Society & Culture The BigFooty Guide to getting the non-gender specific person of Your Desire (Part 8)

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Really confused as to what to do

Went on probably 5 or 6 dates with this guy from Tinder. Let me just preface by saying that most of these dates were us just talking and enjoying each other's company.
Nothing physical at all, conversation didn't even once deviate towards anything sexual.

The second date he told me he was after a relationship, but that was really all he'd shown me in terms of interest. He didn't necessarily say he wanted a relationship with me, and he didn't seem to act it.

It got to a point where we'd hang out for 8-9 hours straight just walking, talking, eating, chatting or doing, I suppose, coupley shit like going to board game cafes.

But then at the end of each date, it was always a swift goodbye, no kiss. He didn't make a move at all, didn't seem to be a complimenter/affectionate, and was hard to read, so I figured maybe he just wanted to be friends. I'd cut it short - 'seeya' - if we dawdled for too long.

So over the span of six odd dates I start gaining a decent interest in the guy. He makes me laugh until I bawl my eyes out, conversation hasn't been dying, and he's more than happy to do pointless shit with me. Didn't seem to flinch when I told him about my real emotional shortcomings and my rough upbringing. Reciprocated with his own ****ed up tales of woe. The only thing really lacking was the physical connection.

Yesterday we spent all day together, going from markets for lunch, to dinner to dessert. Overall a v nice day. He'd started putting his arm around me and being a lot more touchy in general. Just juvenile shit like trying to tickle me, when I'm severely ticklish. For the most part, it was very tame but I got the message he was very interested in me. Then we get to dessert.

After spending 9 bloody hours together, topic of conversation flips to people watching and guessing peoples' fetishes. He (says he) thought I had asked him to guess mine, and it had been mentioned that I was a sub somewhere along the way, so he said he thinks I could be into rough play.

Firstly I freeze up because I'm caught off guard after hours of sexless chat. I tell him that he'd be right, and then I turn it back on to him and tell him I think he seems like he'd be into a more vanilla style.

He starts shaking. I mean quivering, from his hands, to his lips and cheeks. He's gone red and over the span of the next five minutes he goes through probably eight glasses of water.
"Actually, it's a part of me I've repressed for my entire life. I'm very much a dom. I like the idea of tying someone up and edging them."

He tells me, "I haven't explored this side of me much at all, mostly because I think it ties in very closely with my upbringing. I feel like I want to dominate women to 'get back' at them for how they/my mother treated me growing up. And I think that's possible now because I'm more conventionally attractive now compared to how I was growing up."

Throughout his entire spiel, he's staring me in the eye and rubbing his hands together like Mr Burns. It seems almost scripted.


Then he comes out and says,
"You say I'm not a complimenter. Well, I'll just get it out on the table. You just have this way of opening me up.


I think you're very hot, I like you, and I love spending time with you. When you laugh uncontrollably, there's just something about you. Of course it's great that we could be very sexually compatible and I'd like to test some things on you, but I also like that we can talk about things like astral projection and the dismemberment of Jamal Khashoggi."

I don't know how to respond between noting his sudden avalanche of body language and processing what he has to say, so I awkwardly chip in with "well, if ya can't talk at length about the slaughter of Jamal Khashoggi, what's the point?".

I was just quite startled. He went from cool and collected to seething with this sadistic sexual steam out of nowhere. After all was said and done, he was there just sort of bustling in his seat, laughing at the fact he's shaking and that he "has so much adrenaline right now". Then we just silently stared into each other's eyes over a plate of pancakes.

I asked him "what now?", which he took as a token to invite me to the disabled toilets. I declined, and said I'd had enough for the day and was very tired, which I was. We head on home. He says he's glad it's all out on the table, and we talk about other stuff.

As we're chatting, he mentions that he'd gone for a run at midnight the other day. I ask him why. He initially says because he "just felt like it". Moments later corrects himself and says "Actually, if you want the truth, I felt terrible and just needed an out. Probably has a lot to do with my self-hatred issues." He starts crying.

Beyond the events of dessert, I really liked this guy.

I don't even necessarily mind his emotional baggage.

Just think that maybe there are a few red flags and that maybe he should deal with his issues before he jumps into anything with me. I just am not sure how to approach this. He seems so genuine, but he seems he has such potential to be so sinister

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Really confused as to what to do

Went on probably 5 or 6 dates with this guy from Tinder. Let me just preface by saying that most of these dates were us just talking and enjoying each other's company.
Nothing physical at all, conversation didn't even once deviate towards anything sexual.

