Team vs Geelong

[Mad Bomber Sean]

Skippy &. Mcveigh are in for sure. Pace out in for reliability. Cant see the others playing at all. No chance for Nash & Lucas really. Don't know why they are mentio we really.would have loved to see Aitkinson & Danher this week though. Mooney & Milburn in for Cats. Makes sense to me.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

He hasn't been Milburn, Jason Blake, or even Henry Slattery; but he has been OK defensively. I CBF digging it up, but I'm sure Ant posted a list of his direct opponents throughout games, which showed your 'taken to the cleaners' comment to be incorrect. That and the fact that I watch games before commenting on them, have helped me to suggest that Myers has stifled his direct opponents' influence on the game.

So? You play whoever's put in front of you; Myers has done that, and kept his opponents quiet, which is his job. I'm not saying he should be picked this week, and I'm not even saying he'll be a great player, but for you to say he's been irrelevant defensively, is tripe.

Ant posted he kept Polkinghorne relatively quite... big *** deal. He was on Proud also at times and Rich and they had pretty good games. I didn't know his job was to stop goalscoring machines in Polkinghorne, Proud and Rich.

If you watch games before commentating then give me a run down on who he's played and who he has kept quiet and what ok jobs he's done. The only time he's kept his man quiet is when he's been sitting on the pine and that's been a fair bit.

How can he be ok defensively when he's been dropped twice and can't get a game with so many out.

You must have very low expectations in players to accept his performances so far have been anything other than tripe.

 

[SirJimi05]

Not saying you are right or wrong, but at least list his opponents and goals conceded as a starting point.

He doesn't have the faintest idea.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

He doesn't have the faintest idea.

How about you list who he's played on and who he's done well on.

 

[Tambu]

McVeigh is a very big inclusion, man I hope we can put in a good 4 quarter game and stay competitive against this mob.

It's the ultimate test for our blokes. Go Bombers!

EDIT: Whomb, how dare you steal my avatar

 

[yaco55]

Ant posted he kept Polkinghorne relatively quite... big *** deal. He was on Proud also at times and Rich and they had pretty good games. I didn't know his job was to stop goalscoring machines in Polkinghorne, Proud and Rich.

If you watch games before commentating then give me a run down on who he's played and who he has kept quiet and what ok jobs he's done. The only time he's kept his man quiet is when he's been sitting on the pine and that's been a fair bit.

How can he be ok defensively when he's been dropped twice and can't get a game with so many out.

You must have very low expectations in players to accept his performances so far have been anything other than tripe.

You are only looking at part of the story.

One on one defensively Myers has been more than adequate - except for the game against Carlton - and he paid the price by being dropped.

Elements such as disposal efficiency, finding the ball, agility etc have been below average.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

You are only looking at part of the story.

One on one defensively Myers has been more than adequate - except for the game against Carlton - and he paid the price by being dropped.

Elements such as disposal efficiency, finding the ball, agility etc have been below average.

How about you list who he's played on and who he's done well on.

 

[Kong]

Ant posted he kept Polkinghorne relatively quite... big *** deal. He was on Proud also at times and Rich and they had pretty good games. I didn't know his job was to stop goalscoring machines in Polkinghorne, Proud and Rich.

Like I've said, he can only play whoever's in front of him. He did his job in limiting the influence in that game.

If you watch games before commentating then give me a run down on who he's played and who he has kept quiet and what ok jobs he's done. The only time he's kept his man quiet is when he's been sitting on the pine and that's been a fair bit.

I'm going on what I can remember, which is:
R2 v Freo; Stephen Hill (5 posessions, 0 goals) & Brett Peake (11 posessions, 2 marks, 2 goals).
R3 v Carlton; Higgins (16 pos, 11 marks, 2 goals)
R5 v Collingwood; Brent Macaffer (11 pos, 5 marks, 1 goal)
R7 v Hawthorn; Osborne (11 pos, 4 marks, 0 goals)
R8 v St Kilda; Gwilt (13 pos, 5 marks, 0 goals).

