The Bigfooty Liverpool Thread

[jod23]

Thank god Alonso rejected us. Arne Slot is my hero.

It's starting to become quite a thing isnt it.

I didnt think it would go this well at all. Particularly when we brought in basically nobody in the summer.

16 games under Slot now in the League, League Cup and the Champions League and we've gone...

14-1-1.

That's incredible to be fair. With the only blemishes on the record a pretty good draw away from home against Arsenal and a shock loss at home to Forest.

Apparently we had an easy run of fixtures to start the season and this epically difficult run was to be the making of us.

Chelsea W
RB Leipzig W
Arsenal D
Brighton W
Brighton W
Leverkusen W
Villa
Southampton
Real Madrid
Man City

I mean...

What is even going on??

Villa, Madrid and City will still be tough games for sure. But we've negotiated this tough period almost flawlessly so far.

 

[jod23]

Klopp who?

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Blasphemy to be fair.

I love Arne, but none of this is possible without Klopp.

Remember what we were like before he arrived. He changed everything. He is our Shankly, now hopefully Slot does the Paisley role.

 

[jod23]

Our PL to lose this season. City are in a massive slump and Arsenal aren't as big a threat as last season – need to capitalise.

A Rodri sized slump. They wont go away though, they will find a way, they always do.

 

[The Punter]

It's starting to become quite a thing isnt it.

I didnt think it would go this well at all. Particularly when we brought in basically nobody in the summer.

16 games under Slot now in the League, League Cup and the Champions League and we've gone...

14-1-1.

That's incredible to be fair. With the only blemishes on the record a pretty good draw away from home against Arsenal and a shock loss at home to Forest.

Apparently we had an easy run of fixtures to start the season and this epically difficult run was to be the making of us.

Chelsea W
RB Leipzig W
Arsenal D
Brighton W
Brighton W
Leverkusen W
Villa
Southampton
Real Madrid
Man City

I mean...

What is even going on??

Villa, Madrid and City will still be tough games for sure. But we've negotiated this tough period almost flawlessly so far.

I have a theory on this.

Most new high profile managers bring in new players who they like or have collected.

I think part of the reason the transition has been so effective is Slot decided "these players are really good, let's back them in to play in my system before I look elsewhere" and that is the reason they've have bought in and are doing so well. So far it's a fantastic zag to a Ten Hag style zig (all ETH did was bring in former Ajax players).

Slot obviously has strong views on training and strategy: no manager can get to this level without that. But other than that, he's avoided upheaval for its own sake and trusted players who have proven track records, and he's being rewarded for it.

 

[lmach]

A Rodri sized slump. They wont go away though, they will find a way, they always do.

We have to pull far enough away that when they eventually do find their mojo again we're too far out of sight. I'm not so sure they'll be able to end the season in classic City fashion without Rodri though.

 

[Cooldude]

Bundesliga feels weak this season, we've played two of their top 4, one of them their reigning champs and they feel underwhelming. Then you have Bayern being shit in CL then actually leading the league still

It seems we've navigated the past 3 weeks of pretty tricky fixtures comfortably, we'll see where we're at come January since our December is very very tough

 

[Zidane98]

Our PL to lose this season. City are in a massive slump and Arsenal aren't as big a threat as last season – need to capitalise.

Our squad is so thin in midfield. Great results now, let's see what happens in winter with a fixture pile up and multiple injuries in midfield.

 

[Cooldude]

Also, you win nothing in start of Nov, things can change quickly, we'll see how we do come Feb or whether we work in the transfer market, but I'm still happy for CL qualification this season

 

[QuietB]

A Rodri sized slump. They wont go away though, they will find a way, they always do.

Not without Rodri they won't - the stats don't lie.

It is mental how many games Liverpool are winning. Liverpool have lost one and drawn one this season - and it is November. It is crazy.

 

[Zidane98]

Also, you win nothing in start of Nov, things can change quickly, we'll see how we do come Feb or whether we work in the transfer market, but I'm still happy for CL qualification this season

Spot on.

Winning a title with a single purchase of Chiesa for 10m would be certainly against the odds.