The second date he told me he was after a relationship, but that was really all he'd shown me in terms of interest. He didn't necessarily say he wanted a relationship with me, and he didn't seem to act it.

It got to a point where we'd hang out for 8-9 hours straight just walking, talking, eating, chatting or doing, I suppose, coupley s**t like going to board game cafes.

But then at the end of each date, it was always a swift goodbye, no kiss. He didn't make a move at all, didn't seem to be a complimenter/affectionate, and was hard to read, so I figured maybe he just wanted to be friends. I'd cut it short - 'seeya' - if we dawdled for too long.

So over the span of six odd dates I start gaining a decent interest in the guy. He makes me laugh until I bawl my eyes out, conversation hasn't been dying, and he's more than happy to do pointless s**t with me. Didn't seem to flinch when I told him about my real emotional shortcomings and my rough upbringing. Reciprocated with his own f’ed up tales of woe. The only thing really lacking was the physical connection.

Yesterday we spent all day together, going from markets for lunch, to dinner to dessert. Overall a v nice day. He'd started putting his arm around me and being a lot more touchy in general. Just juvenile s**t like trying to tickle me, when I'm severely ticklish. For the most part, it was very tame but I got the message he was very interested in me. Then we get to dessert.

After spending 9 bloody hours together, topic of conversation flips to people watching and guessing peoples' fetishes. He (says he) thought I had asked him to guess mine, and it had been mentioned that I was a sub somewhere along the way, so he said he thinks I could be into rough play.

Firstly I freeze up because I'm caught off guard after hours of sexless chat. I tell him that he'd be right, and then I turn it back on to him and tell him I think he seems like he'd be into a more vanilla style.

He starts shaking. I mean quivering, from his hands, to his lips and cheeks. He's gone red and over the span of the next five minutes he goes through probably eight glasses of water.
"Actually, it's a part of me I've repressed for my entire life. I'm very much a dom. I like the idea of tying someone up and edging them."

He tells me, "I haven't explored this side of me much at all, mostly because I think it ties in very closely with my upbringing. I feel like I want to dominate women to 'get back' at them for how they/my mother treated me growing up. And I think that's possible now because I'm more conventionally attractive now compared to how I was growing up."

Throughout his entire spiel, he's staring me in the eye and rubbing his hands together like Mr Burns. It seems almost scripted.


Then he comes out and says,
"You say I'm not a complimenter. Well, I'll just get it out on the table. You just have this way of opening me up.


I think you're very hot, I like you, and I love spending time with you. When you laugh uncontrollably, there's just something about you. Of course it's great that we could be very sexually compatible and I'd like to test some things on you, but I also like that we can talk about things like astral projection and the dismemberment of Jamal Khashoggi."

I don't know how to respond between noting his sudden avalanche of body language and processing what he has to say, so I awkwardly chip in with "well, if ya can't talk at length about the slaughter of Jamal Khashoggi, what's the point?".

I was just quite startled. He went from cool and collected to seething with this sadistic sexual steam out of nowhere. After all was said and done, he was there just sort of bustling in his seat, laughing at the fact he's shaking and that he "has so much adrenaline right now". Then we just silently stared into each other's eyes over a plate of pancakes.

I asked him "what now?", which he took as a token to invite me to the disabled toilets. I declined, and said I'd had enough for the day and was very tired, which I was. We head on home. He says he's glad it's all out on the table, and we talk about other stuff.

As we're chatting, he mentions that he'd gone for a run at midnight the other day. I ask him why. He initially says because he "just felt like it". Moments later corrects himself and says "Actually, if you want the truth, I felt terrible and just needed an out. Probably has a lot to do with my self-hatred issues." He starts crying.

Beyond the events of dessert, I really liked this guy.

I don't even necessarily mind his emotional baggage.

Just think that maybe there are a few red flags and that maybe he should deal with his issues before he jumps into anything with me. I just am not sure how to approach this. He seems so genuine, but he seems he has such potential to be so sinister

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Bid him farewell
 

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He tells me, "I haven't explored this side of me much at all, mostly because I think it ties in very closely with my upbringing. I feel like I want to dominate women to 'get back' at them for how they/my mother treated me growing up. And I think that's possible now because I'm more conventionally attractive now compared to how I was growing up."

I think you're very hot, I like you, and I love spending time with you. When you laugh uncontrollably, there's just something about you. Of course it's great that we could be very sexually compatible and I'd like to test some things on you, but I also like that we can talk about things like astral projection and the dismemberment of Jamal Khashoggi."

