Mega Thread The Adam Goodes Megathread - Now with Added Poll!

[Chief]

the potential to incite violence.

Against who? By who?

 

[Bazzar]

Lots of people have said there's an element of racism to the booing, and any reasonable person with half a brain would conclude there is at least an element.

But to my knowledge, Goodesy's only comment on why people are booing him has been "I don't know".

My point is that some people here have been attributing all manner of words and actions to Adam Goodes without the remotest grounding in fact.

After 553 pages, it mightn't be a bad idea to clarify what's real and what's BS about the saga.

Lots of people said it's racist but Adam wasn't one of them, are they all mind readers now.

 

[mxett]

You still banging on about this?

My view is that football is played on the field, and the focus of footballers should be on the field, not on the crowd, or more pointedly, sections of the opposition crowd. Dustin Martin's prison arms, Mark Murphy's finger, and Jetta's spear throwing 'war dance' are unacceptable. Why? Because they are provocative and have the potential to incite violence. Sadly Gillon McLachlan was too frightened to acknowledge the latter out of political correctness.

People compare the 'war dance' with the traditional ancestral war cry, Haka in NZ. The big difference is that the Haka is directed at the opposition team.

I agree the war dance was a bad move on Goodes' part, it was directed at the opposition and only served to increase the tension between both parties. What Goodes should have done was walk over to the opposition section and personally shake hands with every Carlton fan he could. IMO this would have done far more to diffuse the situation than a dance that only inflamed it. ut again, Goodes does not deserve to be continually tormented for a mistake

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

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well the next time i see a white australian blame their current negative circumstances on gallopoli maybe i'll be more inclined to believe you

 

[jakson68]

Have you read this?

http://www.bigfooty.com/news/2015/08/confessions-of-a-booer/

It is quite good and will clear things up for you: you will feel better and have a few of your worries allayed.

Just read it Chief, not a bad read and it makes sense, people generally can become sheep and just follow the crowd.
As for the "go back to the zoo" comment, either get off the piss, or go home and look in the mirror and have a good look at yourself, because that shit isn't needed at our game.

 

[Gongswan]

I don't boo players, and I'm starting to find this booing uncomfortable - but I don't think it's racist, more just the mob mentality.


The AFL have made it worse, a lot of people don't like them, and when they try and tell people how they can barrack/Boo at a game, it was always going to cause problems.

Jetta doing that dance shouldn't be acceptable either - if the AFL want to put a stop to this, they need to stop having double standards.

DOZENS OF PLAYERS GET BOOED - but they've singled Goodes out like he's special, and they've made a sport of it.

many, many players get boo'd, this is very true, I have never seen the systematic and inhrained level of it before, and I'm old

 

[Gongswan]

well the next time i see a white australian blame their current negative circumstances on gallopoli maybe i'll be more inclined to believe you

not racist at all

 

[Gongswan]

Wow, I always thought of the great rivalry between Sydney and WCE was based on respect. In the end, one premership each seems about right does it not?

did to me

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

not racist at all

finally you say something correct!

 

[DesertRoo]

2008? Seriously? is that when the booing started, that's a long time to hold a grudge, and you know, to me Richie, a grudge is simply a place to pork your corr

I'm pretty sure the chaser boys wrote a song about Goodes 'even pricks turn into top blokes after being heckled'

Remove your rose coloured glasses. People haven't rejected Goodes message.. They have rejected Goodes.

Most people with an education higher than year 7 know about the problems aboriginals face.

 

[Gongswan]

well it's obvious, isn't it? they are just waiting, and busting for the uppity darkies to challenge the status quo; to challenge the comfortable lies they tell themselves. then when this happens the racists will have a field day. frothing at the mouth in a rabid fit as they boo their evil little hearts out.

keep your heads down fellas if you know what's good for ya. the racists have more than enough "boo"s for you all.

 

[Gongswan]

finally you say something correct!

