Politics The Hangar Politics Thread

[Ben the Gooner]

Well this is a great way to totally and utterly turn my point into something else entirely.

I was neither defending nor attacking Abbott. I was calling Fairfax (on topic) a pack of campaigners.

 

[Whispering_Jack]

Well this is a great way to totally and utterly turn my point into something else entirely.

I was neither defending nor attacking Abbott. I was calling Fairfax (on topic) a pack of campaigners.

As were/are News Ltd

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Who gives a ****? Does that justify Fairfax's grubby behaviour?

Jesus ****ing Christ you people suck.

 

[Phone]

also the guardian started the scholarship thing.

 

[Whispering_Jack]

Who gives a ****? Does that justify Fairfax's grubby behaviour?

Jesus ******* Christ you people suck.

Who's justifying it? Most people were pointing out that it has happened both ways.

 

[Jade]

Who gives a ****? Does that justify Fairfax's grubby behaviour?

Jesus ******* Christ you people suck.

I have doubts about your lifting.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

What relevance does News Ltd or Julia Gillard have to Fairfax's grubbiness.

It's all so you can pick and choose who you defend from these character assassinations. Tanya Hird, off limits. Abbott Jr? Fair game!

**** me dead.

 

[Whispering_Jack]

What relevance does News Ltd or Julia Gillard have to Fairfax's grubbiness.

It's all so you can pick and choose who you defend from these character assassinations. Tanya Hird, off limits. Abbott Jr? Fair game!

**** me dead.

You are picking and choosing who you are outraged over. I didn't see this outrage before the last election!

 

[GUMBLETRON]

If Tanya Hird had taken something that looked distinctly like a $60,000 bribe on behalf of James then it's open season. Besides, pointing out the reality of grubby politics is hardly character assassination, particularly when there's very little character there to assassinate.

 

[Doss]

Fairfax publications character assassinate people sometimes, and so do News Ltd publications.

Both as bad as each other in that regard.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

You are picking and choosing who you are outraged over. I didn't see this outrage before the last election!

I just called Fairfax a bunch of grubby campaigners and everyone tried to turn it into an attack on Abbott/passionate defence of Gillard.

If News Ltd were crying foul about being called a pack of grubby campaigners, then you'd have a point, but they weren't so you don't.

 

[Jade]

Doth thou even lifteth?

 

[Whispering_Jack]

I just called Fairfax a bunch of grubby campaigners and everyone tried to turn it into an attack on Abbott/passionate defence of Gillard.

If News Ltd were crying foul about being called a pack of grubby campaigners, then you'd have a point, but they weren't so you don't.

I understand that this all started because you pointed out that Fairfax were complaining about News Ltd, but if you bring it back to the current attacks on Abbott and his Government, people will bring News Ltd's attack on the former government and say that they both do it - which is again the point, they are both as bad as each other.

 

[Whispering_Jack]

Doth thou even lifteth?

No... You should have quit while you were ahead...

 

[Jade]

No... You should have quit while you were ahead...

Screw you that was awesome.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

I understand that this all started because you pointed out that Fairfax were complaining about News Ltd, but if you bring it back to the current attacks on Abbott and his Government, people will bring News Ltd's attack on the former government and say that they both do it - which is again the point, they are both as bad as each other.

Which is exactly the attitude of all the ****wits with their "hilarious" and not-at-all-overdone social media attacks on the PM which encourages journalism to be reduced to this shit. By even trying to defend attacks on Abbott, you're totally undermining your right to be outraged at attacks on Hird, attacks on Gillard etc.

In other words, you're a hypocrit.

 

[Whispering_Jack]

Which is exactly the attitude of all the *******s with their "hilarious" and not-at-all-overdone social media attacks on the PM which encourages journalism to be reduced to this shit. By even trying to defend attacks on Abbott, you're totally undermining your right to be outraged at attacks on Hird, attacks on Gillard etc.

In other words, you're a hypocrit.

Well, when you say "you're", you cannot mean me because I never defended the attacks but merely pointed out that it has occured both ways. In any case, it was there before (and before that, and before that), it's there now. Nothing is going to change it.

 

[Doss]

I think there's a difference between defending the attacks on Abbott and pointing out it is a continuation of a theme that is common to both sides of journalism and politics.

I haven't, on the whole, seen the former here. But plenty of the latter.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

Defend/deflect. It's all the same piece of the hypocritical pie.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

I think there's a difference between defending the attacks on Abbott and pointing out it is a continuation of a theme that is common to both sides of journalism and politics.

I haven't, on the whole, seen the former here. But plenty of the latter.

But but but Abbott started it. MUUUUUUUUUUUUM

 

[Whispering_Jack]

And I would be surprised if people didn't defend attacks on Gillard because she led "the worst Government in Australia's history"...

 

[Whispering_Jack]

But but but Abbott started it. MUUUUUUUUUUUUM

Nice.

 

[Jade]

Which is exactly the attitude of all the *******s with their "hilarious" and not-at-all-overdone social media attacks on the PM which encourages journalism to be reduced to this shit. By even trying to defend attacks on Abbott, you're totally undermining your right to be outraged at attacks on Hird, attacks on Gillard etc.

In other words, you're a hypocrit.

I haven't defended the attacks at all.

Been fairly consistent in my opinion that media in Australia is complete horseshit.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

And I would be surprised if people didn't defend attacks on Gillard because she led "the worst Government in Australia's history"...

No need for inverted commas there, but personal attacks, like the shite directed to her husband, have nothing to do with her ability or otherwise as PM. Just like they don't for Abbott, or for Hird. But go ahead, keep picking and choosing what's acceptable based on your personal biases. Just don't bother complaining next time some bottom feeder like Wilson goes after Hird out of context. Or when some two-bit hack at News Ltd puts in a cheap shot about Gillard.

 

[Ben the Gooner]

I haven't defended the attacks at all.

Been fairly consistent in my opinion that media in Australia is complete horseshit.

What's your point? My comments weren't directed to you at all.