The 2018 Footy Show - will there be a 2019 version?

[mr bagcroft]

I dont reckon I have missed many Footy Shows over its entire run...
God its diabolically shithouse now, I mean we all know that, but I'm not sure the many that havent watched it for years understand the vast scope of the shitness of which I speak.
Juvenile, purile unfunny embarassing garbage.
Fev has been a great addition (not!) with that ridiculous constant forced laugh.
KILL IT WITH FIRE, NOW !

 

[Plugger35]

I dont reckon I have missed many Footy Shows over its entire run...
God its diabolically shithouse now, I mean we all know that, but I'm not sure the many that havent watched it for years understand the vast scope of the shitness of which I speak.
Juvenile, purile unfunny embarassing garbage.
Fev has been a great addition (not!) with that ridiculous constant forced laugh.
KILL IT WITH FIRE, NOW !

I've given up watching it this year, prefer to watch The Front Bar which is a far better and funnier show.

Occasionally I flick back over to TFS and it just reminds me of why I don't watch it anymore, it's really gone downhill the last few years.

 

[Chicken Parma]

Last night's ratings:
Melbourne: Front Bar 281k, Footy Show 137k (I believe this is Front Bar's biggest win in Melb this year)
Perth: Front Bar 58k, Footy Show 34k
Adelaide: Front Bar 47k, Footy Show 26k
Combined: Front Bar 386k, Footy Show 197k

Source

 

[BobbyMorri]

The footy show can't move on with Sam still around. He is the main issue. He is stuck on a loop from the 1990's and he is the main reason they can't move on from this type of show.

I don't mind Sam. He was quality. But he hasn't changed and now it is just tiresome hearing all the same stuff time after time. And the people around him adapt to him.

Loved the front bar last night.

 

[mr bagcroft]

The footy show can't move on with Sam still around. He is the main issue. He is stuck on a loop from the 1990's and he is the main reason they can't move on from this type of show.

I don't mind Sam. He was quality. But he hasn't changed and now it is just tiresome hearing all the same stuff time after time. And the people around him adapt to him.

Loved the front bar last night.

What he have to change into exactly ?

 

[tigertigertiger]

Article title “the afl footy show host Eddie McGuire declares war on critics”


Not paying to read that but I’m guessing they’re well aware the show is on the brink and he’s having a tantrum?

 

[BobbyMorri]

What he have to change into exactly ?

not a clue. just something vastly different. atm, they are not funny or informative.

 

[wagstaff]

Article title “the afl footy show host Eddie McGuire declares war on critics”


Not paying to read that but I’m guessing they’re well aware the show is on the brink and he’s having a tantrum?

I’m guessing it will be a bit like his dummy spit on TFS in 2006 when Ch 9 lost the footy rights; he complacently thought he was on the winning side and can’t handle the reverse being the case.

 

[windyhill]

I’m guessing it will be a bit like his dummy spit on TFS in 2006 when Ch 9 lost the footy rights; he complacently thought he was on the winning side and can’t handle the reverse being the case.

All time hissy fit.

 

[tigertigertiger]

I’m guessing it will be a bit like his dummy spit on TFS in 2006 when Ch 9 lost the footy rights; he complacently thought he was on the winning side and can’t handle the reverse being the case.

find any footage of this?

 

[AM]

 

[mr bagcroft]

Last night's ratings:
Melbourne: Front Bar 281k, Footy Show 137k (I believe this is Front Bar's biggest win in Melb this year)
Perth: Front Bar 58k, Footy Show 34k
Adelaide: Front Bar 47k, Footy Show 26k
Combined: Front Bar 386k, Footy Show 197k

Source

Just wow.

 

[Topkent]

Always loved the footy show but it's lost its identity.

Used to be a comedy show using footy for its material, the players were funny and Sam was great at getting tv banter going.

However since Australia has become boring the players have become robots, the show moved towards becoming the MMM rub where Garry Jim Sam and Billy took the piss out of each other with token player involvement. I liked it, others didn't but it was still a funny show.

Now that Sam isn't the driver of the show anymore it's basically just ed talking to people that aren't very funny.


That's where the front bar swooped in, they got onto the former player market where the blokes haven't had every bit of personality beaten out of them and have 2 current comedians on there to talk to them.

