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I'm being serious btw when I say Glennon and Kaepernick are the most attractive QBs; because they look so unique and interesting, a sense of angelic in their faces/aura/eyes
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Manning had every convenience given to him yet repeatedly choked time and time again, so much so that his two Super Bowl wins, arguably, were because he was carried by his defenses. I'll happily argue Elway over Manning.ridiculous
Saying they have no business in the top 5 is ridiculousManning had every convenience given to him yet repeatedly choked time and time again, so much so that his two Super Bowl wins, arguably, were because he was carried by his defenses. I'll happily argue Elway over Manning.
No, it's really not. Neither have have any business being in the discussion for top 5 and your Broncos bias is clouding your judgement. Elway, on second thought, perhaps I'd be willing to reconsider.Saying they have no business in the top 5 is ridiculous
If Elway had Davis his whole career he'd be indisputably the GOAT. Just like if Brady only had Belichick for 5 or so years he be seen as a perennial choker who miraculously won 2 SB's at the beginning/end of his career on the kl back of Belichick
I've definitely come around to this way of thinking...
Name me a QB that has won the Superbowl with a piss-poor defense?? It just doesn't happen. So yeah, it's probably not the most accurate way to judge QBs. All QBs need a competent defense to win a Superbowl, no matter who they are, or how good they are.
Guys like Brady, Manning, Marino, Montana, probably have the best QB brains we're ever likely to see. But they had/have physical limitations to their games that they overcome because their mental game is out of this world.
My choice doesn't change though... he's got the best of everything!
This is a false equivalence. Otto Graham had Paul Brown as coach. Does this diminish Grahams output?Saying they have no business in the top 5 is ridiculous
If Elway had Davis his whole career he'd be indisputably the GOAT. Just like if Brady only had Belichick for 5 or so years he be seen as a perennial choker who miraculously won 2 SB's at the beginning/end of his career on the kl back of Belichick
It doesn't diminish anything. You don't get it, sorryThis is a false equivalence. Otto Graham had Paul Brown as coach. Does this diminish Grahams output?
Does Marino get judged differently because Don Shula was his coach?
No. Its a rubbish argument
Oh I get it allright, you are a Brady hater. Anything to twist Elway and Peyton Manning into some sort of relevance. I'm calling you out.It doesn't diminish anything. You don't get it, sorry
I am... that's the way you look at this. Have you read any of GGs posts in this thread explaining exactly this?You cannot use BB to deflect Bradys achievements. Unless you are willing to do so for others
You just don't get itI am... that's the way you look at this. Have you read any of GGs posts in this thread explaining exactly this?
No, I get it. Tom Brady is literally GodYou just don't get it
Why does ausbacker talk like he thinks he knows everything?Manning had every convenience given to him yet repeatedly choked time and time again, so much so that his two Super Bowl wins, arguably, were because he was carried by his defenses. I'll happily argue Elway over Manning.
Otto grahamIf there were a Mount Rushmore of the NFL, which four people would grace it?
Take joe Namath out of that list.Kurt Warner
Steve Young
Warren Moon
Norm Van Brocklin
Sammy Baugh
Ben Roethlisberger
Kenny Stabler
Kenny Anderson
Joe Namath
Bert Jones
Roger Staubach
Fran Tarkenton
Bernie Kosar
Brian Sipe
(no order there, just further names to try to sort after Brees>Kelly>Elway)
Otto graham
Jerry rice
Barry sanders
Tom Brady
Cheaters can't be GOATs