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Let's not overreact to one loss shall we.
No good taking Boland to be the drink boy again,leave him here to play some shield cricket.Same with Maxwell,needs some red ball cricket.the same XI will saddle up in 4 weeks time in the 1st test in new zealand.
others in the squad will probably be renshaw, boland and morris.
i doubt they'll take a huge squad seeing its 2 back to back tests and in any case could have the likes of inglis and murphy over there pretty quick in need.
If we go with the current batting lineup NZ Will cream us at home. Green is not a top 6 batsman and Smith is not an opener. I still have my doubts about Marsh as a consistent top 6 batsman also. With Labuschagne badly out of form our batting is woeful and sure enough NZ will prepare seaming pitches that expose this weakness.the same XI will saddle up in 4 weeks time in the 1st test in new zealand.
others in the squad will probably be renshaw, boland and morris.
i doubt they'll take a huge squad seeing its 2 back to back tests and in any case could have the likes of inglis and murphy over there pretty quick in need.
No good taking Boland to be the drink boy again,leave him here to play some shield cricket.Same with Maxwell,needs some red ball cricket.
Similar thoughts but this could be a very strong shield side the Victs field in the latter half of the current shield season.Can not see any Vics being picked for the NZ tour.i personally think we've seen the last of Boland play test cricket for Australia.
i personally think we've seen the last of Boland play test cricket for Australia.
No good taking Boland to be the drink boy again,leave him here to play some shield cricket.Same with Maxwell,needs some red ball cricket.
Need another fast bowler to be on stand bye,let him play some cricket.he's still next cab off the rank at the moment and will only play the 2nd test in nz if one of the big 3 break down in the 1st test.
8 months will then elapse and he'll be 35 and a half come the start of next summer, so he will be moved on from then surely.
Batting line-ups ofIf we go with the current batting lineup NZ Will cream us at home. Green is not a top 6 batsman and Smith is not an opener. I still have my doubts about Marsh as a consistent top 6 batsman also. With Labuschagne badly out of form our batting is woeful and sure enough NZ will prepare seaming pitches that expose this weakness.
I'm not sure we are a cricketing superpower as such. India is still the team to beat in all formats.
When it comes to on the field then if that is true then no one is oneI'm not sure we are a cricketing superpower as such.
I guess winning world cups and test championships don't count then..
Australia clean sweeps the home summer?
'Too easy, the pitches are roads, touring teams are crap, Test cricket is dying, rabble rabble rabble'
Australia loses a Test at home?
'End of an era, only going down from here, players are too old, they all have poor techniques, it's over'
I would say that Australian 'fans' would have to be some of the worst in the English speaking world.
We knew that after sandpapergate but this thread is a reminder, we aren't dealing with the brightest people here.
Im not saying this IS happening, please don’t misinterpret this.
And I personally don’t think this would happen because the population base is just too big and the infrastructure is too good for it to ever drop off to the same extent.
But there are some minor parallels in recent series to what was starting to happen to the Windies by the early to mid 90s.
Essentially by the time Australia beat them and by the time that famous 1999 series rolled around, the Windies were still competing but they were doing it on the back of what was still a very formidable bowling attack. Up until Bishop finished up in 1998, they still more or less always had Walsh and Ambrose and at least one other quick of relatively world class quality and that was ensuring that they stayed competitive. Their batting line up however had been whittled down to Lara, Chanderpaul who had yet to reach the sort of level that he would find post-2000 where his average climbed past 50, and Jimmy Adams who’s career started spectacularly (he averaged mid 60s approaching his 20th test and scraped home at a tad over 40 when he retired). Carl Hooper was ever present but was low 30s and it was only a late career resurgence after the turn of the century where he averaged 50 as captain that took it up into the mid 30s.
The likes of Keith Arthurton were tried and failed. Sherwin Campbell and Stuart Williams were continual failures, Adrian Griffith likewise, Junior Murray was not a patch on Dujon as a keeper.
Now again I’m not saying for a second that the current Aussie team is in that boat. But there are similar patterns in that those West Indies batsmen around the stars (think Khawaja and Smith for Australia now) would periodically pop up with a big score to allow their bowlers to do what they did best, and it would be enough for them to keep competing and things carried on.
Then suddenly those bowlers weren’t there anymore and it was Franklyn Rose, Reon King, Nixon McLean, Vasbert Drakes, Merv Dillon trying to become Curtly Ambrose and Courtney Walsh and Ian Bishop, and when the Windies DID find some batting - Sarwan, Chanderpaul making more runs, Gayle arrived, Wavell Hinds formed an ok partnership with him, Lara continued, Ridley Jacobs was a fine keeper batsman, Hooper had his resurgence, the bowling wasn’t enough to win them more games.
As I said I severely doubt Australia will ever fall away like the West Indies but I wouldn’t be surprised as the batting goes through a transition, if they suddenly discover a handful of capable replacements for the guys that they have lost (Warner) and will lose soon (Smith, Khawaja) but that they find themselves unable to replace such an unbelievable attack.
So basically what you are saying is that Australia's world-leading bowling attack will be hard to replace when they retire.
Thanks for the hot take, chief![]()
Historically Australia are clearly the super power, in test cricket easily most successful test team with multiple dominant eras and 6 time odi champs as well, the fact people are crying about current side shows how good australia have been people are so spoiled even having just a very solid side seems like end of the world for them.
Need another fast bowler to be on stand bye,let him play some cricket.
The thing is, anyone who comes in is unlikely to be a newbie, this isn’t an afl side bottoming out. They’ll most like be 25+ with 5+ years of FC cricket at a minimum. There may be the odd youngster in the mix, but i doubt there will be many if any.I think what will be interesting to see is whether Andrew McDonald's hands off coaching style will be effective once the old guard start to retire.
It's proven to be an extremely effective method of coaching for these blokes who are all well established in International Cricket and know their own needs. While we haven't always looked great you can't argue with results.
Hey may want to keep that approach as the side starts to swap out for younger blokes, but will it work? You need a lot more oversight and training hours in to develop the newbies, whether he completely changes tact or simply splits the training out to reflect the different parts of the team will be an interesting watch.
I can't wait to read this thread after the Black Caps destroy Australia 2-0 in the upcoming test series in NZ.