 

[footyfan1978]

I've given up watching it this year, prefer to watch The Front Bar which is a far better and funnier show.

Occasionally I flick back over to TFS and it just reminds me of why I don't watch it anymore, it's really gone downhill the last few years.

It had a good 20 years life line based on the characters and players it mostly started with to rotate around. Those were guys still playing in the 90's and Sam Newman a survivor and link to the popular old days of World of Sport. Most of those characters were the Doug Hawkins, Jason Dunstall, Gary Lyon, Billy Brownless and David Schwarz types. Some went, some stayed. Brayshaw come on board as a host with Lyon and they all had chemistry with old Sam to talk a bit of footy and take the piss out of each other. But eventually only so much of that you can do. Sam has got less out of touch with week to week footy, got a lot older and the last hurrah was Lyon leaving the show with a real life connection to Billy killing off their on air and off air chemistry. They tried to re-boot it with different hosts like Madden, Craig Hutchinson and Eddy Ego but the team of people that were the lifeblood of show all gone. Just Sam left with no one to bounce off. I still watched bits and pieces two years ago but even then it was getting to very end of it's natural life cycle. Switched over once or twice all season to see types like Dane Swan etc on there but they are a generation or two of characters down the line from it's origins. Brayshaw saw the signs it needed to end and left. Only exists now probably because it somehow makes channel 9 a bit of money with sponsors ? They will probably milk that to no more left but the real show identity died two years ago. Sam should have pulled the plug but probably coin too good to not go on.

Any show than last 20 years has done more than enough. No show is ever going to be the same beyond that. Do not flog a dead horse. Let it go if you were a fan and kidding yourself it will ever return to it's heights. The fat lady was singing long time ago.

 

[Orange Agent]

Flicked over after Front Bar ended. They had Malthouse, Daisy Thomas along with Fev, Eddie, Sam and somebody else. Could not find less relevant people to have on to make a show about current day footy. Eddie is stuck in a timewarp, the other week I saw a bit with Kouta and Ang Christou. It's not funny, it's not relevant, it's not informative. Eddie was supposed to be the saviour, instead he has killed the show by trying to rehash shit that people liked 15 years ago. Fev is an absolute moron, acts like a child and thinks it's hilarious. They ended a segment with MM and Daisy having a kick to kick on the stage. FMD.

 

[weetert]

I always cringe when they try to introduce footage as part of a joke. E.g Fev's joke about the recruiters and Jaidyn Stephenson last night or Darcy vescio's joke when she was on. The delivery is just terrible and legitimately embarrassing.

 

[Mr X]

Flicked over after Front Bar ended. They had Malthouse, Daisy Thomas along with Fev, Eddie, Sam and somebody else. Could not find less relevant people to have on to make a show about current day footy. Eddie is stuck in a timewarp, the other week I saw a bit with Kouta and Ang Christou. It's not funny, it's not relevant, it's not informative. Eddie was supposed to be the saviour, instead he has killed the show by trying to rehash shit that people liked 15 years ago. Fev is an absolute moron, acts like a child and thinks it's hilarious. They ended a segment with MM and Daisy having a kick to kick on the stage. FMD.

I think part of Eddie's success originally was he kinda bridged the generational gap in his TV presenting style, and is a real showman in the style of the 50s/60s TV host. The rise of the Footy Show in the 90's came in the wake of World of Sport, and the aging of the first generation of TV stars, (Richards, Dyer, Davis etc) That propelled the show forward for many years. It appealed to baby boomers and a new market who had no exposure to football as a prime time entertainment product.

Long story short - after sustained success they got ahead of themselves, took it for granted and drank too much of their own bathwater. It really started to become non-compulsory viewing when they started plugging "The House of Bulger" and the like as the thing to stay tuned for. I think there is only so long you can keep going back to the same well to draw on humor before people tire of it. They picked on the same kind of person (overall) on street talk. Went with the same gags week in, week out to panelists etc - IMO this is where boning Trevor Marmalade was a mis-step, he at least could think on his feet and bring some variety and originality.

Been doomed for years, and definitely should have called it a day at the end of the Brayshaw/Lyon era. It is not even embarrassing anymore, just almost completely irrelevant.

