Roast The $$Dump$$ Thread

[Westcoast88]

Not what I said.

Read it again.

It was what you said.

 

[Westcoast88]

So because we released a public statement that included a section saying we were disappointed that Rioli has chosen to leave that now means that forever and a day from now on we can no longer have honest conversations with other players on our list where we tell them that they are not in our best 22 nor our future plans and there is unlikely to be any contract extensions for them and leave it with them if they want to think about their options? Are we obligated to lie to our players from now on if they are contracted but no longer in our best 22 lest we be labelled hypocrites for saying we are disappointed when Rioli left?

And the Rioli and Gaff situations are hardly comparable. Rioli let the club down every badly, we paid all his legal bills through all his troubles, he would likely have gotten a ban that would have ended his career totally had it not been for the club saving him by throwing all it's political capital into lobbying for a lighter sentence and giving him QC representation. He occupied a spot on our list and continued to get paid through the whole saga also. So the Rioli saga is hardly a garden variety situation of a player leaving a club. The club is entitled to point out what an immature ingrate he is.

Don't worry mate Miguel is known to twist peoples words I called him out before. He had no comeback had to change the subject.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Don't worry mate Miguel is known to twist peoples words I called him out before. He had no comeback had to change the subject.

I don’t even know who you are.

 

[Westcoast88]

So because we released a public statement that included a section saying we were disappointed that Rioli has chosen to leave that now means that forever and a day from now on we can no longer have honest conversations with other players on our list where we tell them that they are not in our best 22 nor our future plans and there is unlikely to be any contract extensions for them and leave it with them if they want to think about their options? Are we obligated to lie to our players from now on if they are contracted but no longer in our best 22 lest we be labelled hypocrites for saying we are disappointed when Rioli left?

And the Rioli and Gaff situations are hardly comparable. Rioli let the club down every badly, we paid all his legal bills through all his troubles, he would likely have gotten a ban that would have ended his career totally had it not been for the club saving him by throwing all it's political capital into lobbying for a lighter sentence and giving him QC representation. He occupied a spot on our list and continued to get paid through the whole saga also. So the Rioli saga is hardly a garden variety situation of a player leaving a club. The club is entitled to point out what an immature ingrate he is.

Very well said.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

No, it will not necessarily be inappropriate to tell another veteran player to assess their options.

So because we released a public statement that included a section saying we were disappointed that Rioli has chosen to leave that now means that forever and a day from now on we can no longer have honest conversations with other players on our list where we tell them that they are not in our best 22 nor our future plans and there is unlikely to be any contract extensions for them and leave it with them if they want to think about their options?

Couldn’t have made it clearer. I thought.

“It won’t necessarily be inappropriate to tell a veteran player to assess their options.”
“So you’re saying we can never tell a veteran player to assess their options???”

**** me dead.

 

[eaglespremiers]

I don’t even know who you are.

Thanks Thanos.

 

[Westcoast88]

I don’t even know who you are.

You sure responded quick for someone who doesn't know me. Finger on the refresh button aY. If you like Rioli so much why don't you follow him to Port Adelaide, Rioli is self entitled ungrateful snot.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

Not what I said.

Read it again.

You said it would be "inappropriate" to have a conversation with Gaff regarding his future at the club "given our Rioli statement". So our disappointment in Rioli's ungratefulness now precludes us having a conversation with Gaff about his future.

And Gaff didn't show any loyalty. He held out forever and eventually got a 6 year deal on $800 plus a year. That is at the very, very tippy tops of what he was possibly worth even at the time he signed it. Only one club would have possibly have paid him any more and that was North. And thats because they are perennial spooners and nobody wants to go there. And if they offered him anymore than what we have ended up paying him it wouldn't have been much more. If you bend a club over to the point where the deal you get is something that 16 of the other 17 clubs would not touch with a barge pole and maybe one other club would match or slightly better you can't claim to have shown extraordinary loyalty to the club.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

You sure responded quick for someone who doesn't know me. Finger on the refresh button aY. If you like Rioli so much why don't you follow him to Port Adelaide, Rioli is self entitled ungrateful snot.