These parts are disturbing.

Sounds like he could be a loose cannon and unpredictable if you were both alone together in the bedroom.

I'd end it before you get in too deep.
 
Really confused as to what to do

Went on probably 5 or 6 dates with this guy from Tinder. Let me just preface by saying that most of these dates were us just talking and enjoying each other's company.
Nothing physical at all, conversation didn't even once deviate towards anything sexual.

The second date he told me he was after a relationship, but that was really all he'd shown me in terms of interest. He didn't necessarily say he wanted a relationship with me, and he didn't seem to act it.

It got to a point where we'd hang out for 8-9 hours straight just walking, talking, eating, chatting or doing, I suppose, coupley s**t like going to board game cafes.

But then at the end of each date, it was always a swift goodbye, no kiss. He didn't make a move at all, didn't seem to be a complimenter/affectionate, and was hard to read, so I figured maybe he just wanted to be friends. I'd cut it short - 'seeya' - if we dawdled for too long.

So over the span of six odd dates I start gaining a decent interest in the guy. He makes me laugh until I bawl my eyes out, conversation hasn't been dying, and he's more than happy to do pointless s**t with me. Didn't seem to flinch when I told him about my real emotional shortcomings and my rough upbringing. Reciprocated with his own f’ed up tales of woe. The only thing really lacking was the physical connection.

Yesterday we spent all day together, going from markets for lunch, to dinner to dessert. Overall a v nice day. He'd started putting his arm around me and being a lot more touchy in general. Just juvenile s**t like trying to tickle me, when I'm severely ticklish. For the most part, it was very tame but I got the message he was very interested in me. Then we get to dessert.

After spending 9 bloody hours together, topic of conversation flips to people watching and guessing peoples' fetishes. He (says he) thought I had asked him to guess mine, and it had been mentioned that I was a sub somewhere along the way, so he said he thinks I could be into rough play.

Firstly I freeze up because I'm caught off guard after hours of sexless chat. I tell him that he'd be right, and then I turn it back on to him and tell him I think he seems like he'd be into a more vanilla style.

He starts shaking. I mean quivering, from his hands, to his lips and cheeks. He's gone red and over the span of the next five minutes he goes through probably eight glasses of water.
"Actually, it's a part of me I've repressed for my entire life. I'm very much a dom. I like the idea of tying someone up and edging them."

He tells me, "I haven't explored this side of me much at all, mostly because I think it ties in very closely with my upbringing. I feel like I want to dominate women to 'get back' at them for how they/my mother treated me growing up. And I think that's possible now because I'm more conventionally attractive now compared to how I was growing up."

Throughout his entire spiel, he's staring me in the eye and rubbing his hands together like Mr Burns. It seems almost scripted.


Then he comes out and says,
"You say I'm not a complimenter. Well, I'll just get it out on the table. You just have this way of opening me up.


I think you're very hot, I like you, and I love spending time with you. When you laugh uncontrollably, there's just something about you. Of course it's great that we could be very sexually compatible and I'd like to test some things on you, but I also like that we can talk about things like astral projection and the dismemberment of Jamal Khashoggi."

I don't know how to respond between noting his sudden avalanche of body language and processing what he has to say, so I awkwardly chip in with "well, if ya can't talk at length about the slaughter of Jamal Khashoggi, what's the point?".

I was just quite startled. He went from cool and collected to seething with this sadistic sexual steam out of nowhere. After all was said and done, he was there just sort of bustling in his seat, laughing at the fact he's shaking and that he "has so much adrenaline right now". Then we just silently stared into each other's eyes over a plate of pancakes.

I asked him "what now?", which he took as a token to invite me to the disabled toilets. I declined, and said I'd had enough for the day and was very tired, which I was. We head on home. He says he's glad it's all out on the table, and we talk about other stuff.

As we're chatting, he mentions that he'd gone for a run at midnight the other day. I ask him why. He initially says because he "just felt like it". Moments later corrects himself and says "Actually, if you want the truth, I felt terrible and just needed an out. Probably has a lot to do with my self-hatred issues." He starts crying.

Beyond the events of dessert, I really liked this guy.

I don't even necessarily mind his emotional baggage.

Just think that maybe there are a few red flags and that maybe he should deal with his issues before he jumps into anything with me. I just am not sure how to approach this. He seems so genuine, but he seems he has such potential to be so sinister

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Normally I'd say pursue it for the lolz, but there is a good chance he is going to blast your head off then turn the shotgun on himself. Please check out of this relationship ASAP.
 
