Opinion The 'Carlton related stuff that doesn't need it's own thread' thread

[boltsbabyblues]

Hmmm...

I think your notion that we were happy to accept losing is incorrect, just as the notion that we are somehow still content to accept loss is. There is a marked difference between realising the reality of what such a hard rebuild will accomplish as far as your immediate short term prospects are (you aren't winning many without your key players being between the ages of 22-26, as the last few weeks have ably demonstrated) and being happy or accepting loss. Do you truly think that Bolton in his first season, when he motivated the shit out of Gibbs, Kreuzer, Murphy, Wright, Thomas and Simpson and arguably got them to the best footy of their career (outside of Murph's 2011; that shit was out of this world) that Bolton wasn't trying to win games of footy? Last year and this year, he's arguably held firm to structures and to gameplans when he's known that they have not been working; he's holding tightly to Plan A, despite its failure.

I don't think the answer to the question that implies - why is he doing this??? - is that he lacks the ability to rotate the squad and to change the levers to get the side working. I think that's too simple a solution, as it flies completely contrary to evidence we've been provided from him in the first two seasons, when he was capable both of getting the game on our terms and getting us to play cohesively by twisting things; sending Lamb back/forward, Murphy to the wing/outside the stoppage, playing SPS in the guts when it's wet, giving Charlie the licence to roam when he's on, etc. He was able to get our clearance setup working when Cripps and Ed were absent for the final 6 weeks of 2016 (not at the same level, but producing similar clearance, tackle and contested ball numbers).

Outside of that, I agree essentially with what you're saying. You cannot be satisfied winning once; you must need to win, over and over again. You must detest and despise the notion of losing, to the point where it's aberrant for you to even contemplate it, that when/if it starts you actively react viscerally to prevent it. If that's old Carlton, then I don't disagree with you that it would be good to have it back, but old Carlton means more than that to most people.

agreed. I just think people are quick to want to disassociate themselves with "old carlton" 16 flags never forget!!!!!!!!

 

[BeijingBlue]

Murphy is no general, lacks presence.

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Presence of a pussy cat.

 

[thylacine60]

I'm not murphy's biggest fan but just wondering how much high level contact sport you've played, sport?

 

[Aphrodite]

Presence of a pussy cat.

Poor form

 

[Jabba73]

Presence of a pussy cat.

 

[mediumsizered]

agreed. I just think people are quick to want to disassociate themselves with "old carlton" 16 flags never forget!!!!!!!!

"Old Carlton" won 16 flags in a competition based on a totally different dynamic to that which exists now. Unfortunately "Old Carlton" failed to accept that the competition had moved on from that dynamic & tried to rally against this. As a result the rest of the competition moved beyond us while "Old Carlton" was still yearning for the 'good old days'.

 

[mediumsizered]

Jon & Vangelis taking me on a journey.

 

[mediumsizered]

Somehow I'll find my way home.

 

[thylacine60]

msr - you never go full numbers.....

 

[agro]

First win in nine months and thr club tweets out “free postage” for all on line purchases from the Carlton Shop.

We’ve forgotten how to win and we’ve forgotten how to reward the patient fans.

Cmon club - first win in 9 months has gotta be worth 20% discount at leSt.

 

[agro]

First win in nine months and thr club tweets out “free postage” for all on line purchases from the Carlton Shop.

We’ve forgotten how to win and we’ve forgotten how to reward the patient fans.

Cmon club - first win in 9 months has gotta be worth 20% discount at leSt.

Geelong win (like they do every other week) and they offer their members 30% discount off online purchases from their Shop.

Cmon Carlton get with the program.

 

[Bobmonkey]

 

[Jabba73]

First win in nine months and thr club tweets out “free postage” for all on line purchases from the Carlton Shop.

We’ve forgotten how to win and we’ve forgotten how to reward the patient fans.

Cmon club - first win in 9 months has gotta be worth 20% discount at leSt.

Geelong win (like they do every other week) and they offer their members 30% discount off online purchases from their Shop.

Cmon Carlton get with the program.

You seem to be on the same page as yourself.

 

[agro]

You seem to be on the same page as yourself.

