Current The Strange Disappearance of Nicola Bulley - Lancashire

[Kurve]

She was on a Teams call, might have had it sitting on the bench on loudspeaker and got up for <reason> and fell in

They're steep banks in to deep water, while some are saying that coat she had on wasn't going to sink her, it looks oversized so it might billow, making it even harder to know where up is. It's a bad colour too, it's not going to stand out in the river.

 

[faible]

They're steep banks in to deep water, while some are saying that coat she had on wasn't going to sink her, it looks oversized so it might billow, making it even harder to know where up is. It's a bad colour too, it's not going to stand out in the river.

Cold water would freeze you up, along with the surprise, going in to shock and not being able to get out of the clothes to avoid drowning seems like a real possibility to me.

Even a strong swimmer would have trouble staying afloat in full winter getup.

 

[Kurve]

Even a strong swimmer would have trouble staying afloat in full winter getup.

Agree, I was helping a older lady on to a boat one time and she slipped in to the water. Nearly pulled my arm out of it's socket trying to haul her in but I knew if I let her go she was going to sink straight to the bottom and I didn't want to dive in to get her, it was very sharky. She had a big woolen coat on.

 

[utility]

Can we rule out GL? Not an ex lover?

 

[Drummond]

Glad I’ve found this thread. This case has me absolutely stumped. If she did fall in, why haven’t they found her? That expert sounded pretty certain they would’ve found her by now, but the cops are insisting it was a drowning death. This is really weird.

 

[TheJanuaryMan]

This is a really strange case. Nicola Bulley disappeared from a U.K public park, next to a river, on January 27. She was seen by multiple people who recognised her walking her dog on that morning as late as 8.50am that morning in the park. She logged into a work meeting on her mobile phone via Teams at 9am, just after she emailed her manager at work. The Teams call ended at 9.30am, however her phone was found still logged in to the meeting, on a bench in the park next to the river by a passer-by, at 9.33am.

Her dog was found - with his harness off, but next to the phone, dry and calm. Police theories point heavily to Nicola falling into the river and being swept away, but she was both a very strong swimmer and was wearing very heavy clothing. The combination of large overcoat and boots would theoretically have made her sink. Not only has very extensive searches of the river turned up nothing, there were no slip marks or disturbances in the earth consistent with someone slipping and falling. The dog being dry and calm tends to disprove that theory also.

There are two exits from the park not covered by CCTV, all other exits are. The case has completely baffled police, saying it is literally like she vanished into thin air.

Nicola Bulley: Dive team pull out as search extended

Divers say Nicola Bulley is "categorically not" in the section of river where police think she fell.

www.bbc.com

Nation consumed by mystery of missing mum Nicola Bulley as conflicting theories emerge

The 45-year-old's disappearance has gripped the UK, with no trace of the mum. Now police and search teams are clashing over where they believe she is. Find out the latest.

au.news.yahoo.com

 

[Kurve]

There are two exits from the park not covered by CCTV, all other exits are. The case has completely baffled police, saying it is literally like she vanished into thin air.

Perhaps they need to look again at homeowners CCTV near those exits, traffic cameras etc and trace vehicles.

 

[TheJanuaryMan]

My apologies to the mods - I couldn't see a thread for this - thanks for merging.

 

[Power Raid]

The combination of large overcoat and boots would theoretically have made her sink.

Having done survival at sea, you don't take your boots or overalls off when you fall into the water

You'd be surprised it makes no difference to ones ability to swim

 

[Kurve]

Having done survival at sea, you don't take your boots or overalls off when you fall into the water

You'd be surprised it makes no difference to ones ability to swim

So they say. Who'd try and swim in a great big heavy woolen coat then try and drag yourself up a steep side in it wringing wet, also counting the duck hunters who drowned in their waders.

 

[Kurve]

Having done survival at sea, you don't take your boots or overalls off when you fall into the water

Remembering, if barely it was so long ago, when I got my Bronze.

BRONZE MEDALLION - Royal Life Saving Society​

https://www.royallifesaving.com.au › pdf_file › R...

PDF

Swimming with clothing requires strength, stamina and fitness.

 

[Lockyer24]

It’s baffling.
On the surface falling in the water or suicide feels the likely scenario yet no evidence suggests this. I doubt she chose to leave therefore it may be a kidnap. If it was her routine this opens up possibilities for planning.

 

[BomberManU]

Divers now at the mouth of the river, though it sounds like they're using it as a starting point and working upriver. The specialist dive guy certainly thinks it's highly unlikely a body could make it that far. When you have a look on maps, it's a fairly long, windy journey, to the river mouth.

 

[Kurve]

Divers now at the mouth of the river, though it sounds like they're using it as a starting point and working upriver. The specialist dive guy certainly thinks it's highly unlikely a body could make it that far. When you have a look on maps, it's a fairly long, windy journey, to the river mouth.

Agree it's pretty windy which if she fell in, seems more likely she'd be caught up in debris at any of the bends under an overhang of embankment. It's only 45kms long but it seems a bit odd they're at the mouth, I'd think if she got that far, they'd be very lucky to find her at all and she's out to sea.

There's no kind way to say this but if she fell in, at nearly two weeks in the river her body will be disarticulating and the feet will fall away which in rubber sole footwear, float. We learned this by following the Melissa Caddick case. They might be hoping to spot her wellies.

