Reid - O'Brien
C: D. Thomas - Swan - Wellingham
HF: Didak - Cloke - Beams
F: Sidebottom - Dawes - Macaffer
FL: Jolly - Pendlebury - Ball
INT: Lockyer - Johnson - Goldsack - L. Brown
HB: Shaw - Reid - O'Brien
C: D. Thomas - Swan - Wellingham
HF: Didak - Cloke - Beams
F: Sidebottom - Dawes - Macaffer
FL: Jolly - Pendlebury - Ball
INT: Lockyer - Johnson - Goldsack - L. Brown
Davis has to go and Presti wont ne considered due to injury.
Goldsack should come in and follow Goddard wherever he goes. Malthouse needs to change his thinking about tagging in the midfield - he cut us too pieces doing whatever he wanted too.
Lockyer in for Blair.
So two changes -
IN: Lockyer, Goldsack
OUT: Davis, Blair
If they allow just one third man up in the ruck contest on Saturday, I will lose my sh*t
Goldsack should come in and follow Goddard wherever he goes. Malthouse needs to change his thinking about tagging in the midfield - he cut us too pieces doing whatever he wanted too.
Lockyer in for Blair.
So two changes -
IN: Lockyer, Goldsack
OUT: Davis, Blair
If they allow just one third man up in the ruck contest on Saturday, I will lose my sh*t
No way in hell should Lockyer play *shivers*
