Play Nice The NM Devil's Chessboard Thread - Part II

[The Warlord]

"Everyone who stands up to my bullshit is a nazi"

You really need a new schtick, SLF.

Not everyone, but those Ukranian scum on the main board certainly are.

 

[The Warlord]

Ha.

I didn't leave highschool when I was 20.
I left highschool after year 11 to go into the workforce ASAP because of my home situation.

But tell me more about how I'm a privileged right winger or whatever.

You are privileged by dint of being a white male (surely you know that from your profession).

You are right wing in what you post here.

I've asked you before what you consider "left" politics to be, and you've never answered.

(I had an unemployed parent for periods at high school too fwiw.)

 

[The Warlord]

I'll tell you one thing for free, anyone who does grow up in a place that's heavily policed - usually places that are genuinely poor and the inhabitants don't have any privilege at all - rapidly develops a life long visceral hatred for them

(Like most of these things the training you did allowed those in charge to claim an easy PR stunt, but certainly didn't filter down to the dogs at St Kilda and how they treated Danni Laidley did it?)

 

[DesertRoo]

I'm not the one dodging extremely simple questions.

And to answer yours;

Yes I worked for a defense contractor when I was 20, when I left high school early to support my single mum who had lost her job.

And yes I worked for Victoria Police in a community+multicultural focused role specifically funded to address the organisations past discrimination. One of the things I led, for example, was the Chief Commissioner's apology to the LGBTIQA+ community for historic injustice.

Want to tell me again how that makes me a right winger?

Who did you vote for in the Senate?

Nah, I’ve followed enough of your posting to know you’re a neocon playing identity politics, when push comes to shove you always default to some pretty horrific positions.

 

[Chadwiko]

I've asked you before what you consider "left" politics to be, and you've never answered.

I don't recall you ever asking that, but my tldr answer (and in no particular order) would be;

• Commitment to real action on climate change
• Embracing and supporting a multicultural community
• Unequivocal support for social welfare, including things like working conditions, universal healthcare, pensions, etc
• Understand and support the importance of public health and safety (vaccines work, ****ers)
• Unwavering support for public education, from early childhood through to higher education
• Human rights as a foundational necessity for a free society
• Pursuing cooperation and partnerships with other nations based on democratic ideals of freedom and equality
• LGBTIQA+ rights for all, and a strong educational platform that teaches children safe sex practices as well as equality and cultural safety (safe schools is a great program )
• Tax the rich
• Opposing xenophobia, racism, homophobia/transphobia, etc
• Socialism is not a dirty word
• Working hard to eliminate poverty
• No guns - community safety outweighs individual liberty in this regard
• Legalise cannabis
• I'm sure I'm forgetting other stuff

 

[Chadwiko]

Nah, I’ve followed enough of your posting to know you’re a neocon playing identity politics, when push comes to shove you always default to some pretty horrific positions.

Stop dodging the question.

Unless you're embarrassed to answer.

I ONEder what NATIONal platform you support

 

[DesertRoo]

Watch out, you'll lose your BigFooty reputation with a bunch of semi literate Carlton supporting peasants who have grandfather's Waffen SS Galicia Division cap framed in the living room if you keep this up.

Conversation consists of
Who did you vote for…
Wtf?
Tell me..
um no
Tell me cause I really want to confirm my biases.
um no

 

[DesertRoo]

Stop dodging the question.

Unless you're embarrassed to answer.

I ONEder what NATIONal platform you support

You are genuinely an idiot if you think I voted that way..

 

[Chadwiko]

You are genuinely an idiot if you think I voted that way..

You're the one dodging the simple question over and over again.

Ball is in your court.

You seem like a Pauline + Clive Palmer fan.

 

[The Warlord]

 

[ferball]

Have a spell Chad. This is toxic garbage.

 

[Chadwiko]

Have a spell Chad. This is toxic garbage.

LOL

I understand that taking the side of the aggressor seems to come naturally to you, but Ukraine has the right to defend itself and so do I.

You never ask TW or DR to "have a spell" when they make baseless accusations at me, but now is when you chirp up?

Telling.

 

[DesertRoo]

You're the one dodging the simple question over and over again.

Ball is in your court.

You seem like a Pauline + Clive Palmer fan.

Oh nose what should I do, the ball is in my court,

Chad you’re delusional.

 

[Chadwiko]

Oh nose what should I do, the ball is in my court,

Chad you’re delusional.

Simple question dodged yet again.

Let's play a game of "never have I ever..."

I'll start:

Never have I ever... voted for one nation, the nationals, the Liberals, Clive Palmer/UAP, libertarians, shooters+fishers, or anti-vax political candidates.

To his credit, I believe The Warlord can probably say the same.

Can you DesertRoo ? Can you ferball or Bojan KantKick ?

If you're going to accuse me of being a right winger, let's see your cards on the table. I've shown you mine and I'm not at all embarrassed about my voting record.

 

[DesertRoo]

Simple question dodged yet again.

Let's play a game of "never have I ever..."

I'll start:

Never have I ever... voted for one nation, the nationals, the Liberals, Clive Palmer/UAP, libertarians, shooters+fishers, or anti-vax political candidates.

To his credit, I believe The Warlord can probably say the same.

Can you DesertRoo ? Can you ferball or Bojan KantKick ?

