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coach beard said:
Didn't really like the last ep - felt the writing was a step down in quality from "Sunflowers" and "The Strings That Bind Us".
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Can't say that will be ever be one of my favourite episodes, but to me it felt like a draw of breath before they head towards the end.
 
The Flying Belgian said:
Can't say that will be ever be one of my favourite episodes, but to me it felt like a draw of breath before they head towards the end.
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By the way, is it just me or is the new acting GM of AFL Footy Ops Laura Kane a dead ringer for Barbara?

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The Flying Belgian said:
^^^ This is the subject matter I was referring to previously. Not all guys, but I think many will close themselves off from the message because they've been guilty of looking at such material on whatever sites, and like the players will need to be dragged into a more enlightened way of thinking. I'm not saying it's the only reason (some won't like the lack of football or the overall more serious tone or whatever), but that ep has one of the lowest ratings on imdb.
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Judging by the comments here, the Keeley and Jack storyline wasn't popular. That could be a big part of the low ratings. Was it all so they could make a point about online sexual image exploitation? It was very clumsily handled. Maybe audiences of a comedy show don't respond well to being hit over the head with a moral/social point to drag them into a more enlightened way of thinking.
 

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Social/Political commentary in TV Shows can work when its subtle and blended into the writing and storyline. However this requires a level of writing talent that most tv writers don't possess, so most of the time it comes across as heavy handed, clunky and out of place.

Someone described the locker room scene akin to attending a high school presentation about the dangers of alcohol.
 
Father Jack said:
We all suspend a fair bit of disbelief with this show, but I cannot believe for a second that any remotely competent organisation would try and force Keeley to release that kind of statement.
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This is a show about an american gridion coach being handed the coaching reigns of an english premier league side and 3 seasons later still knowing very little about soccer. this requires whopping suspension of disbelief.

i didnt need to suspend belief at all regarding the statement. It was a small business and it was clearly pushed by her girlfriend rather then the organisation. And it was requested never enforced.
 
Seeds said:
This is a show about an american gridion coach being handed the coaching reigns of an english premier league side and 3 seasons later still knowing very little about soccer. this requires whopping suspension of disbelief.

i didnt need to suspend belief at all regarding the statement. It was a small business and it was clearly pushed by her girlfriend rather then the organisation. And it was requested never enforced.
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Maybe if it were ten years ago the idea of a PR company (of all things) blaming a victim for their social media getting hacked may have possibly seemed plausible, but not today. It was only in the show because it was so obviously needed to drive the plot forward.
 
happy_eagle said:
Social/Political commentary in TV Shows can work when its subtle and blended into the writing and storyline. However this requires a level of writing talent that most tv writers don't possess, so most of the time it comes across as heavy handed, clunky and out of place.

Someone described the locker room scene akin to attending a high school presentation about the dangers of alcohol.
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Yeah, that is pretty much it.

Still think season 1 was a near perfect season of television, that came out at exactly the right time. Told a complete story where even though characters had their own journeys, it all felt connected to the larger picture.

But maybe more importantly they were all like 30 mins long. These 1 hour episodes are drainers and expose all the flaws.
 
Father Jack said:
Maybe if it were ten years ago the idea of a PR company (of all things) blaming a victim for their social media getting hacked may have possibly seemed plausible, but not today. It was only in the show because it was so obviously needed to drive the plot forward.
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Agreed, bring back the plausible plot lines about tying footballers’ penises together
 
Father Jack said:
Maybe if it were ten years ago the idea of a PR company (of all things) blaming a victim for their social media getting hacked may have possibly seemed plausible, but not today. It was only in the show because it was so obviously needed to drive the plot forward.
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It was her upper class girlfriend that was asking for the apology. The pr company thing was just a ruse. And it wasnt for being the victim of her social media being hacked but for the content on those videos.

upper class english society is still very old fashioned. They would find this stuff humiliating. Its completely believable.
 

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Father Jack said:
We all suspend a fair bit of disbelief with this show, but I cannot believe for a second that any remotely competent organisation would try and force Keeley to release that kind of statement.
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I think the subtext (which may just be me reading into it) is that Jack was really 100 percent behind the statement because she's disgusted with Keely and wanting to punish her in a way. So it's a personal attack dressed up and hidden in lawyerese to give Jack plausible deniability whole lashing out and trying to bend Keely into a person she approves of.
 
I could see a conclusion where Ted and Sassy end up together. Sassy has told Ted she doesn’t want to be with a broken man, and a large part of Ted’s journey (both this season and over the series) has been learning to let go of his former marriage, accept the “family” that he has and live his life in the now and future, rather than the past.

There’s clear chemistry and attraction there, and if the show is looking to complete Ted’s personal arc this would be a far more satisfying conclusion than returning to his ex, who has suggested at every turn that is not what she wants.
 
sorted said:
Back to form!

Not much Keeley and a trim run time of 43 minutes. Virtual team hugs. Good character development for Roy, Nate and Colin. The Isaac part was written clumsily (again) but the actor, Kola Bokinni, is doing a great job.
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Totally agree, they minimised the fluff and this was a really good episode.

I did like the use of anecdotes in this one. (Ted's Broncos friend, Roy's story about the expectant father)

The Isaac part was written a little clumsily but you are right he did pull it off. I did like the half time crowd stuff though - I didn't see that part coming and I thought it was a good vehicle for confronting the Colin/Isaac stuff.

The Nate and Rupert bit could have had a little more time dedicated to it - I would have liked the night to evolve and temptation/ego flattery to take a stronger foothold before Nate had his moment of clarity. BTW with Rupert - yeah he is a prick but he was also kind of weird today, anyone else think that?

Enjoyed Roy a bit more that episode, but one thing
I find is his posture often reminds me of that idiotic Adelaide Crows power stance lol

This ep was preachy, no, it had strong messages which I thought were all very good and well delivered. Especially with Colin (and Ted's anecdote) about progressing from tolerance/ambivalence to inclusion and support. And I know it was done for laughs and I'm being very picky/sensitive here, but the jokes about people's appearances ("hairy arse", "goblin king", some other bald remark) didn't seem to be on brand for this ep.
 
kickazz said:
Yeah both good moments. Had to rack my brain for the answer to that question - Eric certainly up there, bit of a fan of Ian Moss myself...
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Not even gonna touch " Best " but " fave ' ??

Probably Angus
 
kickazz said:
The Nate and Rupert bit could have had a little more time dedicated to it - I would have liked the night to evolve and temptation/ego flattery to take a stronger foothold before Nate had his moment of clarity. BTW with Rupert - yeah he is a prick but he was also kind of weird today, anyone else think that?
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I'm not really sure where they're going with his character, not sure if it's intentional at all but I kind of get the vibe Rupert is actually an incredibly lonely individual. His behaviour with Nate is a bit inconsistent, but I almost see him as viewing Nate as a sort of surrogate son or at least mentee who fulfils a need he has for validation of his lifestyle and having an actual emotional connection with someone.

Not really sure how the condescension towards Nate fits into that (perhaps that's a big part of how he flirts with women and throwing people off balance with random negativity to trigger vulnerability is just how he's trained himself to establish relationships), but it strikes me as somewhat odd Rupert seems so invested in making Nate think he's a cool dude and would be poor writing if it was just to slot him into the villainous plot device role.
 
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