 

[peternorth]

behind herald suns paywall

WHAT TRIGGERED THE FOOTY SHOW’S DEMISE
IT was once unmissable television, pulling in millions of viewers. But The Footy Show has hit the skids. And insiders can pinpoint the exact moment the downward spiral began.

here it is!

ASK Channel 9 insiders the date that changed the course of The Footy Show and they will nominate Saturday February 13, 2016.

That is when the network released a statement saying that Garry Lyon was stepping away from the program.

The former Demons champion had been co-hosting The Footy Show with James Brayshaw, along with Sam Newman since 2006 and it was still rating strongly — but that disintegrated in a blink.

Billy Brownless was devastated to discover that Lyon, his colleague and close friend was having an affair with ex-wife Nicky.

As controversy swirled, Lyon stood down from The Footy Show and other media commitments citing mental health issues.

Lyon’s shock exit and the affair hoopla is a trauma that Nine insiders believe The Footy Show never recovered from. It set off a chain of events that have ramifications to this day.

“That is when everything changed,” a Nine source says.

The immediate effect was that the Lyon-Brayshaw hosting combo was no more.

Lyon went on indefinite leave and Nine had to contemplate a replacement.

But just as damaging was the fact that the jokey camaraderie that had fuelled The Footy Show’s success was stripped bare.

RIFT KILLED FOOTY SHOW’S ‘GOOD TIMES’
Lyon and Brownless had worked together for 15 years but now their friendship was in tatters and seemingly irreparable.

Former Melbourne teammate David Schwarz described the situation as “a tragedy” because of “shocking decisions that had been made by consenting adults that have crossed a line”.

Radio’s Francis Leach pondered whether the revelations would kill The Footy Show saying “the fun’s over and it’s pretty hard to go back to the good times”.

In March 2016, The Footy Show featured an emotional interview with Brownless — choking back tears — who said “it’s just wrong” and “a good mate wouldn’t do that”.

It was distressing viewing.

The lighthearted banter that had fuelled The Footy Show for more than 20 years had been shattered. Its soul had been ripped out.

From then on, an air of sadness has hung over The Footy Show. What had been a fun escape from everyday problems for hundreds of thousands of viewers had turned into a turgid soap opera.

Brayshaw soldiered on and was confident he could host The Footy Show solo while Lyon was on extended leave (few believed he would return) but Nine had other ideas.

RINGING THE HOSTING CHANGES
At the end of March, Nine announced that Rebecca Maddern, fresh from Seven, would co-host alongside Brayshaw.

It was an uneasy fit. Blokey humour had been The Footy Show’s mainstay but now it was a new era and everyone struggled to adapt.

Too often it felt like Brayshaw, Newman and panellists including Brownless and Shane Crawford were second-guessing themselves — never quite sure what they should or shouldn’t say for a laugh.

The Footy Show got a spike for Maddern’s debut but that quickly evaporated.

By the end of the year, Brayshaw was gone after a protracted contract dispute.

Time for another revamp, with Craig Hutchison replacing Brayshaw for the 2017 season, but that was another stumble.

Hutchison was the wrong fit. Nine sources now say that management rushed the decision — something they came to regret.

When Lyon stepped down, AFL legend Kevin Bartlett said on SEN that he believed The Footy Show would overcome the short-term agony.

“As long as there is Sam Newman, The Footy Show goes on,” Bartlett said.

But even Newman wouldn’t have reckoned on the dizzying number of hosting changes that have rocked The Footy Show in recent times.

It was Newman’s silent protest last July — aimed at Nine management and not Hutchison — that triggered the most recent shake-up.

Within 24 hours, Hutchison was gone and McGuire was back in the hot seat.

“Yesterday all hell broke loose after Sam’s effort on Thursday night and from about 12.30-2.30 it was all systems go,” McGuire told ABC radio.

During all of this upheaval, Channel 7 decided that The Footy Show was vulnerable.

HOW THE FRONT BAR WON THE WAR

SEVEN TAKES AIM WITH THE FRONT BAR
They saw a weakness and exploited it by bringing The Front Bar from late night into direct competition.

