The OFFICIAL 2011 Board Election Thread

[MaddAdam]

Just re-reading candidate statements. Amused that Will thinks we have only played in four grand finals and that Eugene is a woman (Eugena).

I'm amazed at the amount of basic spelling and grammatical mistakes (apostrophes really aren't that hard) in Caroline's LinkedIn profile but really, I'm dealing with the key issues as regards each candidate like experience, current employment role and active professional and personal networks, not crap like typos.

And I'm willing to give Caroline the benefit of the doubt and enter into the idea that someone, perhaps someone who fancies themselves as a "media player" and is running her campaign, helped her write that stuff.

Just a thought.

 

[Limerick]

The statements indicate that we have three quality candidates with valuable experience to bring to the Board. But looking at what their statements indicate they see as their focus has me ranking them is the order below. I don't know any of these candidates, so I am left to judge based on what I see in their election statements. I accept that the statement size is small but I want to see more of what they propose than what they have done.

Ms Caroline Carnegie
I am passionate and dedicated to this Club and I will work tirelessly with the Board and Executive to ensure NMFC continues to develop, with a view to securing the Club’s future at Arden St for all time.Committment to being Arden St (Melbourne) based.

Ms Julie Laycock
I believe its future success will depend on respecting the past combined with embracing the future and I hope I can continue to be part of it.

Mr Will Houghton QC
I believe interaction with the local community is very important. Strong support for the Huddle and other local connection There is still much to be done in order to achieve what every member of this Club seeks to achieve, namely, a fifth Grand Final.Motherhood statement

 

[trevagreene]

Interesting neither candidates mentioned growing Ballarat base.

 

[GarnerSmash]

Mr Will Houghton QC
I believe interaction with the local community is very important. Strong support for the Huddle and other local connection There is still much to be done in order to achieve what every member of this Club seeks to achieve, namely, a fifth Grand Final.Motherhood statement

As much a motherhood statement as Carnegies is a heart string statement?

Ms Caroline Carnegie
I am passionate and dedicated to this Club and I will work tirelessly with the Board and Executive to ensure NMFC continues to develop, with a view to securing the Club’s future at Arden St for all time.Committment to being Arden St (Melbourne) based.

I don't know any of these candidates, so I am left to judge based on what I see in their election statements. I accept that the statement size is small but I want to see more of what they propose than what they have done.

It might be difficult to get a definition of what they propose to do out of them. After all, they are running for a spot on a board, not for specific positions of power where they can make their own choices and plans of action. These nominees must offer something to the board and be able to work with the board as a whole. Instead of looking for what they plan to do perhaps as members we need to look at what they have done in their careers and then envisage how the skill sets they have can be utilised at a board level.

We should be arming ourselves with as much information about these candidates as we can before making a decision on who to vote for. We are lucky enough to have this right these days so I don't intend on allowing poorly or savvily written 250 word statements win me over. I have done a bit of research and as a member I am very pleased with the strength of all three.

 

[LT Smash]

Breaking News:

It's just come to my attention that Caroline Carnegie is known to her friends as "CAT".

Will Houghton is of course a legal EAGLE.

And here's the clincher folks... Julie Laycock, while she was working in the UK with Tesco was apparently affectionately dubbed by her fellow executives as "KANGA".

Well, I guess that seals it.

 

[Limerick]

It might be difficult to get a definition of what they propose to do out of them. After all, they are running for a spot on a board, not for specific positions of power where they can make their own choices and plans of action. These nominees must offer something to the board and be able to work with the board as a whole. Instead of looking for what they plan to do perhaps as members we need to look at what they have done in their careers and then envisage how the skill sets they have can be utilised at a board level.

We should be arming ourselves with as much information about these candidates as we can before making a decision on who to vote for. We are lucky enough to have this right these days so I don't intend on allowing poorly or savvily written 250 word statements win me over. I have done a bit of research and as a member I am very pleased with the strength of all three.

We agree that we have three quality candidates. Their 250 word statement will be a significant factor in many of the voters thinking and therefore if its poorly constructed the candidate should suffer accordingly. I too am researching these candidates but very much from a perspective as to what they will bring to the Board. Its on this basis that todate I have Houghton a creditable third.

 

[LT Smash]

We agree that we have three quality candidates. Their 250 word statement will be a significant factor in many of the voters thinking and therefore if its poorly constructed the candidate should suffer accordingly. I too am researching these candidates but very much from a perspective as to what they will bring to the Board. Its on this basis that todate I have Houghton a creditable third.

