True, it would be subjective if teams had players or staff retire or if they recruited new players or staff but that never happens.
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The Farce that is the free kick differential number
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I am sure champion data and the league in general would be open to you coming up with a better method of rating a draw other than last years ladder position.
I look forward to seeing what you can come up with
Never said there was a better method. I'm simply saying it's way less than accurate.
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After the soft draw the Tigers were given to start the year Champion data has rated their run home the 2nd easiest of all 18 teams.
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At half-time it was 5-11 which meant in our last 4 quarters of football we had received 6 free kicks and conceded 25! Then the 2nd half opened with an incorrect goal review, which doesn't appear in the stats, but looked potentially costly for a while.
The one I can't fathom, and have never really understood (so hopefully someone can help me out here), is how Carlisle is reported by the umpire yet there is no 50m penalty. Let's say he is suspended, then that only benefits the Saints opponent next week and not the team he has allegedly offended against.
I was surprised. Thought it would be a dogs supporter arguing that it doesn’t make any difference.
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The carlisle hit was included as a free kick stat too even though he marked it, then no 50. haha
Well that is pretty conclusive proof that Richmond get special treatment from the umpire...but hang on...isn’t this a thread about how tough it is for Richmond and how they don’t get freed?
i'm a firm believer of to understand umpiring you must understand what the AFL wants and needs.
In yesterday's Cass it was helping hawks make the 8, they tried very hard in the first half,the game was basically touch footy and making up things as they go, a kicking in danger was plucked out of no where, luckily it did not affect the result but it make if a horrible watch there was no flow what so ever.
In yesterday's Cass it was helping hawks make the 8, they tried very hard in the first half,the game was basically touch footy and making up things as they go, a kicking in danger was plucked out of no where, luckily it did not affect the result but it make if a horrible watch there was no flow what so ever.
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Very true post
Afl s working on a tight outcome
They would love a last round with lots of live teams
Build a new stadium seems to help too
It's all about getting some fly by night supporters who naturally are immigrants who support winning teams
Dodgy at best
"less than accurate" is what I said. Not less accurate than anything in particular.
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So they have done a uturn?
A lot of Richmond supporters in this thread posting about "being hard done by", citing examples of contentious/incorrect decisions and denying that their play style is a large factor.
I get that you feel aggrieved based on the raw free kick numbers (even though they alone don't tell the whole story), but what exactly are you alleging is the cause of this?
I get that you feel aggrieved based on the raw free kick numbers (even though they alone don't tell the whole story), but what exactly are you alleging is the cause of this?
Richmond frees for 18.2 against 24.4 so yep they give a lot of frees away.
West Coast frees for 22 against 19.2
Norths frees for 24.2 against 19.9.
So the Eagles are rated sixth in the comp, the way you Tigers on here are whinging I would have thought the Eagles would have been much better off.
But lets not let facts get in the way of a good dummy spit!
Frees for per game: 22 (equal 6th)
Frees against: 19.2 (16th)
Differential: +2.8 (3rd)
Most free kicks for: Scott Lycett (21, equal 7th) 2017: Luke Shuey (45, equal 4th)
Most free kicks against: Elliot Yeo (22, equal 3rd) 2017: Luke Shuey (35, equal 14th)
Three free kick facts:
1. The Eagles have given away the second-lowest percentage (13.3) of free kicks in their defensive 50 since the start of 2017.
2. West Coast has conceded the third-highest percentage (4.3) of illegal block free kicks in that time.
3. Nine players have received more high tackle free kicks than Luke Shuey (15) in the past two seasons combined. Joel Selwood has been paid a free 49 times for high tackles. - Travis King
Frees for per game: 24.2 (1st)
Frees against: 19.9 (5th)
Differential: +4.3 (1st)
Most free kicks for: Ben Brown (27, equal-third) 2017: Todd Goldstein (37, equal-13th)
Most free kicks against: Ben Jacobs (22, equal-third) 2017: Robbie Tarrant and Ben Cunnington (30, equal-26th)
Three free kick facts:
1. Ben Brown has kicked the most goals from free kicks (nine) and received the most inside 50 frees (13) this year.
2. Only Melbourne (162) has won more free kicks in the midfield than the Kangaroos (161) in 2018.
3. Jack Ziebell (130) has conceded the 10th-most free kicks in the past five seasons. - Marc McGowan
Frees for per game: 18.2 (18th)
Frees against: 24.4 (1st)
Differential: -6.2 (18th)
Most free kicks for: Toby Nankervis and Alex Rance (16, equal 24th) 2017: Trent Cotchin and Alex Rance (45, 4th)
Most free kicks against: Toby Nankervis (27, 1st) 2017: Dustin Martin (44, 3rd)
Three free kick facts:
1. The Tigers have won 25.5 per cent of their free kicks from holding the ball infringements, which is the third-highest in the League behind St Kilda (26.3 per cent) and Essendon (25.9).
