The OFFICIAL 2011 Board Election Thread

[Hearts to hearts]

I love the club, have attended hundreds if not thousands of games, played a lot of footy as a juniour, used to sleep in my North jumper.

Thus I think I was a better candidate for the coaching job than Brad Scott.

#logicatplayherepeople

With respect, a coach (and a CEO, and a marketing manager, and most jobs in the club) is selected on the basis that their skills and experience and vision are what the panel believes are best suited to the specific job for which they applied.

A Director is one of a number of people on a Board that oversees the entire club and all its operations, and may bring any of a wide range of relevant skills to their role. A deep knowledge of the club, its fundraising and an important segment of its supporter base is as likely to be relevant as many others, as is a professional background in sports law - as is international marketing, as is law at the most senior level.

It's possible to back your chosen candidate/s without dimininishing their opposition. #greatbignewtax

 

[Hearts to hearts]

True, we should have that expertise in the management and staff, however it is also valuable to have that expertise at board level in order to give direction to management and to identify any large proposals from management as a good or bad idea.

I agree - I was just pointing out that you can say about any candidate that what they bring to the Board could be gained for the club in other ways.

To me the main thing is that there's some expertise in the room on most different areas on which the Board has to make decisions - back to the earlier joke about lawyers, we need diversity of knowledge. In this case it seems like they all bring something the Board would find valuable.

 

[LT Smash]

Certainly the quality of candidates across the board is far higher than in previous elections and this is possibly why we have such spirited debate and nit-picking. In the past, we've had people who, with respect for their passion for the club, offered four-fifths of ****-all* in the way of expertise in any particular area of value.

I sincerely believe that none of these candidates will de-rail the club or the board in any way, and despite the snide "big boy pants" comments, there has been no indication publicly from JB or anyone else that they are not happy to work with all candidates. So that's to say, there is no need for any assumption that one of the candidates is an outsider or representative of disillusioned or alienated supporters. After all, these candidates are all privileged inner-scrotum types.






* Not all losing candidates in all recent elections offered four-fifths of ****-all to the club in my opinion. This is a generalisation and a figure of speech and should not be taken personally.

 

[Strummaster]

If the statements are anything to go by, Carnegie, Laycock, then Houghton. Comparatively, Houghton's skill and experience set seems better suited to specialist legal advice on an 'as needs' basis.

I share this view CC deserves my vote as she has been part of the fabric and having worked for our survival wont let us fail. Laycock for her skills in brand exposure and cheap labour. That leaves QC Houghton to show us his passion for the club with his love for the next 3 and have a crack at a spot

 

[MaddAdam]

Given this has become a "who loves the club most" competition, I thought I'd post this.

When Laidley was sacked I put myself forward for the coaching job. My key qualifications were:

* Have attended hundreds if not thousands of North games.

* Played lots of junior footy including winning a premiership alongside Shannon Grant (not that I'm claiming credit for that, even if I did provide the shepherd for a bloke who handpassed to Shagga to kick a goal in the decisive third quarter.)

* Used to get up at 5AM when living overseas to watch North play.

* Developed a gameplan that would have maximised scoreboard number impacts with associated brand growth success via an innovative onfield journey involving a 360 degree spectrum of business focussed kicking towards and ultimately through the goalposts at a higher rate than the opposition.

Instead I was told some Brad Scott bloke had got the job, simply on the grounds that he was far better qualified and experienced in that he had a sport science degree and had won two flags as a player and had been working at a high level in the industry ever since.

It is bullshit if you ask me.

What is the point of ostentatiously supporting North if that doesn't automatically translate into some key role in running the club.

I HAVE A TONY FUREY BADGE FROM 1983 DAMN YOU!

 

[MaddAdam]

I share this view CC deserves my vote as she has been part of the fabric and having worked for our survival wont let us fail. Laycock for her skills in brand exposure and cheap labour. That leaves QC Houghton to show us his passion for the club with his love for the next 3 and have a crack at a spot

LOL.

Passion for the club is now more important at board level than a frigging QC who has provided literally hundreds of thousands of $$$ worth of top level legal advice and insight as we've managed stuff like the transfer from shareholder to membership status, games to Hobart, negotiations with the AFL, negotiations with various levels of government over funding and more.

Do you honestly think that if we turf him off the board, he'll still just be "on call" as Kimbo suggests to provide advice?

Do people have any idea what having one of Australia's leading QC's "on call" actually costs? The reason we have him on-call now is because he's on the board.

But obviously he isn't "passionate" enough.

Why don't we just have a deal where whoever cheers the loudest at games gets a spot on the board too? There's that bloke Paddy with the tattoeed goatee. He's passionate as **** . Why don't we get him on too.

This is bizarro world shit.

Seriously, CC is on track to having all the qualifications and experience to be a great board member soon enough. Just not now. This isn't a go at her personally but if people's main reason for voting for her is her "passion" then they really need to think long and hard about how they want the club run.

 

[LT Smash]

I'd vote for Paddy. Now that he's been nominated, I'm a little frightened not to.

 

[LT Smash]

As regards, Caroline Carnegie's qualifications and experience, I don't necessarily think there's an age or rank that one needs to attain, but just on the balance of things, there's a fair argument as to whether she is better than Will Houghton or Kanga Laycock.

If it was Stephen Head and Fulvio Inserra standing for re-election, I think Caroline's candidacy would look considerably stronger, but that's just an observation of comparable skills and experience.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

At my previous employment I worked under Julie Laycock and can say with confidence that her skills, abilities and experience are exactly what our club needs. Without bias, I think she would be a fantastic addition to our board.

The other candidates I can't comment as I know little about them and would purely be gut feel.

