Current Trial The Delphi Teen Murders - Video of killer found in Libby's phone * TRIAL

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Andrea Burkhart is just a shill for the defense. Besides backing the 'Odinist's did it' without a shred of evidence, she claimed there wasn't enough blood where the girls bodies were found to have been killed there, despite several large pools (probably a couple of litres in each). She claims the earth isn't porous LOL. She was formerly a defense attorney so not really surprising she is trying to influence her followers of the defense stance that the girls were driven off somewhere by those Odinists and then their bodies brought back at 4am (when the area was teaming with searchers). This stance is just so ridiculous you could almost believe his attorneys are making a play for an appeal for ineffective council. Andrea is adamant Bryan Kohberger is innocent if that gives you an idea. Tom Webster and Lauren Mathias are also in court each day and take copious notes. Both just read their notes from the trial each day with little opinion.

Anyway, there is no doubt RA is guilty. The slam dunk was last night when his prison psychologist testified regarding the many confessions he made to her. One was 'I followed the girls when they crossed the bridge and ordered them down the hill because I intended to rape them, but was interrupted when a white van drove by. I panicked and forced them across the creek where I slashed their throats, making sure they were dead so they didn't suffer. Then I went on with my life" (paraphrased)

The above was exactly the premise of the prosecution - he intended to rape the girls but was interrupted which forced him to take the girls across the creek. After the psychologist, they put the guy with the white van on the stand to confirm the timeline of him returning from work on his (parents) driveway which went under the bridge. The data from Libby's iPhone showing movement, elevation changes, no movement etc. was completely in line with the prosecution theory and RA's own account.

RA's confessions had information only the killer would know. Besides the white van, he claimed to have used a box cutter to slash the girl's throats. The Medical Examiner hadn't indicated a box cutter was used in his report, but on the stand said he later reflected a box cutter could account for the serrations in the girls wounds.

His 'psychosis' while in prison was turned on and off when convenient. He steeled himself with a deep breathe when he would eat his excrement and after doing something to his genitals with a spork, told the guard he wouldn't be doing that again! He even claimed 'what do I have to do to make you believe I'm insane!' - Probably do a little research into psychosis rather than copy what you've seen in the movies.

Overnight the court will hear his recorded confessions he made to his wife and mother. We might also get a look at his search history which of course the defense are trying to exclude.

Thank goodness the jury is sequestered and only has the evidence in court to make their decision. I've only seen utter garbage and lies on twitter and from a number of creators.
 
Andrea Burkhart is just a shill for the defense. Besides backing the 'Odinist's did it' without a shred of evidence, she claimed there wasn't enough blood where the girls bodies were found to have been killed there, despite several large pools (probably a couple of litres in each). She claims the earth isn't porous LOL. She was formerly a defense attorney so not really surprising she is trying to influence her followers of the defense stance that the girls were driven off somewhere by those Odinists and then their bodies brought back at 4am (when the area was teaming with searchers). This stance is just so ridiculous you could almost believe his attorneys are making a play for an appeal for ineffective council. Andrea is adamant Bryan Kohberger is innocent if that gives you an idea. Tom Webster and Lauren Mathias are also in court each day and take copious notes. Both just read their notes from the trial each day with little opinion.

Anyway, there is no doubt RA is guilty. The slam dunk was last night when his prison psychologist testified regarding the many confessions he made to her. One was 'I followed the girls when they crossed the bridge and ordered them down the hill because I intended to rape them, but was interrupted when a white van drove by. I panicked and forced them across the creek where I slashed their throats, making sure they were dead so they didn't suffer. Then I went on with my life" (paraphrased)

The above was exactly the premise of the prosecution - he intended to rape the girls but was interrupted which forced him to take the girls across the creek. After the psychologist, they put the guy with the white van on the stand to confirm the timeline of him returning from work on his (parents) driveway which went under the bridge. The data from Libby's iPhone showing movement, elevation changes, no movement etc. was completely in line with the prosecution theory and RA's own account.

RA's confessions had information only the killer would know. Besides the white van, he claimed to have used a box cutter to slash the girl's throats. The Medical Examiner hadn't indicated a box cutter was used in his report, but on the stand said he later reflected a box cutter could account for the serrations in the girls wounds.

His 'psychosis' while in prison was turned on and off when convenient. He steeled himself with a deep breathe when he would eat his excrement and after doing something to his genitals with a spork, told the guard he wouldn't be doing that again! He even claimed 'what do I have to do to make you believe I'm insane!' - Probably do a little research into psychosis rather than copy what you've seen in the movies.