Right now we are in good form and grinding out results. The real litmus test will be when we have a few poor results, fixture pile up and 2-3 key outs all at the same time. That's coming, if we can navigate it that would be huge.

I'm concerned about a run deep into the League Cup. We'd have FA Cup, League Cup & CL all to deal with in Jan.

 

[Zidane98]

I have a theory on this.

Most new high profile managers bring in new players who they like or have collected.

I think part of the reason the transition has been so effective is Slot decided "these players are really good, let's back them in to play in my system before I look elsewhere" and that is the reason they've have bought in and are doing so well. So far it's a fantastic zag to a Ten Hag style zig (all ETH did was bring in former Ajax players).

Slot obviously has strong views on training and strategy: no manager can get to this level without that. But other than that, he's avoided upheaval for its own sake and trusted players who have proven track records, and he's being rewarded for it.

The hard part for Slot is when it comes time replacing Mo/Virg/Trent/Robbo/Ali. All are in their 30s(Trent aside) and all are stalwarts from Jurg's generation.

With Mo & Virg that will be up to him to replace them whether it is in 2025 or 2027 ( if they extend for 2 more seasons).

Replacing Trent will be more difficult if we can't get a new deal over the line. Slot may have to rejig his entire strategy as very few can offer what Trent does at RB in terms of creativity, playmaking and / or delivery from wide areas.

Allison seems to already have a successor in place if he moves on in 2027.

Robbo is the other issue. I suspect we may accept a decent bid for him in summer from a non PL club. FSG need to sign a new younger version of Robbo in their early 20s that. Zm give us 7-8 seasons of top class service.

 

[kane249]

Spot on.

Winning a title with a single purchase of Chiesa for 10m would be certainly against the odds.

Right now we are in good form and grinding out results. The real litmus test will be when we have a few poor results, fixture pile up and 2-3 key outs all at the same time. That's coming, if we can navigate it that would be huge.

I'm concerned about a run deep into the League Cup. We'd have FA Cup, League Cup & CL all to deal with in Jan.

At least there's no AFCON to navigate through as well.

 

[GOALden Hawk]

Spot on.

Winning a title with a single purchase of Chiesa for 10m would be certainly against the odds.

Right now we are in good form and grinding out results. The real litmus test will be when we have a few poor results, fixture pile up and 2-3 key outs all at the same time. That's coming, if we can navigate it that would be huge.

I'm concerned about a run deep into the League Cup. We'd have FA Cup, League Cup & CL all to deal with in Jan.

True but jag 3 points against Madrid and we could probably rest players for one if not both of the CL fixtures as we’d already be in the top 8. It’s the Christmas New Year PL fixture crush that worries me.

 

[Jars458]

Time to get excited. We are doing very well and maybe it’s our year . Sure it’s tough but let’s enjoy it.

 

[SC_Power]

Pretty boring first half haha.

No real jeopardy in the game cos of the expanded CL.

Yeah, luckily we avoided a Euro SuperLeague hey?


Or did we?

 

[SC_Power]

It's starting to become quite a thing isnt it.

I didnt think it would go this well at all. Particularly when we brought in basically nobody in the summer.

16 games under Slot now in the League, League Cup and the Champions League and we've gone...

14-1-1.

That's incredible to be fair. With the only blemishes on the record a pretty good draw away from home against Arsenal and a shock loss at home to Forest.

Apparently we had an easy run of fixtures to start the season and this epically difficult run was to be the making of us.

Chelsea W
RB Leipzig W
Arsenal D
Brighton W
Brighton W
Leverkusen W
Villa
Southampton
Real Madrid
Man City

I mean...

What is even going on??

Villa, Madrid and City will still be tough games for sure. But we've negotiated this tough period almost flawlessly so far.

Meh…. [/justkidding]



What is more amazing, a table with Man Utd in the top 6 with a positive GD.

 

[jod23]

The hard part for Slot is when it comes time replacing Mo/Virg/Trent/Robbo/Ali. All are in their 30s(Trent aside) and all are stalwarts from Jurg's generation.

With Mo & Virg that will be up to him to replace them whether it is in 2025 or 2027 ( if they extend for 2 more seasons).

