Play Nice The NM Devil's Chessboard Thread - Part II

[DesertRoo]

Its the second time the Ukrainians say they've sunk it, making it a doubling damaging blow.

Again, attacking submarines when you're fighting a land war (and your lines are cracking badly) is bizarre.

The OG Nazis were firing advanced weapons ion targets in Britain in 1944 and 45 when their lines were collapsing too.

This only makes sense if it’s nato attacking Russian assets from inside Ukraine.

 

[Chadwiko]

This only makes sense if it’s nato attacking Russian assets from inside Ukraine.

Nah, Russia has been using its naval forces in the black sea to strike Ukrainian land-based targets. Taking them out is totally kosher.

 

[The Warlord]

Nah, Russia has been using its naval forces in the black sea to strike Ukrainian land-based targets. Taking them out is totally kosher.

Totally they're legitimate targets and the Ukranian ability to hit them repeatedly demonstrates excellent craft.

The question is whether its a good use of their very limited resources.

Targeting the S-400s and the airfields (they scored a big hit on the fuel tanks at least) is absolutely the way they nees to be going.

 

[DesertRoo]

These riots in England are getting really really ugly.

This is england

 

[DesertRoo]

Nah, Russia has been using its naval forces in the black sea to strike Ukrainian land-based targets. Taking them out is totally kosher.

Totally legitimate targets but targeting of subs is something different entirely, requires a level of sophistication that I doubt Ukraine possess alone.

 

[Val Keating]

Trump not wanting to debate Harris because it’s on the ABC makes him look weak imo. He was willing to debate Biden on there.

 

[ferball]

This is england

That was sad and ****ed up.

 

[Chadwiko]

Trump not wanting to debate Harris because it’s on the ABC makes him look weak imo. He was willing to debate Biden on there.

 

[The Warlord]

Maybe the Brits should stop spending so much time, energy and money on sinking Russian ships in the Black Sea and more on the home front.

This looks like the north of Ireland in the 70s, or Bosnia in the 90s.

 

[The Warlord]

Elon letting scum like "Tommy Robinson" back ...

 

[Chadwiko]

Maybe the Brits should stop spending so much time, energy and money on sinking Russian ships in the Black Sea and more on the home front.

This looks like the north of Ireland in the 70s, or Bosnia in the 90s.

Can already guess you'll roll your eyes at this, but...

This social unrest and the rise of the far-right fukcwits in places like the UK is being massively and undeniably stoked by Russian disinformation campaigns and the like.

 

[The Warlord]

 

[The Warlord]

 

[DesertRoo]

Can already guess you'll roll your eyes at this, but...

This social unrest and the rise of the far-right fukcwits in places like the UK is being massively and undeniably stoked by Russian disinformation campaigns and the like.

You spelt uk media wrong..
they’re the ones who stoked this with initial reporting and they’re hiding behind Russian disinfo now.

 

[The Warlord]

Can already guess you'll roll your eyes at this, but...

This social unrest and the rise of the far-right fukcwits in places like the UK is being massively and undeniably stoked by Russian disinformation campaigns and the like.

The Russians had a far far bigger impact on the Brexit vote than they did the 2016 presidential election.

But I'm not going to roll my eyes, I'm going to call it our for what it is.

Just dumb, historically illiterate and actively damaging the current very real need to fight these scum.

Blaming "the Russians" is a cop out.

The Russians didn't deindustrialise the shitholes where this rioting is happening. The English did.

The Russians didn't create a viciously jingoistic media culture that has abused Muslims and asylum seekers for decades. The English did.

And even if they did exploit it, the Russians didn't make David Cameron call the Brexit vote.

Brexit is crucial in this because the rioters genuinely thought they were voting to ban immigration, where the scum who pushed it knew that leaving Europe would require MORE immigration from non-European countries.

As for the country of origin of the disinformation campaigns being run - the UK and US.

It was Elon letting scum like "Tommy Robinson" back on Twitter that helped this shit spread, it was the hate machine that is Facebook that generated some much of this crap.

Blaming the Russians for this is not at all helpful. The real culprits are in Westminster, Fleet Street and the Bay Area.

Not St Petersburg or Moscow.

 

[The Warlord]

You spelt uk media wrong..
they’re the ones who stoked this with initial reporting and they’re hiding behind Russian disinfo now.

They just had an election where both parties made aggressive anti-migration measures a key platform too.

