The "Get Warner In The 50 Side" Thread

[Ghostwriter]

When is the unveiling of Warners statue outside the 'G' going to be?, can't be far away now.

 

[DIG]

Neither can be considered dropped then

Well, the way I see it, Marsh and Watson opened the last ODI, Hopes was one of the 4 named bowlers, coming in at 8.

With Watson gone, they either open with Hopes and bring in another bowler. This means Hopes is your 5th bowler, strong attack.

OR replace Watson with another bat (eg. Warner), leave Hopes at #8 as your 4th bowler, but then rely on Clarke/Hussey/White for your 5th bowler. We haven't had a makeshift 5th bowler like that for a long time, can't see it happening.

So IMO Hopes will open, then it becomes Marsh or Warner with him.

 

[The Passenger]

Warner would be struggling to get a game in the strong NSW side, they are stronger than you think, all of the top order are young players, and a few could play for Australia one day, while warner is a clean striker of the ball he has a bit of a way to go when it comes to the longer form of the game, in district cricket, they are often 2 day games, where as first class level you have 4 day games, big difference when you only have your day to bat, make as many runs as possible and then the same as the opposition, ok, i will admit he is doing everything right to warrant a spot at the top of the ODI team, but to say he should be pushing for a test spot is down right ridiculous. Phillip Hughes, should, and will be, Australias next test opener!

Warner doesn't normally open the batting, except in one-day games. The first time i ever saw him on a scorecard opening the batting was last season in a one-day first grade game. 2-day games, he normally bats 4.

And yes he's still a long way off test cricket, but he has to start playing 4-day games and get him moving in the direction of the test team. There's no doubt he has the talent to play test cricket, but until the NSW selectors start picking him we won't know.

Usman Khawaja, Greg Mail, Ed Cowan are three guys who've got a fair run this year for NSW and have failed, whilst Dave is scoring loads of runs in grade and ODD cricket...

 

[Smoooothy]

When is the unveiling of Warners statue outside the 'G' going to be?, can't be far away now.

2pm this afternoon, get on it...

 

[aussie1st]

Marsh form hasn't been great so Warner can alway replace him with Hopes at the other end. Dave Hussey can share the bowling with Hopes.

 

[Furn]

Anyone else think that in 3 yrs no one will remember who this guy was?

Lets see a bit more if him before we mark him down as the next Bradman.

 

[Yoda_]

Warner doesn't normally open the batting, except in one-day games. The first time i ever saw him on a scorecard opening the batting was last season in a one-day first grade game. 2-day games, he normally bats 4.

And yes he's still a long way off test cricket, but he has to start playing 4-day games and get him moving in the direction of the test team. There's no doubt he has the talent to play test cricket, but until the NSW selectors start picking him we won't know.

Usman Khawaja, Greg Mail, Ed Cowan are three guys who've got a fair run this year for NSW and have failed, whilst Dave is scoring loads of runs in grade and ODD cricket...

what happened in the late 90s, they seperated the one day side and the test team so they could be far more competitive, in the years to follow, well decade to follow, Australia has since won, three world cups (99,03,07) been test champions since ICC rankings were introduced (2003?) and has won nearly twice as many games as any other test playing nations in this time (97 - 2007) Warner is not a 5 day player, everyone wants him to be, but they fact of the matter of test cricket is, endurance, and even batting takes it out of you, and Warner, for all his fours and sixes, i feel, would throw his wikcet away more than he gets hundreds (ie: Brad Haddin, Andrew Symonds)

Did you know Gilly played in the one day side for nearly 2 years before he was called into the test side, because he was far better suited to ODI than Healy was, why did M.Clarke play in the ODI team for nearly 3 years, because ODI were getting quicker, and players like Bevan/Lehman/Waugh's, could not play the faster format of the game.

All I am saying is that, Warner is best suited to the shorter formats to the game, so is Shaun Tait for example, Warner cannot get a game in the NSW team because they are a strong unit, so that argument is flawed Thornley, Forrest, Rohrer are all doing an extremely good job.

As I said before in my last post. Warner can play T20 and ODI, and Hughes can play in the test arena, as he (Hughes) is far better suited to that format of the game.

 

[chaddles]

Warner should definitely get a shot at 1 dayers, he has an average of 64 in domestic 1 dayers from 8 games so he should definitely be considered for this Fridays match IMO - opening would suit him with the field restrictions in place, could absolutely destroy teams in the first 10 overs. Will be watching what he does in Brisbane with great interest.

As for test cricket, I think he is still a couple of full seasons of Shield cricket away from even being considered.

 

[abs_of_STEELE]

He was amazing last night and he must play in the ODI's.