Replacing Trent will be more difficult if we can't get a new deal over the line. Slot may have to rejig his entire strategy as very few can offer what Trent does at RB in terms of creativity, playmaking and / or delivery from wide areas.

Allison seems to already have a successor in place if he moves on in 2027.

Robbo is the other issue. I suspect we may accept a decent bid for him in summer from a non PL club. FSG need to sign a new younger version of Robbo in their early 20s that. Zm give us 7-8 seasons of top class service.

We have TAA's replacement already. Bradley is an excellent footballer.

He wont give you what TAA has but then nobody really will, so trying to replace TAA in a like for like situation just wont happen as he's a bit of a unicorn at RB.

Best case scenario is just not having to replace him at all if he signs a new contract but that does seem unlikely at the moment.

 

[Jars458]

We have TAA's replacement already. Bradley is an excellent footballer.

He wont give you what TAA has but then nobody really will, so trying to replace TAA in a like for like situation just wont happen as he's a bit of a unicorn at RB.

Best case scenario is just not having to replace him at all if he signs a new contract but that does seem unlikely at the moment.

Bradley is excellent. TAA looks completely gone and I think he is making a huge mistake

 

[RossFC]

U21s beat Blackpool's senior side in a pen shoot in the EFL Trophy. Each team got a point for a 0-0 draw, and the U21s got an extra point for winning the shootout 7-8.

XI: Davies, Pitt, Spearing, Jonas, Norris, Corness, Morton, Kelly, Hill, Pilling, Cannonier.
Subs: Bradshaw, O’Connor, Furnell-Gill, Sonni-Lambie, Figueroa, Ahmed

 

[The Punter]

The hard part for Slot is when it comes time replacing Mo/Virg/Trent/Robbo/Ali. All are in their 30s(Trent aside) and all are stalwarts from Jurg's generation.

With Mo & Virg that will be up to him to replace them whether it is in 2025 or 2027 ( if they extend for 2 more seasons).

Replacing Trent will be more difficult if we can't get a new deal over the line. Slot may have to rejig his entire strategy as very few can offer what Trent does at RB in terms of creativity, playmaking and / or delivery from wide areas.

Allison seems to already have a successor in place if he moves on in 2027.

Robbo is the other issue. I suspect we may accept a decent bid for him in summer from a non PL club. FSG need to sign a new younger version of Robbo in their early 20s that. Zm give us 7-8 seasons of top class service.

First of all, Alisson is replaced. It's Kelleher right now, the Georgian bloke next year.

VVD and Mo are priorities, and Mo is doing a masterclass in passive/aggressive social media while at the same time being a total professional on the field and still delivering. I'm not sure what is going to happen to those two, but VVD does need replacing sooner rather than later.

I've said my piece on Trent and players joining Real.

I actually think LB requires attention. Tsimikas is who he is, and Robbo is in a different stage of his career. We might need two of them.

 

[RossFC]

Gakpo, Gravenberch and Van Dijk called up for Netherlands.
Robertson and Doak called up for Scotland.
Koumas and Beck called up for Wales.
Rio Ngumoha called up for England U17s.

Szoboszlai called up for Hungary.
Mac Allister called up for Argentina.
Tsimikas called up for Greece.
Bradley called up for Northern Ireland.

 

[Zidane98]

French sources are linking us with a move for Tchoumanei.


Would be an ideal signing in January. Should be gettable at a FSG friendly price too.

 

[Zidane98]

First of all, Alisson is replaced. It's Kelleher right now, the Georgian bloke next year.

VVD and Mo are priorities, and Mo is doing a masterclass in passive/aggressive social media while at the same time being a total professional on the field and still delivering. I'm not sure what is going to happen to those two, but VVD does need replacing sooner rather than later.

I've said my piece on Trent and players joining Real.

I actually think LB requires attention. Tsimikas is who he is, and Robbo is in a different stage of his career. We might need two of them.

Absolutely, pretty clear they want to stay. I can't see the club authorising a pay rise for them as their best years are behind them. I feel a 2 year extension on their current terms with an option for a 3rd season is about where the club should be on their deals.

 

[Zidane98]