These parts are disturbing.

Same- that particular line sent a chill down my spine tbh.

Also the fact he's never displayed any "normal" sexual behaviour eg. kissing, but then gets off his nut hot when CG mentions being dominated (not that there is absolutely nothing wrong with that when its 100% consensual + safe) and wants to take her in the toilet?!?.
 
Also the fact he's never displayed any "normal" sexual behaviour eg. kissing, but then gets off his nut hot when CG mentions being dominated
That's a very good pick-up, actually. This is why I go to BF for objective, anonymous opinions. Flew right over my head and I tend to let emotions cloud my judgment.

He did mention he's not very affectionate because his parents weren't when they were together. But where do you draw the line and decide to part from whatever you're exposed to growing up?

Just a damn shame he's crazy. We really hit it off



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Couple of paragraphs in I was certain he was just going to be a virgin and embarrassed about telling you and then I read this:

He starts shaking. I mean quivering, from his hands, to his lips and cheeks. He's gone red and over the span of the next five minutes he goes through probably eight glasses of water.

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This for me was also a big alarm bell:

As we're chatting, he mentions that he'd gone for a run at midnight the other day. I ask him why. He initially says because he "just felt like it". Moments later corrects himself and says "Actually, if you want the truth, I felt terrible and just needed an out. Probably has a lot to do with my self-hatred issues." He starts crying.

As someone who has been halfway through a Psychology degree for the last three years, I'd suggest you look up Emotional Dysregulation Catgirl (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emotional_dysregulation )
 
Sorry to hear you're going through that :( So many red flags there though. Agree with craigos above, check out emotional dysregulation. Losing control when he realised he could "dominate" you, when there's been no sexual action prior is just freaky. Cut him loose

I feel like I want to dominate women to 'get back' at them for how they/my mother treated me growing up - Pretty much every serial killer has made a comment like this at some stage. Ed Kemper hated his mum, used that anger and went for drives (or walks in old mates case) at night and targeted uni students, and then got his mum eventually.

Stay safe!
 
He starts shaking. I mean quivering, from his hands, to his lips and cheeks. He's gone red and over the span of the next five minutes he goes through probably eight glasses of water.
"Actually, it's a part of me I've repressed for my entire life. I'm very much a dom. I like the idea of tying someone up and edging them."

He tells me, "I haven't explored this side of me much at all, mostly because I think it ties in very closely with my upbringing. I feel like I want to dominate women to 'get back' at them for how they/my mother treated me growing up. And I think that's possible now because I'm more conventionally attractive now compared to how I was growing up."
That's not a dom, that's a dangerous person with a lot of baggage.

He's not looking for a healthy power exchange or dynamic where he's looking after you based on what he's said his motivations are
 
Sorry to hear you're going through that :( So many red flags there though. Agree with craigos above, check out emotional dysregulation. Losing control when he realised he could "dominate" you, when there's been no sexual action prior is just freaky. Cut him loose

I feel like I want to dominate women to 'get back' at them for how they/my mother treated me growing up - Pretty much every serial killer has made a comment like this at some stage. Ed Kemper hated his mum, used that anger and went for drives (or walks in old mates case) at night and targeted uni students, and then got his mum eventually.

Stay safe!

SK Sunday Ed Kempers ep is ****ing terrifying. Cut off their heads apparently then sexually assaulted them... ? And he picked up many many hitchhikers and perfected "talking to women" and making them feel at ease before he killed. V intelligent he was ed.
 
SK Sunday Ed Kempers ep is ******* terrifying. Cut off their heads apparently then sexually assaulted them... ? And he picked up many many hitchhikers and perfected "talking to women" and making them feel at ease before he killed. V intelligent he was ed.

Worst part about Kemper is that he'd cut off the heads, perform irrumatio on them (including his own mum's head) and I think he buried one or two of the earlier ones in his backyard facing his mum's room so that "people would look up to her". Crazy guy. Thankfully he'd be a once in a lifetime sicko and not likely to ever have too many copy cats
 
Worst part about Kemper is that he'd cut off the heads, perform irrumatio on them (including his own mum's head) and I think he buried one or two of the earlier ones in his backyard facing his mum's room so that "people would look up to her".

I know the bible says 'judge not lest ye be judged' but I'm just gonna come right out and say it, this Ed Kemper guy, I mean this guy was a real jerk!
 

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