Boxing The General Boxing Discussion Thread

[Around the Wicket]

Pre fight they said they were doing a Christmas card for Tim to show case his new belt in Australia, it wasn't planned after the flogging, they wouldn't do that lol.

 

[Around the Wicket]

Tim has never previously been in serious danger in a fight so I'm ok with his team letting him fight on abit longer.. its not at Rushton / Horn levels as of yet.. Rushton let Horn take some serious beatings lol

 

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If anything I hope he faces Zerafa at some stage and plants a KO fist into the yapping chihuahua .

You would think Tsyzu has to take a minimum 6-8 months off now before another camp, if he rushes back against Zerafa after that beating Zerafa will KO him.

 

[Mesc]

You would think Tsyzu has to take a minimum 6-8 months off now before another camp, if he rushes back against Zerafa after that beating Zerafa will KO him.

I was about to reject that but yeh, anything can happen in boxing.

 

[the_interloper]

I think that was there plan pre fight, they seen this as a easy win and had already planned Tim's next fights, goes to show never overlook your opponent.

His manager said today thats highly unlikely now, if they do a card it'll probably have Nikita as the Main Event now I would think, Tim would have no punch resistance if he fought 2 months after that beating.

Thank **** for that, irresponsible if he gets in the ring within 12 months I think, I'm no doctor of course but I reckon most would agree.

Tim has never previously been in serious danger in a fight so I'm ok with his team letting him fight on abit longer.. its not at Rushton / Horn levels as of yet.. Rushton let Horn take some serious beatings lol

I mean he was in trouble against Fundora of course. But yeah it's a tough balance, you have to give your guy a chance, particularly if it's an IBF belt and Tim had his moments. That's why you don't want to be a trainer, you need to make some tough decisions.

And agreed on Rushton, the Pacquiao fight should have been stopped in the 9th or thereabouts, Pac had him staggering, ordinary stuff (and Pac won FWIW)

 

[Around the Wicket]

I mean he was in trouble against Fundora of course. But yeah it's a tough balance, you have to give your guy a chance, particularly if it's an IBF belt and Tim had his moments. That's why you don't want to be a trainer, you need to make some tough decisions.

And agreed on Rushton, the Pacquiao fight should have been stopped in the 9th or thereabouts, Pac had him staggering, ordinary stuff (and Pac won FWIW)

It was actually Nikita that ended up throwing the towel in, the fight was effectively over after the first knockdown, that was a flush left hook right on the chin.. effectively the same as the AJ fight.

Tim has only himself to blame though he listened to the hype and overlooked his opponent, he should have been defensively aware and eased into the fight, it was like they thought they'd blow right through Bakhram.

TBH I'd never heard of Bakham, I looked at the odds and Tim was paying $1.12 and then Bakhram's resume and only 2 previous opponents had a wiki page which indicates majority of the resume are bums so I thought it'd be easy work for Tim.

 

[Around the Wicket]

I mean he was in trouble against Fundora of course.

A professional corner would have said there fighter is blind from blood after R3 and took the No Contest.

 

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I was about to reject that but yeh, anything can happen in boxing.

If Tsyzu is 100% recovered he walks through Zerafa with ease, gets him out of there early but if he isn't and he rushes back its game on because Zerafa isn't a bum.

 

[the_interloper]

It was actually Nikita that ended up throwing the towel in, the fight was effectively over after the first knockdown, that was a flush left hook right on the chin.. effectively the same as the AJ fight.

Tim has only himself to blame though he listened to the hype and overlooked his opponent, he should have been defensively aware and eased into the fight, it was like they thought they'd blow right through Bakhram.

TBH I'd never heard of Bakham, I looked at the odds and Tim was paying $1.12 and then Bakhram's resume and only 2 previ opponents had a wiki page which indicates majority of the resume are bums so I thought it'd be easy work for Tim.

Is that right? I actually didn't see who threw it, but fair enough.

A professional corner would have said there fighter is blind from blood after R3 and took the No Contest.

Agree with that, I couldn't believe they didn't take the NC, I think they were hoping he'd win like a boss while pissing blood.

 

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If Tim Tszyu wins his IBF super-welterweight showdown against Bakhram Murtazaliev this weekend in Florida, the boxing superstar's next bout will potentially be on Australian soil.

And Tszyu won't have to wait long - his promoters No Limit want to stage the fight on December 29 this year.

'If Tim can win the world title, we are definitely looking for a big Australian homecoming before the end of the year,' No Limit boss Matt Rose told News Corp.