Don’t worry about potting me - worry about the club being on the same page as it’s members, and offering its members at least what us being offered by leading clubs, or perhaps exceeding them.

 

[Jabba73]

Don’t worry about potting me - worry about the club being on the same page as it’s members, and offering its members at least what us being offered by leading clubs, or perhaps exceeding them.

Check my history, had plenty to say about our merchandise and offers to members.

 

[agro]

Check my history, had plenty to say about our merchandise and offers to members.

So not sure why your potting me for highlighting our pathetic offer to members compared to Geelong.

We offer “free postage” after 12 months without a win - Geelong offer 30% discount after every win - they win on average better than every other week - so far more generous to their members.

 

[Jabba73]

So not sure why your potting me for highlighting our pathetic offer to members compared to Geelong.

We offer “free postage” after 12 months without a win - Geelong offer 30% discount after every win - they win on average better than every other week - so far more generous to their members.

All good, not having a go about your post, just having a laugh at you quoting yourself. Totally agree we could do so much better with merchandise and have made some suggestions for improvement over the years.

Quoting yourself is the second sign of BF madness. The first sign is joining up ...

 

[mediumsizered]

Geelong win (like they do every other week) and they offer their members 30% discount off online purchases from their Shop.

Cmon Carlton get with the program.

Our stuff is far more valuable than the pretend Navy Blue & White stuff from the Cattery. Who wants to wear stuff with a little pussycat on it?

 

[mediumsizered]

Judd's "smarmy look" is better than any look from Caro.

 

[Aphrodite]

Our stuff is far more valuable than the pretend Navy Blue & White stuff from the Cattery. Who wants to wear stuff with a little handbag on it?

 

[ferrisb]

Just got back from the chemist, where the pharmacist was wearing a yarmulke (jewish head covering) embroidered in the CFC logo.

I asked him about it and we started chatting. Great game on the weekend, what a finish, how good is Cripps, how exiting was Harry and SPS. Won't it be nice that the media will focus on North for a couple of weeks. Etc etc

As I left I yelled out 'GO BLUES!', to which he replied 'See you in September'. Walking out the door, I yelled back 'Just calling my travel agent to cancel my September holiday'.

A bit random, but just thought I'd share what I thought was a funny experience. Carlton support is alive and well out there in the community...

 

[ferrisb]

Also, I just discovered the short-lived Daisy thread, including these gems.




I know I'm supposed to say 'Ah! Wedding singer!'....but all I can think of is one of the cops in the background yelling 'Our fugitive is on the loose. Check every gas station, warehouse, inn house, outhouse, dog house, hen house within 15 miles!'

Also Jabba73... Stitches... I see what you did there..... You are sew funny...

 

[thylacine60]

not the end of the world I spose but if your name isn't patrick cripps or sam walsh it might be a little deflating to know you won't be winning a b & f anytime soon - attack me in a pincer movement........

 

[thylacine60]

Also, I just discovered the short-lived Daisy thread, including these gems.

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I know I'm supposed to say 'Ah! Wedding singer!'....but all I can think of is one of the cops in the background yelling 'Our fugitive is on the loose. Check every gas station, warehouse, inn house, outhouse, dog house, hen house within 15 miles!'

Also Jabba73... Stitches... I see what you did there..... You are sew funny...

the daisy rabbit thread will live forever in the hearts and minds of those who were there - and in the children's text books of the future............

 

[Faz 2000]

Just got back from the chemist, where the pharmacist was wearing a yarmulke (jewish head covering) embroidered in the CFC logo.

I asked him about it and we started chatting. Great game on the weekend, what a finish, how good is Cripps, how exiting was Harry and SPS. Won't it be nice that the media will focus on North for a couple of weeks. Etc etc

As I left I yelled out 'GO BLUES!', to which he replied 'See you in September'. Walking out the door, I yelled back 'Just calling my travel agent to cancel my September holiday'.

A bit random, but just thought I'd share what I thought was a funny experience. Carlton support is alive and well out there in the community...

But seriously, don’t forget to get your prescription renewed in September. Medication only works if you take it.