Overnight the court will hear his recorded confessions he made to his wife and mother. We might also get a look at his search history which of course the defense are trying to exclude.

Thank goodness the jury is sequestered and only has the evidence in court to make their decision. I've only seen utter garbage and lies on twitter and from a number of creators.

Andrea isn't adamant of anything - she just doesn't see there's enough evidence for beyond reasonable doubt. In this case and Kohberger.

I haven't heard her say she backs the Odinist theory - she has said however that the state can push their theory and the defense should be able to do the same.

She is still a practicing defense attorney but mainly at appelate level.

The prison psych's testimony was a hot mess. She was following the case early on and participated in chat rooms about it. She has since been fired.

She was not credible.
 

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re motive - i think saying it’s not sexually related is too simplistic given both girls were undressed ie naked at some point - with one body being redressed but one left naked.


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Damn this site, I hadn't even heard of the Delphi case until stumbling on this thread a week or so ago. Thankfully it's a nice clean case and it's been really easy to follow with no detours or maddening number of creeps on the scene. It's like someone watched Twin Peaks and thought 'we've got to one up this'.

So many apparent disastrous errors by the investigation, so many things that click for RA but just enough things to make it seem confusing. If you had a gun and a boxknife and had to kill two kids why would you use the boxknife? (other than no noise - but it really seems like getting them both quickly would be highly problematic) Why did he eject a bullet??? All these things seem to point at RA at the moment but the confessions only come after the guy has been locked up in solitary confinement for a year at which point most people would be pretty loopy and pliable.

That photo of Brad Holder in the flat cap is pretty crazy, the creasing of the cap matches Bridge Guy perfectly. I haven't had a chance to watch/listen to the video posted recently that supposedly shows how much he sounds like Bridge Guy as well... It leaves me wondering if he's related to Noddy Holder. That weird confusing original two POI sketches matches Brad and Logan so accurately as well. Thanks for dropping me down the rabbit hole BigFooty - I'm still falling and don't expect to be landing any time soon!
 
quoted from abcnews America website article today:
"Cecil testified that Libby's phone gradually powered down throughout the night, died at 10:32 p.m. and then woke with a spike at 4:33 a.m. Cecil said that is when her phone received 15 to 20 text messages all at once. One of the messages, sent nearly 12 hours earlier from Libby's grandmother, said, "You need to call me now!!!""

how does a phone die and then revive itself?

The only good thing about this case is that the jurors can ask questions (and considering they asked if police had searched Delphi and surrounds as to who owns the mystery parked car in question and were told 'no', it's a damn good idea - I know I wish I could have asked questions at the jury sitting I attended).

seems like the ejected bullet (still don't get why anyone would eject a bullet) [although I guess it happens to all of us sometimes if we're tired or drunk] is pretty poor physical evidence and doesn't register the same kind of high quality evidence that a fired bullet can.

also the 'only the killer could have known' evidence about the van sighting is iffy unless I see a verbatim copy of his statement to that psychologist:

"Psychologist Monica Wala testified that, in one of Allen's confessions to her, Allen told her he saw the girls on the trail and followed them to the bridge.

Allen said he ordered the girls "down the hill" and intended to rape them, but then he saw something -- either a person or a van -- and was startled, Wala said. "

'saw something - either a person or a van' is very very open. If I saw a van or a person I could tell you which. They look really different.
 
"seems like the ejected bullet (still don't get why anyone would eject a bullet) [although I guess it happens to all of us sometimes if we're tired or drunk] is pretty poor physical evidence and doesn't register the same kind of high quality evidence that a fired bullet can."


If whoever c.ocks the gun in a show of it being loaded and ready to fire they may eject a bullet that is already in the chamber in the process without realizing.
I agree that it is flimsy evidence seen and many guns could be matched to that bullet in that way. also that it showed up after the fact and was never photographed in situ throws doubt on it.
 
also Weber's original claim that he might have gone out servicing ATMs before going home on the day - considering all the location details they've secured from the girls' mobile phone(s) can't they secure that kind of data from Weber's? Or was it easier to secure that data from the girls' phone(s) [they only ever seem to mention Libby's phone, did Abby not have one?] because they did it very soon after the date the phone was discovered?

They really screwed the pooch with the continual solitary confinement of this guy.
 

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