Rumour The Boy's Club

[BillyBrainless]

Good read apparently

 

[CoDkiller]

Unlike your post?

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[JMarra]

That's good.

 

[TwiggleyFanClub]

TLDR

 

[simba_]

shit thread

 

[Blue Pulse]

Don't read it if you want to have any respect for the AFL, absolute disgrace of an organisation and I'm only 2 chapters in.

 

[Catoggio76]

Warner used most of the stuff I researched in 2014/15. He bagged me at the time, now he's written a book on it.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Warner used most of the stuff I researched in 2014/15. He bagged me at the time, now he's written a book on it.

Do tell!

 

[Daniltchenko You Beauty]

Great read.

 

[markm106]

Good read. Doesn’t put the AFL in a good light. Basically every single action they do is to make themselves look better and keep the money rolling in. Seems plenty of things have been swept under the carpet over the years. Probably a lot that wasn’t even mentioned in the book.

 

[Cotchins Hair Piece]

Good read apparently

Not a bad read, thanks for the recommendation Mr Warner.

 

[Obeanie1]

Good read. Doesn’t put the AFL in a good light. Basically every single action they do is to make themselves look better and keep the money rolling in. Seems plenty of things have been swept under the carpet over the years. Probably a lot that wasn’t even mentioned in the book.

AFL House looking after their own personal self interest and bank balances ahead of integrity?

I am SHOCKKED to be reading this.

 

[The 747]

Warner used most of the stuff I researched in 2014/15. He bagged me at the time, now he's written a book on it.

Did he credit you?

 

[inanunda]

I interviewed him on my podcast Lace Out and he was a cracker to chat to. Went into a few of the less known events like the Talia brothers saga which has been pushed aside by bigger issues. Check it out: https://lace-out.captivate.fm/listen

 

[CheapCharlie]

I interviewed him on my podcast Lace Out and he was a cracker to chat to. Went into a few of the less known events like the Talia brothers saga which has been pushed aside by bigger issues. Check it out: https://lace-out.captivate.fm/listen

Jun 6, 2021 Podcast for those interested.

Excellent listening

 

[Aussie in exile]

Good read. Doesn’t put the AFL in a good light. Basically every single action they do is to make themselves look better and keep the money rolling in. Seems plenty of things have been swept under the carpet over the years. Probably a lot that wasn’t even mentioned in the book.

AFL House looking after their own personal self interest and bank balances ahead of integrity?

I am SHOCKKED to be reading this.

That has always the case and always will be.
They are up for grabs from the biggest bidder, no matter how morally corrupt that bidder is and any crimes they have committed.
Money first for the AFL.

 

[Geoff]

Kim Jong Nizzie appointed to a Cush number by “The Dill”. The Boys Club is alive and well.

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[matthew_s]

Kim Jong Nizzie appointed to a Cush number by “The Dill”. The Boys Club is alive and well.

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Advising clubs how to run themselves into the ground?

 

[Fruit]

Warner seems like a ****wit, after all he is a Richmond supporter, but this had some good yarns.

That story about the AFL guaranteeing that Sydney (the city) would have 22 games in 2005 was very interesting.

Ben Buckley is a very interesting man. bang average footballer but as per the publicly available LinkedIn, he was Nike marketing director in 1990 (when he was 23). North Melbourne won premierships in a good looking Nike and HP and Smoke Free jumper but that wasn't for a few years later.

How does a 23 year old man become head of the biggest emerging sports brand in the world?

Sunderland AFC, in the arse end of England, were the first club to have a Nike sponsorship in 1986: the factory was nearby.

How did this happen?

He was 27 when he started with Nike in Japan. Still young.

 

[Partridge]

Good read. Doesn’t put the AFL in a good light. Basically every single action they do is to make themselves look better and keep the money rolling in. Seems plenty of things have been swept under the carpet over the years. Probably a lot that wasn’t even mentioned in the book.

I'd guess we probably hear about 10% of things that really go on.

No surprise - it's an organisation run by glorified bogans with way too much money, a captive market that genuinely love the sport so much they'll put up the relentless destruction of its culture, and a media that are too lovestruck by being friends with current and ex-players that they'll toe the line instead of doing their job.

 

[Not a mere cat]

I'd guess we probably hear about 10% of things that really go on.

No surprise - it's an organisation run by glorified bogans with way too much money, a captive market that genuinely love the sport so much they'll put up the relentless destruction of its culture, and a media that are too lovestruck by being friends with current and ex-players that they'll toe the line instead of doing their job.

Beautifully summarised. They have a product with a huge customer base, guaranteed to make money. All just snouts in troughs - they don’t care about the game and treat their ‘customers’ with disdain.

 

[craffles]

Beautifully summarised. They have a product with a huge customer base, guaranteed to make money. All just snouts in troughs - they don’t care about the game and treat their ‘customers’ with disdain.

Yep. In what major global professional sporting code would the CEO of the association be on 4x more than the highest paid player. All of this whilst they still receive tax breaks and government funding for being a non profit. Time to have their non profit status revoked.

 

[conrad_437]

Yep. In what major global professional sporting code would the CEO of the association be on 4x more than the highest paid player. All of this whilst they still receive tax breaks and government funding for being a non profit. Time to have their non profit status revoked.

The bolded is pretty crazy. The American sports would lose their shit if that was the case. The best example you can find is Roger Goodell (NFL) making $63 million AUD, which is slightly less than the most well paid quarterbacks. Adam Silver (NBA) is on $10 million conversely, which is around one fifth of elite players.

I can't really see a rationale for AFL executives to be on this level of coin (in comparison with the players).

They're lucky the AFL fanbase is as dedicated as they are to the sport and aren't likely to look deeply into the operational affairs.

 

[craffles]

The bolded is pretty crazy. The American sports would lose their shit if that was the case. The best example you can find is Roger Goodell (NFL) making $63 million AUD, which is slightly less than the most well paid quarterbacks. Adam Silver (NBA) is on $10 million conversely, which is around one fifth of elite players.

I can't really see a rationale for AFL executives to be on this level of coin (in comparison with the players).

They're lucky the AFL fanbase is as dedicated as they are to the sport and aren't likely to look deeply into the operational affairs.

I think the average Aussie punter tends to laugh a bit at the men’s players when they mention they are underpaid or ask for money etc but the reality is compared to global sporting codes they are well under as a % of revenue. Lots of high paid execs at club and association level that should be paid less comparatively.

 

[conrad_437]

I think the average Aussie punter tends to laugh a bit at the men’s players when they mention they are underpaid or ask for money etc but the reality is compared to global sporting codes they are well under as a % of revenue. Lots of high paid execs at club and association level that should be paid less comparatively.

It probably doesn't help that the structure of the league is quite different to US sports, European soccer etc. As far as I'm aware, most of the leagues with the greatest gross revenue exercise a style of ownership structure. This allows for much greater investment for individual clubs, combined with the 'revenue sharing' systems to benefit both owners and players, while ensuring the competition can be more equitable for small market teams (this article stipulates that small market teams in the NBA are only required to achieve 70% revenue of the league's average to enjoy this benefit). Powerful unions especially in the NFL and NBA, where players receive 49% and 51% of revenue respectively, also ensure that players get a huge slice of the pie.

By no means am I claiming that we should have an ownership system in the AFL (to be honest, I think that would be an awful idea and the target market is way to small to justify it - huge inequalities between the big and small teams would be exposed). But there is something to be learnt abroad with the way some of the biggest leagues value it's greatest stars, who are more valuable to the game than practically any other investment. There is no way a league commissioner, CEO or any executive should be paid 4x that of the highest paid players.