bergman is a shocking kick,cant play midfield, why not utilise his biggest strength in his intercept marking and leave him back
Opinion The Evolution of Your Best 23 for 2025
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Marshall will absolutely be starting best 22 in the forward line. Wether we all agree of that’s the best option I am not sure, but there is no way he is playing reserves if healthy.
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I've been thinking about this and I think we have to start with Lord in that position, and give him 6-7 games to find his feet. If that doesn't work I think Visentini is genuinely the next best option. I've written Marshall, Finlayson and Esava off as genuine options if we want to go deep into finals. That would mean if Lord and Vis don't pan out we rework the forward line with smalls and go back to Winessecond ruck is important for twenty minutes a games we can't carry somebody like Esava through a finals series again for twenty minutes of game time
Lord is not a Ruck in any way shape or form.
Dante has to start taking marks. Hopefully this pre-season is the pre-season that launches him into our best 18. Dante is technically the best set shot on goal we have.
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Yeah the Esava love in was a really weird one. I don’t mind the guy, I’m not in love with him as first 22 but at his age how much more upside is there. He was a late second, third round at best.
He’s a good cultural diveristy for though, which I’m sure our club loves the image of
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Before injury most supporters here were loving Soldo. I don’t think is Flemington s8 infront of him.
With good early signs on Moraes and some predicting that Berry, Moraes and even Whitlock may have instant impact in 2025, my best 23 is put forward on the (not completely unrealistic) basis that we nailed the 2024 National Draft:
F Whitlock Georgiades Rioli
HF Berry Lukosius Richards
C Sinn Wines Moraes
HB Jones Aliir Bergman
B Farrell Zerk-Thatcher Burgoyne
1R Sweet Horne-Francis Butters
INT Rozee Drew Powell-Pepper Ratugolea
Sub Burton
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F Finlayson Lord Barrett
HF Charleson Marshall Anastasopolous
C Lorenz Mead Boak (C)
HB Williams Walsh Evans
B Atkins Moss Byrne-Jones
1R Soldo McEntee Jackson
INT Visentini Cochrane R.Burgoyne Francou Watkins McLennan K.Marshall Moore (VC)
F Whitlock Georgiades Rioli
HF Berry Lukosius Richards
C Sinn Wines Moraes
HB Jones Aliir Bergman
B Farrell Zerk-Thatcher Burgoyne
1R Sweet Horne-Francis Butters
INT Rozee Drew Powell-Pepper Ratugolea
Sub Burton
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F Finlayson Lord Barrett
HF Charleson Marshall Anastasopolous
C Lorenz Mead Boak (C)
HB Williams Walsh Evans
B Atkins Moss Byrne-Jones
1R Soldo McEntee Jackson
INT Visentini Cochrane R.Burgoyne Francou Watkins McLennan K.Marshall Moore (VC)
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Look I agree I just think Lord might be currently our best player for that role next year. He doesn't have to be a great ruck and he doesn't have to be a great forward he just has to be okay at both. We played Dixon and Esava in that position last year and both were different levels of horrendous.
All he has to do is compete in the air not get out marked, and not allow the other teams secondary ruck to beat him more than 50% of the time. Literally the Dixon role, hopefully we don't kick it on his head 40 times a game and try and limit it to a more respectable 15 times.
What we should be attempting to do with our forward line, is the Collingwood model of bringing the smalls up a half kick from the contest with Georgie left up forward to exploit the space and lead into. Play Lord a full kick away from the contest but try and bypass him as much as possible with run and carry and short kicks, only use him when you can't find easy access out of the contest. A good year for that role should be 30 goals while Mitch should be kicking around 60. Use Luko as a deep laying wing man CHF on the other side of the ground, from the contest to stretch the ground and defense. When we need to initiate the switch we should be able to do so with devastating speed and penetration.
Berry will play every game imo
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Berry vs Moraes is the interest preseason.
We won't start 2 first gamers round one.
Got a good feeling about Moraes.
Berry is the one impressing the coaching staff the most according to the Cornes family grapevine, enough so they've pencilled him in as a starter already.
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On what basis is Bergman a ‘shocking kick? Or cant play Midfield??
The kids a great kick and has all the traits needed to play through the middle if needed. That said, with Houston gone we need him at half back.
I fully expect Bergman’s role will increase next year and equally expect that he’ll be up to the task.
Last time we traded out star players, we debuted 3 first gamers in R1 at the MCG! History could repeat.
champion data had him as a top 10 worst kick. And he doesnt pass my eye test when it comes to kicking either.
I dont think he has what it takes to play as a midfielder, happy to be proven wrong though.