What Tim Tszyu can expect THIS YEAR if he beats Bakhram Murtazaliev

If superstar Australian boxer Tim Tszyu wins his IBF super-welterweight bout against Bakhram Murtazaliev this weekend in the US, his next fight will be sooner than many boxing fans anticipate.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Planning a fight 8 weeks from now pre-fight is pretty arrogant by No Limit and Tim's team lol

 

[The Dougster]

Psychologically ,it’ll take a massive effort to get back to the standing he held in boxing before this fight

Massive mountain to climb again for Tim.

Hats off to Murtazaliev. Knew very little about him. Look forward to watching him again though. A fight against my man Terence Crawford could be on the cards next year.

 

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I can see why Tszyu was so confident, the opponent had a Wilder like bum squad as a resume.

 

[the_interloper]

I can see why Tszyu was so confident, the opponent had a Wilder like bum squad as a resume.

I've read from a lot of Monday experts online how he shouldn't have taken the fight, the dude was too dangerous etc etc, didn't hear that beforehand. I mean if he wants to fight Crawford he needed a legit title belt (preferably more than one), so of course he has to fight someone good.

 

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I've read from a lot of Monday experts online how he shouldn't have taken the fight, the dude was too dangerous etc etc, didn't hear that beforehand. I mean if he wants to fight Crawford he needed a legit title belt (preferably more than one), so of course he has to fight someone good.

Hind sights a beautiful thing but the resume was horrible, 20/22 opponents before Tszyu didn’t even have a wiki page

Tszyu went in there not respecting the opponent and paid the price.

 

[burge13]

I've read from a lot of Monday experts online how he shouldn't have taken the fight, the dude was too dangerous etc etc, didn't hear that beforehand. I mean if he wants to fight Crawford he needed a legit title belt (preferably more than one), so of course he has to fight someone good.

This has shit me no end.

"Tim was never any good" another hot take
"Charlo would have killed him" despite ducking Tim for 3 years?

He has had some dodgy decisions/matchmaking lately but this wasn't one. Without the rematch clause for Fondura how else was he getting a big fight, they got him another title shot here. It was good work really but they obviously overlooked him though

 

[the_interloper]

This has shit me no end.

"Tim was never any good" another hot take
"Charlo would have killed him" despite ducking Tim for 3 years?

He has had some dodgy decisions/matchmaking lately but this wasn't one. Without the rematch clause for Fondura how else was he getting a big fight, they got him another title shot here. It was good work really but they obviously overlooked him though

Yeah i think they took him a bit lightly because of the lack of strength of his opponent, still on paper he's an undefeated Russian IBF champ, can't be a spud.

And yeah agreed on Charlo, he definitely avoided Tim after the Harrison beatdown, that alone really convinced me Tim was going to take on the world.

 

[Around the Wicket]

This has shit me no end.

"Tim was never any good" another hot take
"Charlo would have killed him" despite ducking Tim for 3 years?

He has had some dodgy decisions/matchmaking lately but this wasn't one. Without the rematch clause for Fondura how else was he getting a big fight, they got him another title shot here. It was good work really but they obviously overlooked him though

Boxers generally only fight a few marquee matchups in there career and pad the rest of there record, there is a mindset that if a boxer loses there done... shouldn't be the case.

 

[the_interloper]

Boxers generally only fight a few marquee matchups in there career and pad the rest of there record, there is a mindset that if a boxer loses there done... shouldn't be the case.

One thing MMA has over boxing, a loss is no big deal, some great fighters have kind of shitty records in terms of W-L, Couture was like 19-10 for example. Of course you look at who he fought and how many main events etc and you realise how great a fighter he was.

 

[burge13]

Boxers generally only fight a few marquee matchups in there career and pad the rest of there record, there is a mindset that if a boxer loses there done... shouldn't be the case.

This is dying a bit other than some yanks like Tank but even then many Americans are calling out his resume on twitter now.

Dubois has losses and hes top of the world atm. Itauma taking steps up and taking risks unlike Fisher for example. Slowly it's turning, fans aren't interested in squash matches. The biggest money is best vs best and money will force fighters into marquee fights more often than the last decade imo

 

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The big winner out of this is Goodmans dentist

 

[DazalenkoUBewty]

Nice. Looking forward this upset

 

[estibador]

RIP Goodman.

 

[the_interloper]

Heard some estimates as to what Goodman's getting paid (from a trainer of a No Limit fighter), round about $400k USD they reckon. We were wondering if that's enough!