Mega Thread The Hird Appeal - Day 2 - Full Summary post #2

[compact72]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 4s4 seconds ago
Howe says ASADA doesn't request any non publication orders. Content for the whole of their submissions being published

 

[FuManchu]

Is hanks a liberal?

Big L

 

[compact72]

Is hanks a liberal?

I'm pretty sure I had read that somewhere yesterday

 

[compact72]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 28s28 seconds ago
Kenny will make an order that submissions on both side be made public

 

[KnobHead]

Is hanks a liberal?

Hanks is a silk getting paid a bucket load to represent his client

 

[Argy]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 4s4 seconds ago
Howe says ASADA doesn't request any non publication orders. Content for the whole of their submissions being published

No redactions?

 

[jenny61_99]

Big L

Not to be confused with Hirds spin doctor Ian Hanke?

 

[compact72]

Not to be confused with Hirds spin doctor Ian Hanke?

Possible. My bad

 

[compact72]

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 11s11 seconds ago
Howe wants Hird team to remove reference to ASADA deliberately acting unlawfully

Chris Kaias @ChrisKaias · 28s28 seconds ago
Decision is reserved. Court adjourned

 

[jenny61_99]

Judgement reserved. Court adjourned. Now we wait.

 

[TedDougChris]

What are you on about. The guy makes a plea to keep off topic shit out of this thread and you reply with more off topic shit.

If you want to have a crack at Howe, ASADA, Chris Kaias - go ahead, no one is stopping you.

But stop being a whinging princess about it.

Thank you kind sir - I don't think I've bagged anyone in this thread today.... But I might have forgotten one or two posts....

 

[onemancyclone]

I thought the EFC invited both in to investigate?

Part of the original trial was Hird and Co explaining why his public statements to this effect shouldn't be believed.

 

[jenny61_99]

Thanks to the peeps keeping everyone updated with the tweets. No thanks for the continued attempt to turn it into a circus by some.

 

[FuManchu]

Not to be confused with Hirds spin doctor Ian Hanke?

They don't morph? Too many 'H's in this saga

 

[Albert Ross]

Hank's argument seems to be that Hird had shit lawyers at the interview for not telling him to invoke privelige.

Scenario 1

1. AFL / ASADA ask a question
2. Hird says I refuse to answer, I am invoking my right to silence.
3. AFL says you have no right to silence, you waived it when you signed a contract.
4. Hird says "I think we should test that in a court of law"

Scenario 2
1. AFL / ASADA ask a question
2. Hird answers
3. Hird invokes right to silence
4. AFL / ASADA point out he has already answered the question
5. Hird says "I think we should test that in a court of law"

 

[pantskyle]

So how long do we wait for the judges to make a decision?

 

[compact72]

So how long do we wait for the judges to make a decision?

Nobody knows. COuld be a day, week, month, months

Expect a month~

 

[FuManchu]

Scenario 1

1. AFL / ASADA ask a question
2. Hird says I refuse to answer, I am invoking my right to silence.
3. AFL says you have no right to silence, you waived it when you signed a contract.
4. Hird says "I think we should test that in a court of law"

Scenario 2
1. AFL / ASADA ask a question
2. Hird answers
3. Hird invokes right to silence
4. AFL / ASADA point out he has already answered the question
5. Hird says "I think we should test that in a court of law"

Scenario 3
Courier Pigeons

 

[Boxhead_31]

They don't morph? Too many 'H's in this saga

What I've learnt from these trials is if you want to be a lawyer change your last name to start with a H

 

[Lance Uppercut]

The point-in-time concurrency. It is why one of the Justices hypothesised a courier. The AFL would be within their rights to record the interview and forward them to ASADA within 1 second of them finishing according to the Hird position.

I don't think that's the case actually.

The whole argument is based around the evidence being entrusted. I believe there would have to be some oversight as to what evidence is "couriered" - that is the defining point

 

[AsIfYouCare]

Appealing a judgement based upon evidence not presented to the primary judge.

Dream on.

I agree it doesn't help, but this is a legal argument, not evidence - so it isn't quite as bad.

 

[Tiges1229]

So does anyone reckon Hird's appeal will be successful ?

 

[Brown_DOG68]

They don't morph? Too many 'H's in this saga

to sum up

Hanks Heralds Hird's Hubris
Howe Honours Honors' Hunger

 

[Boxhead_31]

So how long do we wait for the judges to make a decision?

IF I recall there was reference to this somewhere, if my little grey cells are behaving themselves there is a period early Dec when the finding can be delivered, if not then then early Jan will be the time.

 

[pantskyle]

IF I recall there was reference to this somewhere, if my little grey cells are behaving themselves there is a period early Dec when the finding can be delivered, if not then then early Jan will be the time.

That long for the whole thing to be laughed at and thrown out?