5 games; 6 opponents, 5 goals.
Those aren't definitively the only match-ups from throughout the match, granted. However that's 5 goals between 6 players. On top of this, Myers also had similar (and in some cases better) influence on the game himself, but that's not the point I was trying to raise. Looking at those, Kelvin, I'd say he did OK defensively. Like I said, not terfific, but OK.

How can he be ok defensively when he's been dropped twice and can't get a game with so many out.

Because there have been players the coaching staff feel will add more, namely Dempsey, Slattery and Houli. Not a slap in the face if you ask me. He was dropped because he wasn't adding enough offensively; I feel his defensive work was, again, OK.

 

[Kong]

Whomb, how dare you steal my avatar

Take it as compliment

 

[canyoufeelit]

Skippy &. Mcveigh are in for sure. Pace out in for reliability. Cant see the others playing at all. No chance for Nash & Lucas really. Don't know why they are mentio we really.would have loved to see Aitkinson & Danher this week though. Mooney & Milburn in for Cats. Makes sense to me.

Dempesy is a big lose for us this week lets hope he gets up next week. The run off the half he provides is beyond crazy especially that goal against the saints a fortnight ago. Have a feeling Mcveigh and lovett will rotate throught the midfield.

 

[lemon chicken]

No brainer - McVeigh and Skipworth in.

+1. Daniher would be the only other i would have considered.

any examples where myers direct opponent has had a big influence on the game? myers has always held his opponent and at least broken even, i havent had any problemswith his defensive ability, he has had problems offensively which is a reason why dempsey is a lot better but against SJ i wouldnt want him to be trying to play off him and provide a target up the ground, give him a strictly lock down role.

Ohh Knights please 'NO'.

I'm not a fan of losing two fit running type players who have been playing all year and had full pre seasons and replacing them with two solid 'in and under types' who are not 100% match fit.

It's a massive risk IMHO.

The only think I can think is that Skippy and McVeigh are going to play predominantly forward with one of Stanton or Dyson to move to the back flank. That could work in playing small down forward and forcing the Geelong defence to play one on one.

Im pretty sure McVeigh is capable of playing defence. In fact Im certain of it.

Not a fan of skipwoth in for Dempsey at all.

Would have liked to have seen Atkinson get a go.

Why wouldnt it be McVeigh in for Dempsey?

 

[yaco55]

How about you list who he's played on and who he's done well on.

Kelvin - You are out of control !

You are making claims that Myers form has been catastrophic - Surely you would have facts and figures at the ready !

I have made a comment about one part of his game which has been satisfactory - But of course you choose to ignore my other posts about his

- lack of agility
- poor kicking
- poor recovery after contests

And i agreed with the selection panel that he should be dropped.

I have one final question

- What position can u see Myers playing in 3 years ?

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

I think McVeigh and Skippy coming in at the expense of Dempsey and NLM could be a good thing for this game as we need some tough bodies against the Cats.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

Like I've said, he can only play whoever's in front of him. He did his job in limiting the influence in that game.

I'm going on what I can remember, which is:
R2 v Freo; Stephen Hill (5 posessions, 0 goals) & Brett Peake (11 posessions, 2 marks, 2 goals).
R3 v Carlton; Higgins (16 pos, 11 marks, 2 goals)
R5 v Collingwood; Brent Macaffer (11 pos, 5 marks, 1 goal)
R7 v Hawthorn; Osborne (11 pos, 4 marks, 0 goals)
R8 v St Kilda; Gwilt (13 pos, 5 marks, 0 goals).

5 games; 6 opponents, 5 goals.
Those aren't definitively the only match-ups from throughout the match, granted. However that's 5 goals between 6 players. On top of this, Myers also had similar (and in some cases better) influence on the game himself, but that's not the point I was trying to raise. Looking at those, Kelvin, I'd say he did OK defensively. Like I said, not terfific, but OK.

Because there have been players the coaching staff feel will add more, namely Dempsey, Slattery and Houli. Not a slap in the face if you ask me. He was dropped because he wasn't adding enough offensively; I feel his defensive work was, again, OK.