2. Most of their free kicks for have been won in the midfield. They're fourth in the competition with 69.6 per cent of their free kicks being won between the arcs, but have been awarded just 14.9 per cent in defence, which is the third-lowest of all 18 teams.
3. Toby Nankervis has given away the most free kicks in the competition this season, and, across 2017 and the opening 10 rounds of 2018, has been penalised the most for holding the man with 27 of his 64 free kicks awarded for that reason. - Jennifer Phelan
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-30/free-kick-facts-who-gets-em-who-gives-em-away
In some cases the umpires are looking for specific infringements by Richmond and are consequently less attentive to infringements against Richmond.
Exhibit A: the spate of "protected zone" 50's in the season opener.
Will add that I thought the umpires did a reasonable job for the vast majority of last Saturday's game. Lost the plot for a bit in the third quarter though.
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Looks like Richmond have a discipline problem. Must be why we beat them at football nearly half the time
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Richmond frees for 18.2 against 24.4 so yep they give a lot of frees away.
West Coast frees for 22 against 19.2
Norths frees for 24.2 against 19.9.
So the Eagles are rated sixth in the comp, the way you Tigers on here are whinging I would have thought the Eagles would have been much better off.
But lets not let facts get in the way of a good dummy spit!
Frees for per game: 22 (equal 6th)
Frees against: 19.2 (16th)
Differential: +2.8 (3rd)
Most free kicks for: Scott Lycett (21, equal 7th) 2017: Luke Shuey (45, equal 4th)
Most free kicks against: Elliot Yeo (22, equal 3rd) 2017: Luke Shuey (35, equal 14th)
Three free kick facts:
1. The Eagles have given away the second-lowest percentage (13.3) of free kicks in their defensive 50 since the start of 2017.
2. West Coast has conceded the third-highest percentage (4.3) of illegal block free kicks in that time.
3. Nine players have received more high tackle free kicks than Luke Shuey (15) in the past two seasons combined. Joel Selwood has been paid a free 49 times for high tackles. - Travis King
Frees for per game: 24.2 (1st)
Frees against: 19.9 (5th)
Differential: +4.3 (1st)
Most free kicks for: Ben Brown (27, equal-third) 2017: Todd Goldstein (37, equal-13th)
Most free kicks against: Ben Jacobs (22, equal-third) 2017: Robbie Tarrant and Ben Cunnington (30, equal-26th)
Three free kick facts:
1. Ben Brown has kicked the most goals from free kicks (nine) and received the most inside 50 frees (13) this year.
2. Only Melbourne (162) has won more free kicks in the midfield than the Kangaroos (161) in 2018.
3. Jack Ziebell (130) has conceded the 10th-most free kicks in the past five seasons. - Marc McGowan
Frees for per game: 18.2 (18th)
Frees against: 24.4 (1st)
Differential: -6.2 (18th)
Most free kicks for: Toby Nankervis and Alex Rance (16, equal 24th) 2017: Trent Cotchin and Alex Rance (45, 4th)
Most free kicks against: Toby Nankervis (27, 1st) 2017: Dustin Martin (44, 3rd)
Three free kick facts:
1. The Tigers have won 25.5 per cent of their free kicks from holding the ball infringements, which is the third-highest in the League behind St Kilda (26.3 per cent) and Essendon (25.9).
2. Most of their free kicks for have been won in the midfield. They're fourth in the competition with 69.6 per cent of their free kicks being won between the arcs, but have been awarded just 14.9 per cent in defence, which is the third-lowest of all 18 teams.
3. Toby Nankervis has given away the most free kicks in the competition this season, and, across 2017 and the opening 10 rounds of 2018, has been penalised the most for holding the man with 27 of his 64 free kicks awarded for that reason. - Jennifer Phelan
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-05-30/free-kick-facts-who-gets-em-who-gives-em-away
everything I am saying you have just backed it up with stats from the AFL site
Um no.
This thread was created straight after the loss to the Eagles and a gaggle of Tigers posters had a good whinge about how the Eagles get the rub of the green more than any other club.
The facts are the Eagles are sixth in frees differential. Is that a farce?
No it is not.
Looks like your ruck and the tigers style of play has alot to do with the frees against.
I also liked the facts about Shuey and high frees.
But carry on plodding along in your fantasy world based on a lack of emotional intelligence.
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Its a simpsons reference