Do you know how notifications work?

 

[Westcoast88]

I would be surprised if this monster offer to Jackson, paying him way over the odds of what his current formline and achievements in the game warrant, hasn't caused a lot of aggro and discontent within the playing group at Freo.

Agree Jackson way overated. Eagles rebuild will go from 5 years to 7 years if we get him I reckon. Tim Kelly trade set rebuild back 2 years giving away 2 first rounders and a 27 and 37. Gamble didn't pay off can't afford another one

 

[Westcoast88]

Depends on the circumstances.

“Would you be interested in exploring your options to go back to Victoria again?” might be alright.

“Would you be interested in exploring your options because we’re looking at swapping you for a Gold Coast player” wouldn’t be.

Semantic rubbish.

 

[Westcoast88]

You said it would be "inappropriate" to have a conversation with Gaff regarding his future at the club "given our Rioli statement". So our disappointment in Rioli's ungratefulness now precludes us having a conversation with Gaff about his future.

And Gaff didn't show any loyalty. He held out forever and eventually got a 6 year deal on $800 plus a year. That is at the very, very tippy tops of what he was possibly worth even at the time he signed it. Only one club would have possibly have paid him any more and that was North. And thats because they are perennial spooners and nobody wants to go there. And if they offered him anymore than what we have ended up paying him it wouldn't have been much more. If you bend a club over to the point where the deal you get is something that 16 of the other 17 clubs would not touch with a barge pole and maybe one other club would match or slightly better you can't claim to have shown extraordinary loyalty to the club.

Well said. I think he wants us to keep all our old players as long as possible and never get rid of them. Don't trade gaff lol. Not appropriate lol. Lol lol lol.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

No, it will not necessarily be inappropriate to tell another veteran player to assess their options.

Well said. I think he wants us to keep all our old players as long as possible and never get rid of them.

Dealing with a real rocket surgeon here.

 

[Westcoast88]

Dealing with a real rocket surgeon here.

Your the one who said keep gaff who won't be around for next flag. Doesn't sound very bright. You then defend Rioli, you sure your not a Freo supporter. The other bloke is making you look silly you should really focus on him, he just caught you out on some bs lol. Gaff leaving inappropriate lol Gaff is 30. He won't be playing at 36.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

You then defend Rioli, you sure your not a Freo supporter.

Where’d I do that?

 

[Fyfster]

Dealing with a real rocket surgeon here.

What is a rocket surgeon ?

 

[Bender_]

What is a rocket surgeon ?

Similar to Brain Science.

 

[Bender_]

So, I'm just guessing that Westcoast88 is DeplorableTrumpster's sock puppet?

 

[The wily weagle]

Dealing with a real rocket surgeon here.

Rocket surgeon?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Can someone breakdown for me what were arguing about here?

With well spaced paragraphs. Not slabs and slabs of words.

From my perspective:

Someone suggested trading Gaff to Gold Coast for Sharp.

I asked why Gaff would be interested in being traded to Gold Coast.

That’s devolved into a debate about whether we should be asking or telling contracted players to look elsewhere, and the circumstances when that might be acceptable.

 

[amazingjoshy]

 

[Doashuey]

Can someone breakdown for me what were arguing about here?

With well spaced paragraphs. Not slabs and slabs of words.

Someone said something about 15 pages ago that Sanchez didn't agree with.

Details not important as straw men are scattered throughout.

Conclusion... If you scan the post and see Gaff mentioned, scroll on.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Hear me out.

What if we traded Gaff for Meredith's junk for Kelly's crap for Phyllis's garbage for Oscar's trash for Stanley's crap for Ryan's junk for Creed's garbage for a very cute squid that Erin happened to have.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Nothing like the inability of people to throw in a somewhat relevant meme and move on to the next ridiculous argument because they might lose internet brownie points I guess

 

[pantskyle]

Can someone breakdown for me what were arguing about here?

With well spaced paragraphs. Not slabs and slabs of words.

Gunston

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