I think if Bergman does play midfield, he should play inside, not on the wing. His strength at the contest is elite. Always keeps his feet. I'd give it a go pre-season. He's an asset and point of difference down back though so he'd have to have a big impact for it to be worth it. Maybe he could rotate with rozee in there
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I think the issue with Bergman is his decision making at times is questionable which makes his kicks seem worst than what it is.
A little bit left field but can Finlayson become a mid?
A little bit left field but can Finlayson become a mid?
2024 was his first year in a completely new playing environment and I’m prepared to give him season 2025 to show us that he has the necessary skills to become a competent forward with the occasional run on the ball.
The guy is a beast!
That's a borderline instant sacking back when we were Port Adelaide.
...if healthy.
I heard he's looking good on the track but one decent knock and he's back on protocols.
A coople of big knocks and he's never playing footy ever again.
For mine, he's going to be a tough watch this year.
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You can give a man all the information in the world it doesn't mean he's going to learn anything from it. Esava had Chris Scott as a coach for 6 years and played last year like it was his first time touching a Sherrin. He's a great athlete but has negative footy IQ, we've bought a lemon and now we're stuck with him. Hopefully we only have to play him in defense a few games a year as depth from here on our.
F: Berry - Georgiades - Rioli
HF: Marshall - Lukosius - Rozee (C)
C: Burgoyne - Wines - Moraes
HB: Evans - Aliir - Farrell
B: Bergman - Zerk-Thatcher - Jones
R: Sweet - Home - Alabama
INT: Drew - Byrne-Jones - Sinn - Richards
SUB: Boak
HF: Marshall - Lukosius - Rozee (C)
C: Burgoyne - Wines - Moraes
HB: Evans - Aliir - Farrell
B: Bergman - Zerk-Thatcher - Jones
R: Sweet - Home - Alabama
INT: Drew - Byrne-Jones - Sinn - Richards
SUB: Boak
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Port Adelaide POWER - Trial Game 1 vs Crows
F: Soldo - Georgiades - Rioli
HF: Byrne-Jones - Lukosius - Powell-Pepper
C: J.Burgoyne - Wines - Boak
HB: Evans - Aliir - Farrell
B: Bergman - Zerk-Thatcher - Jones
R: Sweet - Horne-Francis - Butters
INT: Rozee (C) - Drew - Atkins - Richards
EMERG: Sinn (SUB) - Ratugolea - Finlayson - Burton
Port Adelaide MAGPIES - Round 1 vs Glenelg
F: Lord - T.Marshall - Berry
HF: McEntee - Finlayson - Anastasopoulos
C: Lorenz - Moore (C) - Moraes
HB: Sinn - Walsh - Burton
B: Moss - Ratugolea - D.Williams
R: Visentini - Mead - Jackson
INT: Whitlock - Charleson - Barrett - Cochrane
EMERG: McLennan - R.Burgoyne
OTHER: Francou - K.Marshall - Harris
Unavailable:
AFL: NONE
SANFL: (Unsigned: Chamberlain - H.Williams - Weidemann - O'Reilly - Turner - Calvett - Carter - Launer - Pascoe - H.Ferrari - Roberts - Cheesman - O'Brien - Baldwin - Aldridge - Stevens - Brazel - Byrne - W.Ferrari - Cockatoo-Collins - Cooper - Gilchrist)
F: Soldo - Georgiades - Rioli
HF: Byrne-Jones - Lukosius - Powell-Pepper
C: J.Burgoyne - Wines - Boak
HB: Evans - Aliir - Farrell
B: Bergman - Zerk-Thatcher - Jones
R: Sweet - Horne-Francis - Butters
INT: Rozee (C) - Drew - Atkins - Richards
EMERG: Sinn (SUB) - Ratugolea - Finlayson - Burton
Port Adelaide MAGPIES - Round 1 vs Glenelg
F: Lord - T.Marshall - Berry
HF: McEntee - Finlayson - Anastasopoulos
C: Lorenz - Moore (C) - Moraes
HB: Sinn - Walsh - Burton
B: Moss - Ratugolea - D.Williams
R: Visentini - Mead - Jackson
INT: Whitlock - Charleson - Barrett - Cochrane
EMERG: McLennan - R.Burgoyne
OTHER: Francou - K.Marshall - Harris
Unavailable:
AFL: NONE
SANFL: (Unsigned: Chamberlain - H.Williams - Weidemann - O'Reilly - Turner - Calvett - Carter - Launer - Pascoe - H.Ferrari - Roberts - Cheesman - O'Brien - Baldwin - Aldridge - Stevens - Brazel - Byrne - W.Ferrari - Cockatoo-Collins - Cooper - Gilchrist)
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Why do you keep putting Atkins in the AFL side? He will not be playing in the side round 1 ahead of any of Lorenz, Berry, Marshall, Burton, Sinn, Mead.
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