 

[Fat Tony]

Anyone else think that in 3 yrs no one will remember who this guy was?

Lets see a bit more if him before we mark him down as the next Bradman.

deep down people are probably thinking about that but considering his debut its hard not to get your hopes up.

 

[jaydub]

Definitely chuck him in the one day side opening and leave him in the twenty20 team.

In regards to playing test cricket he's a slogger not a century maker so test cricket isn't for him especially now considering the amount of cricket being played, there won't be many players playing all 3 forms of cricket for Australia.

 

[The Passenger]

what people saw last night is him in overdrive.

anyone who thinks he's slogger needs to get down and watch him play in grade cricket (obviousbly most of you guys aren't from sydney so i know that's not going to happen). he bats aggresivelly but it's a far more controlled agression than last night.

to say test cricket is not for him is redicolous when you consider he's been one of the most dominating players in sydney grade cricket for a couple of seasons now. why he hasn't played shield cricket yet is a mystery. even before last night he should've been playing in our shield.

we'll see how he goes in the shield, but to pigeon-hole him as a one-day specialiast would be stupid.

 

[grimlock]

Mail out, Warner in. Talk about totally contrasting players!

 

[courtjester]

I find it interesting how someone who hits the ball beautifully and more cleanly than others is referred to as 'just a slogger'. It obviously means the guy has incredible hand-eye co-ordination, sweet timing, and if he makes 80 against quality bowling (Ntini, Steyn) then he obviously has enough shot selection to know how to not get out.

As great as Mark Waugh, David Gower and VVS Laxman were to watch, not everyone can bat like that. Brute force and a great eye are a legitimate skill in the longer forms of the game as well.

I reckon Warner has a massive future, he's not 'just a slogger'. He has a great eye and a powerful swing. It'll be interesting to follow his career after such a noticable start...

 

[Spitz]

I find it interesting how someone who hits the ball beautifully and more cleanly than others is referred to as 'just a slogger'. It obviously means the guy has incredible hand-eye co-ordination, sweet timing, and if he makes 80 against quality bowling (Ntini, Steyn) then he obviously has enough shot selection to know how to not get out.

As great as Mark Waugh, David Gower and VVS Laxman were to watch, not everyone can bat like that. Brute force and a great eye are a legitimate skill in the longer forms of the game as well.

I reckon Warner has a massive future, he's not 'just a slogger'. He has a great eye and a powerful swing. It'll be interesting to follow his career after such a noticable start...

He has some very similar traits to K.Pieterson

The sort you cant teach.


Most on thsi site would of had you believe he was a one day specialst, but hed still be the captain of the English test side if they got their shit together.



Im willing to give Warner a season or two in shield cricket before I pigeon hole him as a "T20 or ODI specialist"

And LOL at people baggin Haddin and Symonds, as "one day specialists"

Haddin is averging 38 with the bat, having already scored a century from his 12 matches.

Boucher has scored 6 in his career, and is considered one of the modern day great wicket-keeper batsman.


Symonds ave's 40.


Real flops


People on this site are clueless, because most of you are 15-20 year olds, having grown up watching some of the ALL time greats.

Symonds and Haddin would of gotten games in nearly every single era of our test playing side.

 

[Magpies696]

Can Warner put another game under his belt and put on another show

 

[John Bonney]

Dave Warner was ''Just A Suburban Boy''.

 

[rdhopkins2]

Fantastic debut from Warner of Sunday night. Need to be careful not to throw him right in the deep end to quick or burn him out. Here is hoping he repeats the dose tonight!

 

[pluga_4]

well he has his chance to prove himself now.

with m clarke out he's got the next 4 odi's

 

[GO the stewarts]

He is set to play in Tasmania tomorrow.

 

[XFactor1979]

we got him in the side

scored 1 run less than mike hussey opening the innings

youre damned if you do, youre damned if you dont

 

[Cleavy]

becoming a one-trick pony?

 

[bluechampion]

He got a good ball, but we've seen the best of Warner. He'll get dropped, his coaches will tell him to pull his head in and play 'proper' cricket... he'll start to eliminate risk from his game to achieve consistency and then he'll just be another bloke who hits the ball hard.

 

[Audacious]

has the bubble burst or will it require 1 more fail for that to happen?

 

[chaddles]

I love the guy and reckon he could very well be a devastating opener - but the last 2 dismissals were the result of inexperience and poor shot selection.

Definitely think he should play in the next match, and see what happens - to debut as an opener against one of the best teams in the world is surely to show what he is made of. If he fails next match, then I think they should send him back to state cricket - I would of preferred Hughes to of played before Warner, maybe he could be his replacement....