Star Wars The Acolyte

[SM]

I'm not unhappy, again you've misunderstood. I was saying that no more acolyte meaning no plagueis show, isn't what I consider a huge loss.

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Bloody hell.

 

[JackOutback]

Plagueis is one of those ideas that people say they want but is probably better in theory than action. He’s intriguing because he’s only hinted at in the movies and sounds badass, plus there’s a generally well liked book that runs off the reader’s imagination. I’m not convinced any kind of TV show or movie would be able to get the tone right or deliver a satisfying story. Could end up a real Book of Boba Fett rather than an Andor.

As for original ideas, absolutely they should be looking for more original ideas rather than constantly leaning on characters we liked from earlier movies. edgie is not wrong there. Of course, there’s room for both. Ideally, movies should be original ideas that hint at familiar events or times, while legacy characters and ideas could be streaming events.

 

[SM]

Plagueis is one of those ideas that people say they want but is probably better in theory than action. He’s intriguing because he’s only hinted at in the movies and sounds badass, plus there’s a generally well liked book that runs off the reader’s imagination. I’m not convinced any kind of TV show or movie would be able to get the tone right or deliver a satisfying story. Could end up a real Book of Boba Fett rather than an Andor.

As for original ideas, absolutely they should be looking for more original ideas rather than constantly leaning on characters we liked from earlier movies. edgie is not wrong there. Of course, there’s room for both. Ideally, movies should be original ideas that hint at familiar events or times, while legacy characters and ideas could be streaming events.

Cutting out all characters created by Lucas arbitrarily is ****ing dumb if it's done without nuance or reason. It's just as dumb as having characters constantly cameo in each other's shows when they don't need to. There's such a thing as a balanced approach.

 

[Royces Hart]

Plagueis is one of those ideas that people say they want but is probably better in theory than action. He’s intriguing because he’s only hinted at in the movies and sounds badass, plus there’s a generally well liked book that runs off the reader’s imagination. I’m not convinced any kind of TV show or movie would be able to get the tone right or deliver a satisfying story. Could end up a real Book of Boba Fett rather than an Andor.

As for original ideas, absolutely they should be looking for more original ideas rather than constantly leaning on characters we liked from earlier movies. edgie is not wrong there. Of course, there’s room for both. Ideally, movies should be original ideas that hint at familiar events or times, while legacy characters and ideas could be streaming events.

That’s why I never want to see a Yoda origin story or exploration of his species/homeworld.

I don’t need to know that they live in pineapples under the sea.

 

[Gasometer]

That’s why I never want to see a Yoda origin story or exploration of his species/homeworld.

I don’t need to know that they live in pineapples under the sea.

I would see a Skeleton Crew II made of teenage Yodas

 

[JackOutback]

Cutting out all characters created by Lucas arbitrarily is ****ing dumb if it's done without nuance or reason. It's just as dumb as having characters constantly cameo in each other's shows when they don't need to. There's such a thing as a balanced approach.

That seems like an extreme interpretation of Edgie’s point of view. He just said we don’t need a movie or show for every character referenced in earlier films. Which is fair. I remember at the beginning, when it seemed like there were origin films in place for Yoda, Boba Fett, Lando, Solo etc. It seemed like too much. I was against the Solo movie because I thought the role was too iconic to recast, at least at that time. Some could work, but you have to be judicious about which characters you lean in on. Maybe Plagueis is one of those that would work, maybe not.

 

[SM]

That seems like an extreme interpretation of Edgie’s point of view. He just said we don’t need a movie or show for every character referenced in earlier films. Which is fair. I remember at the beginning, when it seemed like there were origin films in place for Yoda, Boba Fett, Lando, Solo etc. It seemed like too much. I was against the Solo movie because I thought the role was too iconic to recast, at least at that time. Some could work, but you have to be judicious about which characters you lean in on. Maybe Plagueis is one of those that would work, maybe not.

Thats not what he said. I clarified and he said we don't need shows of any Lucas characters, whether seen or unseen.

 

[manureid]

Lucas characters or not Lucas characters argument i care not. This show was just shit. Bad story telling bad acting. Terrible.

More Andor, less of this crap please.

 

[SM]

I tend to find with a lot of this stuff that if people like a product - e.g. Andor - then 'woke nonsense' is ignored (Andor is heavily political, has openly gay characters and a non-white lead), but if people don't engage with a product, then they blame their dislike of it on 'wokeness' rather than critically assessing why they don't like something. Essentially something like Andor was facing an uphill battle for the start, and such was its appeal that it overcame this issue.

Something like Skeleton Crew, by contrast, has a white male lead and somehow I suspect it won't be viewed quite so critically.

Interesting take SM.