Mega Thread The Flat Earth Mega thread.

[kozi]

what do you think raw pixel data is and where do you think there getting it?
type moon in google hit images and look how many fake ones show up. **** i knew that thing the sky was fake. probably one of nasa's weather balloons. these campaigners are everywhere!

Changing the goal posts there. We aren't talking about taking photos of the moon from earth - they are obviously real and look real. We are talking about fake photo's of earth supposedly taken from space.

None of what you're saying proves they are real. And I can't prove they are fake either. All we have to go by is our own eyes. I have perfect 20/20 vision and mine tell me they have always looked like bloody cartoon images, and yours obviously tell you they look real. Neither of us is going to convince one another of anything else.

 

[Sydney Bloods]

Changing the goal posts there. We aren't talking about taking photos of the moon from earth - they are obviously real and look real. We are talking about fake photo's of earth supposedly taken from space.

None of what you're saying proves they are real. And I can't prove they are fake either. All we have to go by is our own eyes. I have perfect 20/20 vision and mine tell me they have always looked like bloody cartoon images, and yours obviously tell you they look real. Neither of us is going to convince one another of anything else.

according to you you have compelling evidence. "no stars in the image" now your saying i just don't believe it.
not happy with photo's ok, i'll help work out the circumference of the globe if you like.

summer solstice is coming up. do you have a stick?

 

[kozi]

according to you you have compelling evidence. "no stars in the image" now your saying i just don't believe it.
not happy with photo's ok, i'll help work out the circumference of the globe if you like.

summer solstice is coming up. do you have a stick?

You do realize according to what you've put forward stars cannot be visible in images of earth taken from outer space. Therefore any image of earth containing stars in the background is fake. Therefore the image I posted that's claimed to be real, and all others like it are fake.



Is a point reached using your own reasoning compelling enough for you?

 

[Sydney Bloods]

You do realize according to what you've put forward stars cannot be visible in images of earth taken from outer space. Therefore any image of earth containing stars in the background is fake. Therefore the image I posted is fake.

when did i claim the image you post was real?
stay with me now, would you like to test the circumference of the earth yourself?
after that we can get to the wee bit harder task of testing C.

I mean you continue to discount other people's observations, i'm happy to help you record your own.

 

[kozi]

when did i claim the image you post was real?
stay with me now, would you like to test the circumference of the earth yourself?
after that we can get to the wee bit harder task of testing C.

I mean you continue to discount other people's observations, i'm happy to help you record your own.

Okay so we've established through your own reasoning that all images of Earth containing stars in the background are fake, even thought they are passed off as being real.

I'm happy to do the test. More then capable of researching how to do it for myself without you even needing to go into it.

I'll do that while you ponder why so many fake images of earth exist, or are even needed when we should have millions of real ones.

 

[Sydney Bloods]

Okay so we've established through your own reasoning that all images of Earth containing stars in the background are fake, even thought they are passed off as being real.

I'm happy to do the test. More then capable of researching how to do it for myself without you even needing to go into it.

I'll do that while you ponder why so many fake images of earth exist, or are even needed when we should have millions of real ones.

millions of? my god man seriously, we don't have millions of photos because politicians aren't going to fund satellites that do nothing but take photos of the blue marble and such a satellite is of limited use to scientists.

and seeing as you've constantly bringing up this photo from your elite googling skills.
i went and looked it up: the image comes from the Elektro-L No.1 Russian weather satellite.

here's a link to article showing the image which hasn't been altered by somebody making it into a wallpaper
it's actually taken from a video.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/12/3016254/russian-satellite-earth-from-space-121-megapixels

and here's a constantly updated gallery: http://electro.ntsomz.ru/en/electro/gallery/

your google-fu need's a bit of work my friend, you see, your image:

http://www.wallpaperup.com/uploads/...ig_thumb_5d57b2dc7d907acd7ba825e6bce4e797.jpg

has clearly been edited, if you can find a link to an official source for your star enhanced version by all means provide it.

 

[Duritz]

I just don't understand how people can go for this garbage. As I said earlier ITT, get out of the city and view the crescent moon through binoculars, you can see the curve of it for yourself.

 

[katana]

even if the moon was curved, what does that have to do with the earth? its not really about 'going for' anything, but rather questioning authorities that seem to get away with anything (see the person in this thread who though an image with an entire country missing was real simply because it was presented as a photo).

 

[Duritz]

even if the moon was curved, what does that have to do with the earth? its not really about 'going for' anything, but rather questioning authorities that seem to get away with anything (see the person in this thread who though an image with an entire country missing was real simply because it was presented as a photo).

Because if the moon is curved then it proves that celestial bodies, of which the earth is one, are curved.