It turned out to be a genius move. If Lyon and Brayshaw had still been at the helm of The Footy Show, would that have ever happened — you would have to doubt it.

McGuire returned to The Footy Show with the best of intentions — to resurrect the program that was so close to his heart — but we now know that is likely an impossible task.

McGuire is remaining positive. He knows from his experience at Collingwood that sheer persistence counts for a lot.

Right now The Front Bar is the ratings frontrunner but it is nowhere near the sensation The Footy Show was in its heyday. People could tire of it over time. The tables could be turned.

“I believe in the last eight weeks The Footy Show has been really back in form, which takes a little while to do when you’ve got a new host and people stepping in and out,” McGuire said.

Let’s not forget that The Footy Show could have easily died a death after Eddie McGuire left in 2005 to become Nine CEO. Finding a replacement was no easy task.

Eddie McGuire during his first stint as host.
It was the combination of McGuire, Sam Newman and Trevor Marmalade that made The Footy Show, which premiered in 1994, such a ratings phenomenon.

Lyon and Brayshaw weren’t fully able to capture that lighting in a bottle but they gave it a good shake. Credit them for giving The Footy Show an extra decade of shelf life.

Any television program that has lasted more than 700 episodes and 24 years deserves to be celebrated.

Last week Lyon said on radio that The Footy Show is “probably coming towards its swan song”.

“Let’s not rewrite history, this was the biggest show in town for 20-odd years,” Lyon said. “There’s a new boy on the block (The Front Bar) and good on them.”

There are certainly people at Nine that believe Lyon’s sudden exit in 2016 hastened that decline.

As Herald Sun reader Gianna wrote in My Say “the stoush between Garry Lyon and the other guy didn’t help”.

 

[weetert]

Wonder what this bloke will say tonight

 

[Grand Uncle Horace]

Wonder what this bloke will say tonight

Gobble Gobble, as per usual

 

[Jcpdragonx]

It had a good 20 years life line based on the characters and players it mostly started with to rotate around. Those were guys still playing in the 90's and Sam Newman a survivor and link to the popular old days of World of Sport. Most of those characters were the Doug Hawkins, Jason Dunstall, Gary Lyon, Billy Brownless and David Schwarz types. Some went, some stayed. Brayshaw come on board as a host with Lyon and they all had chemistry with old Sam to talk a bit of footy and take the piss out of each other. But eventually only so much of that you can do. Sam has got less out of touch with week to week footy, got a lot older and the last hurrah was Lyon leaving the show with a real life connection to Billy killing off their on air and off air chemistry. They tried to re-boot it with different hosts like Madden, Craig Hutchinson and Eddy Ego but the team of people that were the lifeblood of show all gone. Just Sam left with no one to bounce off. I still watched bits and pieces two years ago but even then it was getting to very end of it's natural life cycle. Switched over once or twice all season to see types like Dane Swan etc on there but they are a generation or two of characters down the line from it's origins. Brayshaw saw the signs it needed to end and left. Only exists now probably because it somehow makes channel 9 a bit of money with sponsors ? They will probably milk that to no more left but the real show identity died two years ago. Sam should have pulled the plug but probably coin too good to not go on.

Any show than last 20 years has done more than enough. No show is ever going to be the same beyond that. Do not flog a dead horse. Let it go if you were a fan and kidding yourself it will ever return to it's heights. The fat lady was singing long time ago.

Good post.

Each guy is pretty much a character, almost like a sitcom.

Lyon could take an endless amount of abuse, Sam was the emperor, could insult anyone at will, Brayshaw was the wuss and Crawf was Sams bitch. The players shut up for 2 hours and it still worked.

Now there's no chemistry. They're lost, they use "big" name guests as a selling point when viewers just want to see the same people hang shit on each other.

 

[peternorth]

Any discussion about sam murray?

 

[Registered User]

Any discussion about sam murray?

nup, not that I heard

 

[peternorth]

nup, not that I heard

hmmmmm

 

[purplearmy]

The show is a dead duck.

Honestly haven’t watched it in years. The introductions at the start were always way too long and by that stage I turned off out of boredom. It just wasn’t funny anymore and dragged out.

The Front Bar is genuinely funny and has a better pace.