 

[Gongswan]

I'm pretty sure the chaser boys wrote a song about Goodes 'even pricks turn into top blokes after being heckled'

Remove your rose coloured glasses. People haven't rejected Goodes message.. They have rejected Goodes.

Most people with an education higher than year 7 know about the problems aboriginals face.

well, I did year seven when it was first form, so you know

 

[JohnnyFontane90]

another political rant from waleed aly...

 

[DesertRoo]

well, I did year seven when it was first form, so you know

So are you admitting that your own lack of education on the matter. Might be a reason you don't understand why people are rejecting Goodes not his message.

 

[Sttew]

Against who? By who?

All it would take is for one idiot in the crowd to jump the fence or turn on opposition supporters. If you don't think provocative gestures aimed at section of the crowd could incite violence, then read the following:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...itch-CSKA-Sofia-fans-pre-season-friendly.html

 

[Santana]

I've changed my position on this. I'm against the booing now, only because it's the only way to stop this complete and other wankfest for Goodes over the last fortnight. It's just unbearable now.

I'd hate to see how Goodes' would have reacted if he had received the kind of actual racist abuse the likes of Jackie Robinson got back in the day.

 

[Gongswan]

I agree the war dance was a bad move on Goodes' part, it was directed at the opposition and only served to increase the tension between both parties. What Goodes should have done was walk over to the opposition section and personally shake hands with every Carlton fan he could. IMO this would have done far more to diffuse the situation than a dance that only inflamed it. ut again, Goodes does not deserve to be continually tormented for a mistake

You still banging on about this?

My view is that football is played on the field, and the focus of footballers should be on the field, not on the crowd, or more pointedly, sections of the opposition crowd. Dustin Martin's prison arms, Mark Murphy's finger, and Jetta's spear throwing 'war dance' are unacceptable. Why? Because they are provocative and have the potential to incite violence. Sadly Gillon McLachlan was too frightened to acknowledge the latter out of political correctness.

People compare the 'war dance' with the traditional ancestral war cry, Haka in NZ. The big difference is that the Haka is directed at the opposition team.

Meh, you look at the people who are offending you when you talk back

 

[Gongswan]

All it would take is for one idiot in the crowd to jump the fence or turn on opposition supporters. If you don't think provocative gestures aimed at section of the crowd could incite violence, then read the following:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...itch-CSKA-Sofia-fans-pre-season-friendly.html

the UK has had fenced off sections for suporters for many years and riots to go with htem, hte comparison is ridiculous

 

[Sttew]

Meh, you look at the people who are offending you when you talk back

What?

 

[Gongswan]

What?

Incapable of understanding? that explains a lot, Virgin mnd, never penetrated by an original thought

 

[Sttew]

the UK has had fenced off sections for suporters for many years and riots to go with htem, hte comparison is ridiculous

Well I'd bet someone from the AFL has already had a "quiet" word with all concerned and "suggested" the war dance not be directed at opposition supporters.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Lots of people said it's racist but Adam wasn't one of them, are they all mind readers now.

So are you saying he did say it? Show me one verified quote.

 

[Sttew]

Incapable of understanding? that explains a lot, Virgin mnd, never penetrated by an original thought

Resorting to vitriol is not a good look!!

The article link I posted was not in the UK. I was merely demonstrating that we cannot dismiss the possibility of someone in the crowd taking offence at a 'war dance' and jumping the fence.

 

[Chief]

All it would take is for one idiot in the crowd to jump the fence or turn on opposition supporters. If you don't think provocative gestures aimed at section of the crowd could incite violence, then read the following:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...itch-CSKA-Sofia-fans-pre-season-friendly.html

This is about soccer. In Bulgaria. With two teams fighting and the fans got involved.

Nothing to do with the present situation unless you are saying "somewhere in the world fans HAVE invaded the pitch and chased players off the field".

Which has nothing to do with this anyway.