So do you have research to suggest that Houghton has dragged his heels on the board as an incumbent over the last 4 years? As the only real incumbent, he's the only one that we can absolutely determine what he has, can, and will bring to the board. So I gather you are less impressed with his past performance than you are with the potential of the other two. You must have some reason for this?

 

[RoyalBlue]

Vote 1 Kanga Laycock.

 

[GarnerSmash]

We agree that we have three quality candidates. Their 250 word statement will be a significant factor in many of the voters thinking and therefore if its poorly constructed the candidate should suffer accordingly. I too am researching these candidates but very much from a perspective as to what they will bring to the Board. Its on this basis that todate I have Houghton a creditable third.

Fair enough. We obviously rate certain attributes differently.

I gather that the Chair for the meeting will be JB. The proxy forms provide the chair with the right to vote as they see fit for that proxy. I would be curious to see the percentage of proxy votes submitted, because I think that the board as it stands would like all current members to continue, and may have opened up a pandora's box with the online voting system. The majority of those who will vote online will only go off the statements and a good, savvy statement like CC's will attract more support that a chunky, vague one like Houghton's.

It will be interesting to see how it plays out.

 

[MaddAdam]

The fact that Laycock worked with Tesco in a senior role alone should be enough for her to romp home.

Seriously, you have to lived in the UK to realise just how massively that business has grown over the last 15 years.

One in every 8 pounds spent on retail in the Uk is spent at a tesco, and it is only growing.

FFS - if she can apply even a small bit of the expertise she gained there on us, we'll be flying.

 

[LT Smash]

Tesco may well be huge but the other two companies she worked for are pretty pi$$ ant.

 

[MaddAdam]

Tesco may well be huge but the other two companies she worked for are pretty pi$$ ant.

Indeed, I've never heard of 7/11 or Red Bull.

But in all seriouslyness, her having worked at Tesco is just frigging huge.

We could not ask for a better candidate.

 

[Limerick]

So do you have research to suggest that Houghton has dragged his heels on the board as an incumbent over the last 4 years? As the only real incumbent, he's the only one that we can absolutely determine what he has, can, and will bring to the board. So I gather you are less impressed with his past performance than you are with the potential of the other two. You must have some reason for this?

I know that he has been on the Board but I don't know what he has brought to the Board. This is what I expected to see in his candidate statement.

We have three solid candidates but one is going to be unlucky. The candidates need to be of understand that they are seeking to win a position not just place their name on the list and let seniority do it for them.

 

[Kimbo]

I know that he has been on the Board but I don't know what he has brought to the Board.

Well put.

 

[THPRBI]

I couldn't agree more DawofPerception...you sure know bullshit, you're full of it.

Sitting back as an arm chair critic pontificating on Caroline Carnegie's suitability for the Board is pathetic, whilst she has had her sleeves rolled up for years slogging away (mostly unappreciated) for the valuable work she has put into the club.

Let's face it,you can't deny it, Caroline gets results. She gets things done. That what you want from a Board member - action.

She's a North person through and through.

Vote 1 Caroline Carnegie.

 

[MaddAdam]

I couldn't agree more DawofPerception...you sure know bullshit, you're full of it.

Sitting back as an arm chair critic pontificating on Caroline Carnegie's suitability for the Board is pathetic, whilst she has had her sleeves rolled up for years slogging away (mostly unappreciated) for the valuable work she has put into the club.

Let's face it,you can't deny it, Caroline gets results. She gets things done. That what you want from a Board member - action.

She's a North person through and through.

Vote 1 Caroline Carnegie.

Hi Caroline's friend or relative or whatever,

I was wondering when the first of the election season new posters would appear.

You'll note I praised Caroline's ability and record.

But if we want to get it down to brass tacks, are you honestly suggesting we should dump one of Australia's leading QCs for a senior associate at a mid ranking law firm? Why not trade Drew Petrie for a bloke from the GFL while we're at it?

And while you charmingly describe Laycock like our Prime Minister the fact is that she has far more experience in the vital area of marketing for major international companies than Caroline.

As for Caroline getting things done, she may be able to get them done at one level. Whether she can do it at board level is another. As I said, she's on the right track to be a very good board candidate when she broadens her experience and skills a bit more. As it stands, the other two, in my view have far more experience in the areas that count.

But good to see she's got her people out playing the man and not the ball.

This isn't a popularity contest. It isn't about who da Rooboyz the most, or who got the most autographs in their book as kid, or whoever flogged the most sausages at the sizzle, it is about finding individuals of the highest calibre to guide our great club to long term success and security.