 

[kozi]

Image of earth captured by the Chinese lunar probe:

even if the moon was curved, what does that have to do with the earth? its not really about 'going for' anything, but rather questioning authorities that seem to get away with anything (see the person in this thread who though an image with an entire country missing was real simply because it was presented as a photo).

Not to mention the whole of Indonesia is also missing on that "real" photo taken by the Chinese lunar probe. It should clearly be visible through the gaps of the clouds, just like half of New Zealand should be visible above the horizontal cloud.

Are you people blind?

 

[Thrawn]

Where the hell are all the stars in the background? There should be many. Yet there are hardly any with stars. I bet they have a convenient excuse for why that is so.

You need to learn what camera exposure time means, and how satellites actually take photos.

Go and point your hand-held camera up to the sky and take a picture. The picture will have no stars, even if you can see them. This is due to the amount of light that is picked up.

Here's 1 image with stars I found. Could not look any more fake.

Source of that image? That doesn't look like a satellite image to me.

 

[kozi]

You need to learn what camera exposure time means, and how satellites actually take photos.


Source of that image? That doesn't look like a satellite image to me.

Ok, let's take the Stars and that image completely out of the equation as I can see why they they wouldn't show up. See, unlike some people I have the ability to admit where I was wrong.

Let's get to the real issue. Do you believe that image supposedly taken from the Chinese lunar probe that's being passed off as real is actually real?

Or are we going to continue to ignore it.

 

[Thrawn]

Let's get to the real issue. Do you believe that image supposedly taken from the Chinese lunar probe that's being passed off as real is actually real?

Or are we going to continue to ignore it.

What is the source of the image? Is there a bigger, HD one of it? Smaller landmasses are harder to see when they're pixelated and covered by clouds.

 

[kozi]

What is the source of the image? Is there a bigger, HD one of it? Smaller landmasses are harder to see when they're pixelated and covered by clouds.

A "small" landmass like the whole of Indonesia? Unfortunately and conveniently no, there doesn't appear to be a larger image of it.

You can clearly see where Indonesia is supposed to be is nothing but blue water, the same as where NZ is supposed to be. You don't need a HD image to see that. A HD imagine isn't going to turn blue water into land mass.

It's so obvious that this image and others like it are fake. But I can understand why people will try to make excuses to cling to the notion they are all real, even in the face of entire countries missing from the image. Failure to do so would be accepting they have being deceived, and nobody wants to do that.

 

[Thrawn]

A "small" landmass like the whole of Indonesia? Unfortunately and conveniently no, there doesn't appear to be a larger image of it.

Indonesia is made up by multiple small landmasses, it is a nation full of islands.

You can clearly see where Indonesia is supposed to be is nothing but blue water, the same as where NZ is supposed to be. You don't need a HD image to see that. A HD imagine isn't going to turn blue water into land mass.

It would if small landmasses are pixelated and grainy. That's the whole point of a HD image.

It's so obvious that this image and others like it are fake. But I can understand why people will try to make excuses to cling to the notion they are all real, even in the face of entire countries missing from the image. Failure to do so would be accepting they have being deceived, and nobody wants to do that.

So are you saying satellites don't exist and that we've never pictured Earth from space before?

 

[Thrawn]

Image of the volcanic eruption of Mount Raung, East Java, Indonesia on 5 July 2015 from the MODIS instrument on board the Terra satellite.

Omg! I found Indonesia!

I also found a satellite image of Europe at night:

(Earth at night in the Eastern Hemisphere) April 18 - October 23, 2012. Credit: NOAA NGDC/NASA Earth Observatory, NOAA/NASA Suomi NPP Satellite

See, I actually gave you sources.

How do you think Flightradar24 works? Or Google Earth? I guess they're all fake right?

 

[kozi]

Indonesia is made up by multiple small landmasses, it is a nation full of islands.

It's not made up of land masses the size of Tasmania. There are some very decent sized land masses that should clearly be visible through the clouds.

How about New Zealand? That should clearly be visible too, no mater how "piexelated or grainy".

It would if small landmasses are pixelated and grainy. That's the whole point of a HD image.

No matter how pixelated the land supposedly is there is no chance it would appear as blue water. Sorry but that's really clutching at straws.

So are you saying satellites don't exist and that we've never pictured Earth from space before?

No, I'm saying a fair amount of the ones we're being shown are clearly not real.

Image of the volcanic eruption of Mount Raung, East Java, Indonesia on 5 July 2015 from the MODIS instrument on board the Terra satellite.

Omg! I found Indonesia!

I also found a satellite image of Europe at night:

I'm not the one that posted the image supposedly from the Chinese lunar probe. Perhaps you should ask the person who did for the source

 

[Sublime]

I'm confused as to what a supposedly real chinese satelite image of earth has to do with proving the flat earth theory. Why take one specific unverified image to prove a point?