Hill/Mundy(from what i recall), Peake, Wiggins, Macaffer/Lockyer, Osborne, Gwilt? Geary.... wow goalscoring machines they are. What a valid point you make. Guys that don't kick goals haven't kicked any on Myers.

If you've noticed his general play he has barely laid any tackles, missed a fair few, hardly any %1's. Not many contested possessions - 2 a game(I'm using Ant's floor method ) and apart from Belly the lowest game time on the ground due to him being terrible.

Anyway I'm done on the Myers topic, I'm not wasting my time anymore on it. If people think he's done ok then good luck to them. If people think he's starting to find form like a few posters a week or so ago then good luck to them.

Over and out on Myers.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

Kelvin - You are out of control !

Correct.... hence why I'm abstaining from posting on Myers issues. I hope I'm not like a junkie who just can't stop and comes back for more.

- What position can u see Myers playing in 3 years ?

Best bet would be for a midfield role like Ling, Watson, Kirk. Use his size and hopefully good tank to monster the smaller mids.

 

[james_omahoney]

Best bet would be for a midfield role like Ling, Watson, Kirk. Use his size and hopefully good tank to monster the smaller mids.

I actually agree with you on this. I see a lot of Watson-like potential in him.

 

[Skeeta Olly]

This is why we drafted Myers.

[YOUTUBE]mZymacYaAhE[/YOUTUBE]

Seems the fever + some more height has slowed him down as tad.

 

[SirJimi05]

Anyway I'm done on the Myers topic, I'm not wasting my time anymore on it. If people think he's done ok then good luck to them. If people think he's starting to find form like a few posters a week or so ago then good luck to them.

Over and out on Myers.

Finally! I think the whole Essendon board just breathed a rather large sigh of relief!

 

[Kong]

Finally! I think the whole Essendon board just breathed a rather large sigh of relief!

I bit my (internet) tongue after he called peace for the sake of this board. Oh well, maybe now we'll have some more intelligent discussions around here.

 

[Daytripper]

I bit my (internet) tongue after he called peace for the sake of this board. Oh well, maybe now we'll have some more intelligent discussions around here.

To be fair, Kelvin is one of the few posters who have any balance on the Myers issue.
He doesn't overtly criticise him. He merely points out to those posters who think he is the next coming of Jesus Christ that they might have to tone down their thinking.

He has been ordinary this year and if anyone goes and posts what a good season he has then they are entitled to have it thrown back in their faces.

I (and Kelvin) really hope he comes good but don't try and tell us that he is going to be a superstar or he played a good game when so far he has shown absoloutly nothing to indicate it.

 

[lamaros]

To be fair, Kelvin is one of the few posters who have any balance on the Myers issue.

Come again?

Kelvin is a player basher of the highest order. He just happens to be a little more articulate than someone like cawshezy, and keeps his sights narrowed on one or two specific players. His main problem is he over-reacts to expectations and seems to think that you can flog someone to death for not being a superstar because someone else thinks they'll be one.

The idea that anyone on this forum thinks Myers is having a great year and thus constant Myers bashing is needed in order to bring it back down to earth is absurd. No one thinks that and kelvin's blathering on about Myers at every chance he gets is simply a crude and childish vendetta.

 

[daffo]

I wouldn't mind seeing Nash get a game, Dempseys position will be between Myers and himself, and Nash has been ok at bendigo.

 

[nighthawk]

This is why we drafted Myers.

[youtube]mZymacYaAhE[/youtube]

Seems the fever + some more height has slowed him down as tad.

I'm no Myers hater, but that video was certainly not impressive.

 

[SDog]

looking at the VFL teams, bendigo didnt name skippy.

however myers, nash and lucas all there. suggest he will play against Geelong

 

[SirJimi05]

To be fair, Kelvin is one of the few posters who have any balance on the Myers issue.
He doesn't overtly criticise him. He merely points out to those posters who think he is the next coming of Jesus Christ that they might have to tone down their thinking.

Quotes please. You are like Kelvin. I can't recall one post from a poster talking up Myers in the way you and Kelvin make out. It's just that we don't have an anti-Myers agenda where we look for any and every opportunity to slag him off.

Good on Kelvin for putting a stop.