 

[BomberManU]

Agree it's pretty windy which if she fell in, seems more likely she'd be caught up in debris at any of the bends under an overhang of embankment. It's only 45kms long but it seems a bit odd they're at the mouth, I'd think if she got that far, they'd be very lucky to find her at all and she's out to sea.

There's no kind way to say this but if she fell in, at nearly two weeks in the river her body will be disarticulating and the feet will fall away which in rubber sole footwear, float. We learned this by following the Melissa Caddick case. They might be hoping to spot her wellies.

A grim thought, that's for sure.

 

[TheJanuaryMan]

The window police are looking at her disappearing in, is quite small, but that is based on the Teams call, in terms of her login times.

As many of us know during the pandemic, logging into Teams on a phone can make it very easy for background noise to be picked up. I know if I had one outside, I always put it on mute to block out wind/weather/household noises.

It may mean that, while she logged in at 9, unless anyone can confirm her speaking during the call, the window of disappearance could be anything up to 33 minutes, rather than the 10 or so speculated (given the phone was found at 9.33am). Not necessarily foul play still, but gives more time for something untoward to happen.

 

[Kurve]

There was an incident with the police looking for this man.

The woman in her 30s had been running along a canal path on January 7. Around 11:25am, a man approached the woman along the canal on Barrowford Road.

Police say he attempted to chase after her and even tried to stop and grab her. A member of the public managed to help the woman.

Lone woman chased along canal path by man who tried to 'grab her'

Police would now like to speak to the man in the CCTV image in connection with the incident

www.lancs.live

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

There was an incident with the police looking for this man.

The woman in her 30s had been running along a canal path on January 7. Around 11:25am, a man approached the woman along the canal on Barrowford Road.

Police say he attempted to chase after her and even tried to stop and grab her. A member of the public managed to help the woman.

Lone woman chased along canal path by man who tried to 'grab her'

Police would now like to speak to the man in the CCTV image in connection with the incident

www.lancs.live

In the same area?

 

[Kurve]

In the same area?

Not that close in proximity, about 35kms away but in similar circumstances, time of day etc.

 

[Drummond]

Truly bizarre case. They’re still no closer to understanding what happened. Two things that I’ve heard mixed reports on. Was the phone on the ground or on the park bench? If on the bench you can imagine her being on the teams call and placing it down as no real need to hold. If on the ground, that’s a bit weird, unless it ended up there after a struggle? Or if she was holding it but dropped it as she started to fall in?

The second thing, the depth of the water where she supposedly fell in. I’ve heard reports saying it was 3 feet deep, others saying it was much deeper than that. At 3 feet surely she would’ve been able to get her heard above water, even with a coat and boots etc. I believe the police, suspecting that she had fallen in, started searching the river the same day. Surely she would’ve been found almost immediately? She can’t have drifted that far that quickly?

So much doesn’t add up. If he had fallen and went into the river, surely she screams? If I was falling rapidly into a river I’d certainly try to make myself heard. Could this have been a planned disappearance? Seems like a lot of effort, but I just don’t know. Kidnapping also a possibility but very risky given the time, whitenesses being in the vicinity, nearby CCTV. Puzzling stuff.

 

[Kurve]

The second thing, the depth of the water where she supposedly fell in. I’ve heard reports saying it was 3 feet deep, others saying it was much deeper than that. At 3 feet surely she would’ve been able to get her heard above water, even with a coat and boots etc. I believe the police, suspecting that she had fallen in, started searching the river the same day. Surely she would’ve been found almost immediately? She can’t have drifted that far that quickly?

I think it's lower in some sections because the police were in parts of the river waist deep but there's a sign near the bench that says "Deep Water" and I've seen somewhere else that where she's presumed to have gone in, it was 15 feet deep.

 

[craffles]

There’s no way she got kidnapped broad daylight in such a small time window in a very public place. It’s getting a bit outrageous that this theory is continuing to get legs and the police who have all the facts are being questioned so much with their findings.

 

[revo333]

I don't have anything to add except , no marks on the ground to suggest she fell in makes any scenario a possibility until they find her in the water.

This is truely 'disappearing without a trace'

Can't wait for the next updates.

 

[BomberManU]

There’s no way she got kidnapped broad daylight in such a small time window in a very public place. It’s getting a bit outrageous that this theory is continuing to get legs and the police who have all the facts are being questioned so much with their findings.

Isn't there some confusion now, about how big that window actually was?

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

Truly bizarre case. They’re still no closer to understanding what happened. Two things that I’ve heard mixed reports on. Was the phone on the ground or on the park bench? If on the bench you can imagine her being on the teams call and placing it down as no real need to hold. If on the ground, that’s a bit weird, unless it ended up there after a struggle? Or if she was holding it but dropped it as she started to fall in?

The second thing, the depth of the water where she supposedly fell in. I’ve heard reports saying it was 3 feet deep, others saying it was much deeper than that. At 3 feet surely she would’ve been able to get her heard above water, even with a coat and boots etc. I believe the police, suspecting that she had fallen in, started searching the river the same day. Surely she would’ve been found almost immediately? She can’t have drifted that far that quickly?

So much doesn’t add up. If he had fallen and went into the river, surely she screams? If I was falling rapidly into a river I’d certainly try to make myself heard. Could this have been a planned disappearance? Seems like a lot of effort, but I just don’t know. Kidnapping also a possibility but very risky given the time, whitenesses being in the vicinity, nearby CCTV. Puzzling stuff.

Medical episode?