Are there even many VL Commodores on the road these days? I always wanted a turbo, did actually look at buying one mid 00s but struggled to find one that was a manual.
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The End of Holden
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Bloke around the corner from me had his VL Turbo stolen and torched.
Interior and ergonomics in the VL was pretty shocking, worst thing about the car. Handling may have been a tad suspect as well? Great Japanese engine though..
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Broken Hill....No surprises there.
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Hatchbacks for the girls and American pickups for the people with tiny dicks
What about the SUVs.
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They're for the older girls who are past it
And blokes that are whipped.
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Sounds like a lot of mix-and-match cars. When Daimler-Chrysler was a thing in the mid 2000s you could get an awful WK Jeep Grand Cherokee body with a Mercedes turbo diesel V6 in it. If you got the updated WK2 version which went into production after the companies split you got the re-engineered platform shared by Mercedes and Jeep plus a Mercedes transmission, but no more Mercedes motor. The Italian diesel is well regarded, no idea about any of the big Chrysler petrol V8s. In the years following the split Chrysler had to make/source their own gear instead of using Merc stuff.
Can 100% understand why they are simultaneously a highly awarded car and people hate them. If I was looking at a car I'd be pretty interested to know it how much Mercedes vs how much 'murica was in it!
I will probably get shot down for this but I always liked the VR/VS Statesman as a car. Talked one of my flatemates into buying one early 00s, was great for carting everyone living in the place around.
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The rage around Godzilla was the silly rules where maybe they shouldn't have won when the race was called
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Actually was kids from wilcannia that came to town to do it, that must be surprising for you as minority groups can do no wrong.
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Twas always the Braybrook boys back in my day as a lad in Sunshine.
Minorities suffer from the same foibles as all human beings do.....Prone to error.
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The fall from grace of Holden and Australian car manufacturing was pretty swift.
As late as 2005, I distinctly remember buying a 'New Car Buyer' magazine proudly writing that the Commodore and Falcon continue to be the best-sellers. That must have been one of the last times an Australian-made car was a best-seller in Australia.
Holden was at the height of its powers. Mitsubishi and Holden were both right here in Adelaide, plus Toyota and Ford in Victoria. Driving along on a typical Saturday arvo in Adelaide and the cars coming past were Commodore, Commodore, Corolla, Mazda 3, Commodore, Golf, Commodore, etc. They were everywhere. Almost every taxi was a Commodore.
In 2008, Mitsubishi closes down. By 2013, Holden becomes the last manufacturer to announce they are pulling out. By the time Holden shuts down in 2017, Commodores have been left behind by the market as well, replaced by SUVs.
As late as 2005, I distinctly remember buying a 'New Car Buyer' magazine proudly writing that the Commodore and Falcon continue to be the best-sellers. That must have been one of the last times an Australian-made car was a best-seller in Australia.
Holden was at the height of its powers. Mitsubishi and Holden were both right here in Adelaide, plus Toyota and Ford in Victoria. Driving along on a typical Saturday arvo in Adelaide and the cars coming past were Commodore, Commodore, Corolla, Mazda 3, Commodore, Golf, Commodore, etc. They were everywhere. Almost every taxi was a Commodore.
In 2008, Mitsubishi closes down. By 2013, Holden becomes the last manufacturer to announce they are pulling out. By the time Holden shuts down in 2017, Commodores have been left behind by the market as well, replaced by SUVs.
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These are the type of vehicles they really should have pushed to make. Something to compete with the BMW/Merc/Audi space and what would now be the Mustangs.
No argument there, the Coupe 60 was a work of art. They had some killer prototypes in the 70s too.
Don't blame Holden for that, blame GM.
Still I reckon a large section of the local market would have turned their nose at it, tall poppy is a real thing and there's no way a local product could be as good as a prestigious European or American brand...
Or they could have kept the Monaro going anther series.
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I remember Ford beating Holden to the punch with the soccer mum 4WD in the Territory and it being all the rage for a few years, what happened there? Obviously it wasn't enough to keep them going?
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Money from Detroit dried up and the Territory started facing stiffer competition
The VF Concept Coupe was a great looking car.
Far cleaner and more "Euro" than the somewhat clunky looking Camaro.
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Pitty there's not someone willing to be a bespoke manufacturer here and build a unique sports/luxury car.
The amount of people buying Ford Ranger Raptors, Mustangs and all that type of thing has me thinking there's still that culture of brash and cashed up here that would pay.
We have a Territory, the final model. A great car. Got it brand new for a tick over 40k. Drives like a sedan, quite punchy for a diesel.
By far the roomiest interior of any SUV under 60k
With the rear seats down we were able to fit a 2m bookcase.
A shame Ford could not continue making them out of Thailand.
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