 

[Twinkletoes]

Why don't we just have a deal where whoever cheers the loudest at games gets a spot on the board too?

VOTE 1

Dancing Dude

 

[MaddAdam]

It is funny, when I suggested making JZ captain on the grounds that he's young, talented, super passionate, I was shouted down and told he couldn't be ready, there were more experienced candidates etc.

Now I compare names from that thread to this and ...

 

[The Other Dean]

I think I just heard it neigh.

Quick, whack it again.

 

[MaddAdam]

I think I just heard it neigh.

Quick, whack it again.

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[TheBuzz]

I tend to agree with your view, and that of DoP as well.

And which of his views is that?

Wait, don't answer that, I'd like to see another 2000 word essay from DoP that expresses his views on his views.

 

[MajakHarpeWright]

I find it amazing that people are actually questioning the value of having Houghton QC on our board. It is staggering.

Forget the fact that he is a QC for a moment (a friggen QC ffs). Not only does he officially provide legal advice for the AFL to this day, he even represented them in a case against The Age in 2006. Yep, Houghton stitched up Caro's mob on behalf of the AFL.

Why is all this important? Because it shows he has genuine and serious connections to the very powerbrokers who actively tried to kill our club just four years ago (and would try again if they thought they could get away with it).

Remember back when our club wanted to merge with Fitzroy? And Fitzroy wanted it to go ahead too? Well it didn't happen. Why? Politics. Power. Who knew who and all that jazz. It's how the world works up at that level, whether you like it or not.

Right now, the suggestion that we should replace Houghton with anybody (let alone somebody without any apparent connections to the AFL heavyweights) is rather laughable IMO.

 

[RoyalBlue]

At my previous employment I worked under Julie Laycock and can say with confidence that her skills, abilities and experience are exactly what our club needs. Without bias, I think she would be a fantastic addition to our board.

The other candidates I can't comment as I know little about them and would purely be gut feel.

Best post in this entire thread.

 

[Hearts to hearts]

It is funny, when I suggested making JZ captain on the grounds that he's young, talented, super passionate, I was shouted down and told he couldn't be ready, there were more experienced candidates etc.

Now I compare names from that thread to this and ...

Ask who would be against seeing him in a leadership group instead and it would be more relevant.

All I know about any of the three is what has been made public, which is not much. As none of them are flakes, I don't like having any of them ridiculed on flimsy grounds.

 

[King Corey]

Looks like a great thread. But I can't be bothered reading 3000 pages.

So in summary:

-Your preferred candidate sucks
-My preferred candidate is better
-The incumbents are best
-New blood is best
-I know everything
-You know nothing

Cheers. **** you all.

 

[TheBuzz]

Not that there's anything wrong with that, given that since we have been provided voting rights, the following directors have been elected to the board by members: James Brayshaw, Mark Brayshaw, Ron Joseph, Trevor O'Hoy. Not one of them has appeared on Big Footy to answer questions. Meanwhile, the following candidates have made themselves available on Big Footy: Mark Perkins, John Raleigh, Dan Jordan, Dave Wheadon. Not one of them came close to being elected. So the lesson is quite simple - Big Footy is really a waste of electioneering resources for candidates. Popularity here does not equate to success in the election. It's really a waste of time. Caroline Carnegie is fighting against a trend.

You seem remarkably well informed of the past goings on at BF for a newbie.

 

[LT Smash]

Looks like a great thread. But I can't be bothered reading 3000 pages.

So in summary:

-Your preferred candidate sucks
-My preferred candidate is better
-The incumbents are best
-New blood is best
-I know everything
-You know nothing

Cheers. **** you all.

That last bit was uncalled for. Wait, no that was the one bit I agreed with. Carry on.

 

[Limerick]

Mark Perkins, John Raleigh, Dan Jordan, Dave Wheadon. Not one of them came close to being elected. So the lesson is quite simple - Big Footy is really a waste of electioneering resources for candidates. Popularity here does not equate to success in the election. It's really a waste of time. Caroline Carnegie is fighting against a trend.

A question LTS. Given that the Club never released the voting numbers for the 2007 election how can you make the statement that none of the unsuccessful candidates came close?

 

[LT Smash]

A question LTS. Given that the Club never released the voting numbers for the 2007 election how can you make the statement that none of the unsuccessful candidates came close?

I think it's a fairly safe guess that JB, Mark Brayshaw and RJ had the others pretty well covered. With due respect, again, for the passion shown by these members and supporters who put themselves out there, the general membership had little idea who they were. That election was always going to be a landslide result for the TV star, the former player and the club legend who hand delivered our first premiership in brown paper bags. By comparison, at the last election, PDR and Davo (to a lesser extent) had far more traction and awareness among the membership, yet they still only pulled a fraction of the vote from the celebrity candidates.

 

[roobear]

Best post in this entire thread.

****en oath. And King Corey's was probably 2nd best.

 

[Limerick]

I think it's a fairly safe guess that JB, Mark Brayshaw and RJ had the others pretty well covered. With due respect, again, for the passion shown by these members and supporters who put themselves out there, the general membership had little idea who they were. That election was always going to be a landslide result for the TV star, the former player and the club legend who hand delivered our first premiership in brown paper bags. By comparison, at the last election, PDR and Davo (to a lesser extent) had far more traction and awareness among the membership, yet they still only pulled a fraction of the vote from the celebrity candidates.

So your statement of "Not one of them came close to being elected." is only a "fairly safe guess" on your part. I thought for a moment you may have been dealing in facts. My mistake.

 

[Chadwiko]

I just read through this thread, and this summarises what this thread is to me;

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