 

[kozi]

I'm confused as to what a supposedly real chinese satelite image of earth has to do with proving the flat earth theory. Why take one specific unverified image to prove a point?

Well since I don't believe it, I'm obviously not trying to prove the flat earth theory.

I'm simply pointing out that many of the images of Earth taken from space which people believe to be real are not.

 

[Thrawn]

It's not made up of land masses the size of Tasmania. There are some very decent sized land masses that should clearly be visible through the clouds.

How about New Zealand? That should clearly be visible too, no mater how "piexelated or grainy". (Funny that Australia appears as neither pixelated or grainy)

Have you compared the two in size? It's not like you can "hide" Australia.

No matter how pixelated the land supposedly is there is no chance it would appear as blue water. Sorry but that's really clutching at straws.

No, I'm saying a fair amount of the ones we're being shown are clearly not real.

I'm only offering alternate explanations. It's not hard to hide relatively small countries in clouds or a really low def picture.

So why would they fake or airbrush out countries when it would be pretty damn obvious? Or when they were making the fake image they somehow forgot to put in Indonesia and New Zealand? It's absolutely ridiculous that if an organisation were to fake it, they would omit the landmass of countries.

It's a moot point anyway - the source you provided simply could be wrong, or an artist's impression (an artist who failed geography).

I'm not the one that posted the image supposedly from the Chinese lunar probe. Perhaps you should ask the person who did for the source

Why should I be asking for anything when you're the one who is claiming it's fake, and that NASA and co are lying to us? You ask SB for a source.

 

[kozi]

Have you compared the two in size? It's not like you can "hide" Australia.

So because the Indonesian islands aren't the same size as Australia they should not be able to be seen, and instead appear as blue water. Rightio

So why would they fake or airbrush out countries when it would be pretty damn obvious? Or when they were making the fake image they somehow forgot to put in Indonesia and New Zealand? It's absolutely ridiculous that if an organisation were to fake it, they would omit the landmass of countries.

I agree, it's completely ridiculous what they are doing.

It's a moot point anyway - the source you provided simply could be wrong, or an artist's impression (an artist who failed geography).

Do you have some mental block? I didn't post the image in the first place, so no, the source is not mine. Don't know why you keep going back to that.

 

[Thrawn]

So because the Indonesian islands aren't the same size as Australia they should not be able to be seen, and instead appear as blue water. Rightio

No, I'm saying that due to their size, they'd be harder to see if covered by clouds on a very grainy image.

Do you have some mental block? I didn't post the image in the first place, so no, the source is not mine. Don't know why you keep going back to that.

You posted this one earlier as some sort of proof that they're lying, yet you give no source for this image.

 

[kozi]

No, I'm saying that due to their size, they'd be harder to see if covered by clouds on a very grainy image.

You're trying to stretch this point as far as it can go now.

You can click to zoom and still see clearly from closer up that where Indonesia is supposed to be there is nothing but blue water. Harder to see because it's not a HD image doesn't mean land mass disappears all together. Even if it was grainiest of images (which it's not) land mass would still not appear to be plain blue. There would be some form of colouration.

You posted this one earlier as some sort of proof that they're lying, yet you give no source for this image.

Ok, let's take the Stars and that image completely out of the equation as I can see why they they wouldn't show up.

Did you just skip over that part? The image had been edited and links were provided as proof. Either way, that picture is completely irrelevant to the discussion that's being had about the image supposedly from the Chinese Lunar probe. Or do you think it makes your argument seem more legit if you keep coming back it like a dog with a bone?

 

[katana]

lol at the conditioned masses bursting in to defend their authorities. May they never be questioned...

 

[kozi]

Here is the east coast of Australia and the non-existent New Zealand on the "real" image of earth supposedly taken from the Chinese lunar probe. Zoomed into this size it's grainy, but it's clear as day there is no land mass above the cloud where the top half of New Zealand should be. The most northern part of New Zealand is above Sydney and the Eastern side of that cloud slopes down barely above the south coast of Victoria. Look at the colour of Australia's land mass, and look to the East where there is clearly no land mass at all.

It could be even grainier and still be 100% obvious there is no land where New Zealand should be. Completely busted.

I don't get why it's so hard to admit an image that's passed off as being real is in fact fake. Even when it's blatantly obvious like this one. It doesn't require you to completely change your entire world view, or even admit that all pictures of Earth taken from space are fake. All it requires is to see that authorities aren't always 100% honest with the data they put out.

How much of the data is false really isn't the issue. Questions must be asked why any false data claimed to be real even exists at all.