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[faible]

What a lot of people get wrong about the infamous 1994 McDonald’s hot coffee lawsuit

Adam Ruins Everything explains that the case wasn’t about greed, but about a working-class woman forcing a big company to make its product safer.

www.google.com

I learned something new this morning.

 

[dank420_]

I hope none of these activists idiots use any fossil fuels in their lives, and nothing taken from the ground either.

Yes, let's forbid anyone who participates in a society that they were born into wish to change it. What a stupid argument.

 

[Howard Moon]

What a lot of people get wrong about the infamous 1994 McDonald’s hot coffee lawsuit

Adam Ruins Everything explains that the case wasn’t about greed, but about a working-class woman forcing a big company to make its product safer.

www.google.com

im not even suggesting it was greed though, it just a set a ball in motion that almost allows people not to take responsibility for their own actions

i mean in a similar vein, at school my kids cant have peanut butter, nutella, anything egg related because a kid is allergic to eggs and a few peanuts.

Doesn't this allow the parent of those kids to just relax and say oh its ok, there is no nuts at school (meanwhile every other kid has to go without) Id suggest those parents should always have to be on guard as standard because their child has a life threatening issue.

i dunno, perhaps my take is whack (or im annoyed cause they only sandwich my kid will eat is peanut butter and we cant have it)

 

[BrunoV]

Yes, let's forbid anyone who participates in a society that they were born into wish to change it. What a stupid argument.

You should always start by cleaning your room.

 

[Happyskeret]

 

[dank420_]

You should always start by cleaning your room.

That leads to shaving my balls, which leads to becoming a living mental breakdown. NO thanks!

 

[Lore]

im not even suggesting it was greed though, it just a set a ball in motion that almost allows people not to take responsibility for their own actions

i mean in a similar vein, at school my kids cant have peanut butter, nutella, anything egg related because a kid is allergic to eggs and a few peanuts.

Doesn't this allow the parent of those kids to just relax and say oh its ok, there is no nuts at school (meanwhile every other kid has to go without) Id suggest those parents should always have to be on guard as standard because their child has a life threatening issue.

i dunno, perhaps my take is whack (or im annoyed cause they only sandwich my kid will eat is peanut butter and we cant have it)

I don't think kids under 10 have legal liability, it would be on the parents for any financial stuff against the kid (such as if your kid broke a window) and the teachers for a breach of duty of care if one of the kids goes into anaphylactic shock.

By comparison, most workplaces don't have allergen-free rules because adults aren't at high risk of getting peanut butter all over their face, wiping it on their hands or sharing a lollipop with the person who is allergic.

 

[boncer34]

im not even suggesting it was greed though, it just a set a ball in motion that almost allows people not to take responsibility for their own actions

i mean in a similar vein, at school my kids cant have peanut butter, nutella, anything egg related because a kid is allergic to eggs and a few peanuts.

Doesn't this allow the parent of those kids to just relax and say oh its ok, there is no nuts at school (meanwhile every other kid has to go without) Id suggest those parents should always have to be on guard as standard because their child has a life threatening issue.

i dunno, perhaps my take is whack (or im annoyed cause they only sandwich my kid will eat is peanut butter and we cant have it)

Sure but none of the applies to the person who nearly died because McDonalds knowingly made their coffee to hot.

 

[Howard Moon]

I don't think kids under 10 have legal liability, it would be on the parents for any financial stuff against the kid (such as if your kid broke a window) and the teachers for a breach of duty of care if one of the kids goes into anaphylactic shock.

By comparison, most workplaces don't have allergen-free rules because adults aren't at high risk of getting peanut butter all over their face, wiping it on their hands or sharing a lollipop with the person who is allergic.

you havent seen our breakroom then

 

[Howard Moon]

Sure but none of the applies to the person who nearly died because McDonalds knowingly made their coffee to hot.

if you ask my mum, no coffee is too hot, she sends them back for being cold all the time - weirdo she is sometimes

 

[Howard Moon]

You should always start by cleaning your room.

all comes back to the lobster

 

[Nifft]

That leads to shaving my balls, which leads to becoming a living mental breakdown. NO thanks!

Maybe you should swap to a safety blade instead of a using a straight razor, and then you'd be a lot less stressed.

 

[IHurley]

The key word is "sacrifice".