 

[The Warlord]

 

[ferball]

That's letting western nazis off the hook Chad.

These networks have been in place since years before Anders Breviek shot all those kids and have been stoked by decades of anti immigration rhetoric driven by British/European versions of the likes of Tony Abbott but more by organisations like the Q Society, an Australian organisation that folded during covid. they've been around long before the troll factories in Russia are sposed to have started.

In fact the possible Russian media org that most people blame for this released a correction and apology pretty soon afterward which is more than we usually get from Murdoch's media machine.

The reason this happened is decades of priming by prominent right wing arseholes who then made just the sort of comments needed while their lackeys in Britain organised people to lead the trouble.

 

[The Warlord]

It will be interesting to see if the British courts are as harsh on the white hate mobs trying to murder people as they were often heavily black looters who stole TVs in the 2011 riots.

The English courts do tend to be quite savage on rioters regardless of race though, one of the old hangovers of their existence as rich people's institutions for keeping the joint calm for money making.

 

[ferball]

The Russians had a far far bigger impact on the Brexit vote than they did the 2016 presidential election.

But I'm not going to roll my eyes, I'm going to call it our for what it is.

Just dumb, historically illiterate and actively damaging the current very real need to fight these scum.

Blaming "the Russians" is a cop out.

The Russians didn't deindustrialise the shitholes where this rioting is happening. The English did.

The Russians didn't create a viciously jingoistic media culture that has abused Muslims and asylum seekers for decades. The English did.

And even if they did exploit it, the Russians didn't make David Cameron call the Brexit vote.

Brexit is crucial in this because the rioters genuinely thought they were voting to ban immigration, where the scum who pushed it knew that leaving Europe would require MORE immigration from non-European countries.

As for the country of origin of the disinformation campaigns being run - the UK and US.

It was Elon letting scum like "Tommy Robinson" back on Twitter that helped this shit spread, it was the hate machine that is Facebook that generated some much of this crap.

Blaming the Russians for this is not at all helpful. The real culprits are in Westminster, Fleet Street and the Bay Area.

Not St Petersburg or Moscow.

100% this.

 

[Val Keating]

This must be as close to WW3 that we’ve ever been.

 

[The Warlord]

That's letting western nazis off the hook Chad.

These networks have been in place since years before Anders Breviek shot all those kids and have been stoked by decades of anti immigration rhetoric driven by British/European versions of the likes of Tony Abbott but more by organisations like the Q Society, an Australian organisation that folded during covid. they've been around long before the troll factories in Russia are sposed to have started.

In fact the possible Russian media org that most people blame for this released a correction and apology pretty soon afterward which is more than we usually get from Murdoch's media machine.

The reason this happened is decades of priming by prominent right wing arseholes who then made just the sort of comments needed while their lackeys in Britain organised people to lead the trouble.

Australia bears far more responsibility for what's happening than Russia lol.

We've been directly guiding their politics and media for decades

 

[ferball]

Australia bears far more responsibility for what's happening than Russia lol.

We've been directly guiding the politics and media for decades

Yep, this goes back to One Nation in the 90s and before that the response to Mabo and the Native Title Act.

Mabo -> One Nation -> Children Overboard -> 9/11 -> Andrew Bolt -> Stop the Boats...

 

[Val Keating]

Can already guess you'll roll your eyes at this, but...

This social unrest and the rise of the far-right fukcwits in places like the UK is being massively and undeniably stoked by Russian disinformation campaigns and the like.

That’s funny because the right wingers are blaming it on Mossad

 

[DesertRoo]

That's letting western nazis off the hook Chad.

These networks have been in place since years before Anders Breviek shot all those kids and have been stoked by decades of anti immigration rhetoric driven by British/European versions of the likes of Tony Abbott but more by organisations like the Q Society, an Australian organisation that folded during covid. they've been around long before the troll factories in Russia are sposed to have started.

In fact the possible Russian media org that most people blame for this released a correction and apology pretty soon afterward which is more than we usually get from Murdoch's media machine.

The reason this happened is decades of priming by prominent right wing arseholes who then made just the sort of comments needed while their lackeys in Britain organised people to lead the trouble.

Could you imagine if Cronulla riots happen today, the media would have a field day.
Same old radio talking heads stirring up the same old stories, then completely wash their hands clear with Russia disinfo

Actually thinking back now, Russia had their finger prints all over Cronulla