As I said, there's a hell of a lot to like about Caroline and if I were a betting man, I'd happily back her to get onto the board in the medium term.

But I don't think she's ready right now, certainly not when compared to the other two candidates.

 

[THPRBI]

Thanks Daw for the feedback.

Is this a blog, or an epistle I'm reading? Who the hell are you to postulate on these issues? Your faint praise for Caroline is revealing...about you.

Let the members decide the Board positions. That was the platform on which the encumbents won a mandate. It is not a plaything for the oligarchs of Arden St.

Let's trust them for a change.

 

[MaddAdam]

Thanks Daw for the feedback.

Is this a blog, or an epistle I'm reading? Who the hell are you to postulate on these issues? Your faint praise for Caroline is revealing...about you.

Let the members decide the Board positions. That was the platform on which the encumbents won a mandate. It is not a plaything for the oligarchs of Arden St.

Let's trust them for a change.

Umm, it is an Internet forum. I realise you are new to BigFooty so you may want to re-asses your participation if you're finding it a bit challenging.

I'm not sure what to make of your final two paragraphs? The oligarchs of Arden Street?

You mean like the President of the biggest cotorie?

Me, I'm just a member, I've voted, I've chucked in for the debt reduction.

I'm not the one trying to play Charlie Big Potatoes (copyright S.Ryder) by boasting about bow I "ensured the return of over $550,000 in first-dollar contributions"

Seeing as you're obviously close to Ms Carnegie, can you clarify what that actually means.

Is she saying she personally raised over half a mil?

 

[THPRBI]

If you care to check the facts, I'm pretty sure she never claimed that she did that personally.

Mind you, it didn't happen on its own though, she did orchestrate that result through her leadership and vision.

Pretty good qualities in a potential Board member, one might have thought.

 

[MaddAdam]

If you care to check the facts, I'm pretty sure she never claimed that she did that personally.

Mind you, it didn't happen on its own though, she did orchestrate that result through her leadership and vision.

Pretty good qualities in a potential Board member, one might have thought.

I'm typing this direct from her statement as sent to me today by the club.

Since leading the incorporation of the Northerners in 2008/09 I have:

* ensured the return of over $550,000 in first-dollar contributions to NMFC

Sounds to me like she's taking credit for it.

I'm not saying Ms Carnegie is a poor candidate. If you read my posts you'll find me praising her. I just happen to think the other two candidates have more experience and are better suited to the role.

One thing though, why is it when I put Caroline Carnegie into the "people" section on Middletons site, you get this message?

http://www.middletons.com.au/people...negie&area_of_law=all&industry=all&office=all

You searched for people with first name like Caroline with surname like Carnegie in any office, any area of law any industry
There were no search results returned.

 

[gokangas]

Didn't take too long for the insults to fly. Rather predictable, sadly. Would have been nice to have a reasonable debate about the nominees. I am supporting Caroline's nomination but not because she is female or the other two candidates are bad for the club.

I believe Caroline has a lot to offer and would make an excellent board member. Her club and worklife backgrounds make her a prime candidate for mine. Add to that her passion for the club and she gets one of my votes.

Her work with the Northerners, that I have witnessed closely, is enough proof for me that she is a very capable person and I hope to see her on the board.

My few dealings with Will have been positive - have only met him a couple of times. I don't know Julie.

Facts:
My vote is not determined by her or other candidates sex - don't care.
I am not running her campaign - she is doing a much better job than I could.

 

[Only Forwards]

Nationality has nothing to do with credentials.

Lets leave the mud slinging at the last election.

Play on.

 

[The Other Dean]

Hi Caroline's friend or relative or whatever,

I was wondering when the first of the election season new posters would appear.

No love for post #137 ?

If you read my posts you'll find me praising her.

I did as you advised, but I must admit that comments like the one below didn't really seem to me to be painting a picture of praise, per se....

I'd say she reminds me of those ALP apparatchiks who only ever move job having calculated how it will help them in their dead-eyed quest for a safe seat, but that would be unfair to career-crazed lawyer types like Caroline.

Although, again, I could well be missing something.

I am not running her campaign.

True story.

P.S. 6clickableshoes

 

[Ghostwriter]

Most likely to vote for Julie and Caroline, nothing against Will though.

 

[year of the roo]

For mine, I will be voting for Laycock and Houghton because they are letting their results and credentials speak for themselves. They're not arguing with North members on here.