If you're going to accuse me of being a right winger, let's see your cards on the table. I've shown you mine and I'm not at all embarrassed about my voting record.

Ok, we can play never have I ever supported Nazis, never ever..
Not here, not there, not anywhere in the world

 

[Chadwiko]

Ok, we can play never have I ever supported Nazis, never ever..

Happy to! I have never supported Nazis. Ukraine are not Nazis. Azov suck and even if you don't believe the many many independent reports of their reorganisation in the last few years, supporting Ukraine does not mean you unequivocally support any racist nationalists in their ranks. Newsflash; there's more Nazis in the Russian army than in Ukraine's.

Now it's your turn to answer my questions.

Or are you going to dodge them again.

 

[DesertRoo]

Happy to! I have never supported Nazis. Ukraine are not Nazis. Azov suck and even if you don't believe the many many independent reports of their reorganisation in the last few years, supporting Ukraine does not mean you unequivocally support any racist nationalists in their ranks. Newsflash; there's more Nazis in the Russian army than in Ukraine's.

Now it's your turn to answer my questions.

Or are you going to dodge them again.

What was Minsk agreements 1& 2 for?
Who was armed and who broke those agreements?

 

[Chadwiko]

What was Minsk agreements 1& 2 for?
Who was armed and who broke those agreements?

Nah you don't get to ask anymore questions until you answer the ones repeatedly put before you.

 

[DesertRoo]

Nah you don't get to ask anymore questions until you answer the ones repeatedly put before you.

Gold!

 

[Val Keating]

Ukraine has been the most online war yet, with clear information ops by NATO like the Kyiv Independent, Saint Javelin, this Pekka knob etc etc.

Now the pro-Russian types have been fighting back, especially against the Pekka dude and his doxxings.

Clearly Pekka has had assistance from intel agencies of some sort in his doxxings, now its clear the Russians have repaid the favour.

The Russians having their "own" social network in VKontakt means we don't get to see their intternal ops.

But as we saw from the 2016 US campaign, their attempts at using Westewrn social media are hamfisted and laughable, only the most childlike of idiots/fully paid up member of the security state believes that has any impact on world events

There’s an article that did the rounds, all the major news outlets and the small ones that Trump said at a fundraiser he’d bomb China & Russia, and they use a Washington post article as the source, the crazy thing is that the Washington post article doesn’t even quote Trump.

Trump Allegedly Suggested He Would Have Bombed Beijing and Moscow

In a shock to donors, the former US president is reported to have suggested he would have bombed the two capitals if they invaded Ukraine and Taiwan during his presidency.

www.kyivpost.com

Trump suggested at fundraiser he ‘would have bombed’ Russia and China

The former president’s comments came as a surprise to some donors

www.independent.co.uk

Trump tells donors at funder he 'would have bombed' China and Russia

The former president said at a fundraiser he would have bombed Moscow if Russia invaded Ukraine or bombed Beijing if China invaded Taiwan.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This is the source article and this is what was written,

‘For example, at one event, he suggested that he would have bombed Moscow and Beijing if Russia invaded Ukraine or China invaded Taiwan, surprising some of the donors.’
By tying donation requests to pledges of tax cuts and other policies, Trump is testing the boundaries of federal campaign finance laws.

source:%20Washington%20Post
https://search.app/ESNQ1UF1tWaJLWr47

You’d think there’d be a quote or a video somewhere but there isn’t

 

[bourbons]

The problem is your default position is to argue.

Haha, its a discussion forum, disagreement and debate is kinda the whole point

I can't help but notice you have again chosen to not respond to any actual argument in my post, possibly a discussion forum just isn't for you.

 

[ferball]

LOL

I understand that taking the side of the aggressor seems to come naturally to you, but Ukraine has the right to defend itself and so do I.

You never ask TW or DR to "have a spell" when they make baseless accusations at me, but now is when you chirp up?

Telling.

You're demanding someone tell you who they voted for ffs.

 

[DesertRoo]

You're demanding someone tell you who they voted for ffs.

Chad your authoritarian views are shinning through again.

 

[ferball]

Simple question dodged yet again.

Let's play a game of "never have I ever..."

I'll start:

Never have I ever... voted for one nation, the nationals, the Liberals, Clive Palmer/UAP, libertarians, shooters+fishers, or anti-vax political candidates.

To his credit, I believe The Warlord can probably say the same.

Can you DesertRoo ? Can you ferball or Bojan KantKick ?

If you're going to accuse me of being a right winger, let's see your cards on the table. I've shown you mine and I'm not at all embarrassed about my voting record.

Now you're asking me who I vote for?

You're the only person who regular posts in this thread who i can imagine authoprising the use of force against individuals on behalf of an authoritarian regime. I don't know bojan so I can't really say but I'm confident the other two wouldn't based on my dealings with them over years.

Even this post I'm quoting has the making of an excuse for the intolerant to arrange a purge.

You don't even understand this do you?

 

[DesertRoo]

Now you're asking me who I vote for?

You're the only person who regular posts in this thread who i can imagine authoprising the use of force against individuals on behalf of an authoritarian regime. I don't know bojan so I can't really say but I'm confident the other two wouldn't based on my dealings with them over years.

Even this post I'm quoting has the making of an excuse for the intolerant to arrange a purge.

You don't even understand this do you?

Chad has an honours in politics and international relations, he 100% understands what the inference is.