Mega Thread The Hird Appeal - Day 2 - Full Summary post #2

[corio bay]

I see - you wish to go back and continue throwing shit at Hardie and Hird. Why the **** have you waited until now to protest at the shit throwing which has been derailing the thread from the very beginning. Could it be that you are only objecting now that the shit throwing by the foamers has been challenged?

What are you on about. The guy makes a plea to keep off topic shit out of this thread and you reply with more off topic shit.

If you want to have a crack at Howe, ASADA, Chris Kaias - go ahead, no one is stopping you.

But stop being a whinging princess about it.

 

[Sir Hugh Percy]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 6s6 seconds ago
Hanks: ASADA lacked the power to bring the AFL into the interviews to coerce answers and that is what it did

He's got to show us that they lacked this power, not just state it.

 

[Oneiros]

Tremendously weak argument imo

 

[compact72]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 11s11 seconds ago
Besanko: but AFL could continue to investigate governance? Hanks: yes

 

[LoungeLizard]

Can we not have this thread descend into a shit fight please, it's hard enough to ******* follow as it is....

exact reason he posted that tweet imo

 

[compact72]

I think Besanko is doing the work for ASADA

Must be in on making Hird the scapegoat

 

[evo]

Stop crying Martin. It's not a good look.

Every day he gets just a little more poutty. A full on melt can't be that far away.

Delicious.

 

[FuManchu]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 17s17 seconds ago
Besanko: do you maintain position that AFL couldn't continue to investigate ADRVs themselves? Hanks: yes we do

Doesn't the AFL anti doping regulations allow them to?

 

[compact72]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 32s32 seconds ago
Kenny: could ASADA have asked AFL to ask questions and get answers after? Why shouldn't ASADA say ask following people these things..

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 15s15 seconds ago
Hanks: that would have been legitimate. Not course followed here

 

[compact72]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 5s5 seconds ago
Besanko: doesn't that mean that if AFL did it themselves that AFL could have couriered to ASADA offices? Hanks: depends on "cooperation"

 

[compact72]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 9s9 seconds ago
Hanks: we are pointing to an absence of power, don't need to look for prohibitions and indirect actions

 

[coryne]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 32s32 seconds ago
Kenny: could ASADA have asked AFL to ask questions and get answers after? Why shouldn't ASADA say ask following people these things..

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 15s15 seconds ago
Hanks: that would have been legitimate. Not course followed here

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 5s5 seconds ago
Besanko: doesn't that mean that if AFL did it themselves that AFL could have couriered to ASADA offices? Hanks: depends on "cooperation"

Just me or is this basically the same direction that Middleton went with his verdict ???

 

[corio bay]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 5s5 seconds ago
Besanko: doesn't that mean that if AFL did it themselves that AFL could have couriered to ASADA offices? Hanks: depends on "cooperation"

smackdown!

 

[Art Corvelay]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 32s32 seconds ago
Kenny: could ASADA have asked AFL to ask questions and get answers after? Why shouldn't ASADA say ask following people these things..

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 15s15 seconds ago
Hanks: that would have been legitimate. Not course followed here

Unless I'm misreading, Hanks is saying ASADA could have given AFL questions to ask, which players would be compelled to answer, but ASADA been in interviews with AFL and using AFL powers is not on. What's the difference?

 

[FuManchu]

Sounds like Hank is having his own questions answered by himself regarding the futility of his case

 

[Oneiros]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 32s32 seconds ago
Kenny: could ASADA have asked AFL to ask questions and get answers after? Why shouldn't ASADA say ask following people these things..

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 15s15 seconds ago
Hanks: that would have been legitimate. Not course followed here

I think this ties in to the futility points made by Middleton, and further makes a meal of their argument the AFL is not entitled to investigate itself, and their argument that ASADA cannot make use of the AFL's powers of compulsion.

 

[compact72]

Its like Hird is trying to argue, every other way would of been legal except the way it was done.

Overall picture, scared of the evidence

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Can we not have this thread descend into a shit fight please, it's hard enough to ******* follow as it is....

My ignore list doesn't work when viewing thru tapatalk.

 

[Sir Hugh Percy]

Doesn't the AFL anti doping regulations allow them to?

Seems like a ridiculous position to me, there must have been more to it than that.

 

[coryne]

There was plenty of shit throwing - your problem is that you, like school girls, prefer to act collectively and that the mods will protect you.

Please show me this "plenty" of shit which was being thrown around. It should be simple, I am sure you bookmarked it all for future reference .............

 

[compact72]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 44s44 seconds ago
Hanks now goes to waiver point. About claim Hird nailed colours to mast. But [95]-[96]..never a finding that Hird asked for unlawful inv

 

[Oneiros]

There was plenty of shit throwing - your problem is that you, like school girls, prefer to act collectively and that the mods will protect you.

Is your next trick to call us "economic girlie men"? Or is the giggling schoolgirl references not actually attempting to use gender stereotypes pejoratively?

 

[Boxhead_31]

Unless I'm misreading, Hanks is saying ASADA could have given AFL questions to ask, which players would be compelled to answer, but ASADA been in interviews with AFL and using AFL powers is not on. What's the difference?

That's what he is saying, his point is that ASADA should have followed that process an not have both parties in on the interviews suggesting that the act doesn't allow for that to happen

 

[Art Corvelay]

Its like Hird is trying to argue, every other way would of been legal except the way it was done.

Overall picture, scared of the evidence

Yep, that's exactly how it looks. Howe's point that Hird didn't raise objection until unfavourable outcome is bang on.

 

[onemancyclone]

Its like Hird is trying to argue, every other way would of been legal except the way it was done.

Overall picture, scared of the evidence

Bingo. Doesn't care what way was used, as long as it's different to whatever way chosen.

He spent a million on this. Loving it.