If you would expect to sacrifice more than what you ask of others then you're not a hypocrite and you're welcome to continue pontificating.

If you expect to sacrifice less then you're a complete **** and should have your life destroyed.

Asking coal miners to stop feeding their families when you won't even forgo a first-class flight is the latter.

And now you all understand good vs evil. Cummins is the latter.

You're welcome.

 

[dank420_]

The key word is "sacrifice".

If you would expect to sacrifice more than what you ask of others then you're not a hypocrite and you're welcome to continue pontificating.

If you expect to sacrifice less then you're a complete **** and should have your life destroyed.

Asking coal miners to stop feeding their families when you won't even forgo a first-class flight is the latter.

And now you all understand good vs evil. Cummins is the latter.

You're welcome.

RIP Cummins I guess

 

[Nifft]

all comes back to the lobster

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Is it weird that I'm hungry for lobster now?

 

[Howard Moon]

Is it weird that I'm hungry for lobster now?

eat the loser one..

 

[Beerfish]

eat the loser one..

But if you eat the one that cleans its room you absorb its powers.

 

[Howard Moon]

Essendon FC - now sponsored by the Lobster cave ?

 

[Nifft]

eat the loser one..

No I'd eat the winning lobster, I don't want the rest of the lobsters getting delusions of grandeur.

 

[IHurley]

Being able to criticise freely is what we should all enjoy and respect.

I'm willing to bet good money that you support every opportunity to censor people you disagree with.

 

[frodos gardener]

I'm willing to bet good money that you support every opportunity to censor people you disagree with.

I’ve got an attribute that wants to get back at people that I feel have done me wrong and it’s not my finest character trait, although I’ve never crossed to the wrong side of the law to “get even”. I absolutely hate my voice being shut down if I feel it’s not the same for others. Thankfully it doesn’t happen often so it’s not something I have to worry about often. It’s for this reason I’m mostly anti-censorship, but if you censor one side then you have to do the other, too.

 

[Maddogm]

The league don't care because they make a fortune off it, the government don't care because they make a fortune off it (and unlike cigarettes there's no health expense associated with it ... yet)

There is, it's just ignored

 

[IHurley]

I’ve got an attribute that wants to get back at people that I feel have done me wrong and it’s not my finest character trait, although I’ve never crossed to the wrong side of the law to “get even”. I absolutely hate my voice being shut down if I feel it’s not the same for others. Thankfully it doesn’t happen often so it’s not something I have to worry about often. It’s for this reason I’m mostly anti-censorship, but if you censor one side then you have to do the other, too.

Then I apologise. There is a general dichotomy though. One side's entire moral and practical basis is reciprocation. The other side's entire moral and practical basis is coercion.

When you look at it through this lens it is very simple. Cummins supports coercing others to make what would be a significant sacrifice. So it is only right and proper that he himself be coerced to make at least as large a sacrifice himself.

In theory, both sides should be happy. My side because it involves reciprocation and his side because it involves coercion. Oddly, Cummins and the people who agree with him don't want to be coerced. That, you see, is why they are fundamentally bad people.

 

[frodos gardener]

Then I apologise. There is a general dichotomy though. One side's entire moral and practical basis is reciprocation. The other side's entire moral and practical basis is coercion.

When you look at it through this lens it is very simple. Cummins supports coercing others to make what would be a significant sacrifice. So it is only right and proper that he himself be coerced to make at least as large a sacrifice himself.

In theory, both sides should be happy. My side because it involves reciprocation and his side because it involves coercion. Oddly, Cummins and the people who agree with him don't want to be coerced. That, you see, is why they are fundamentally bad people.

I’m loosely with you on Cummins (in this situation) FWIW. I don’t think he’s a bad person though. I reckon he probably hasn’t thought it through properly.

 

[dank420_]

Then I apologise. There is a general dichotomy though. One side's entire moral and practical basis is reciprocation. The other side's entire moral and practical basis is coercion.

When you look at it through this lens it is very simple. Cummins supports coercing others to make what would be a significant sacrifice. So it is only right and proper that he himself be coerced to make at least as large a sacrifice himself.

In theory, both sides should be happy. My side because it involves reciprocation and his side because it involves coercion. Oddly, Cummins and the people who agree with him don't want to be coerced. That, you see, is why they are fundamentally bad people.

Does extreme hyperbole make you a good person?